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Well, it was never needed to be "confirmed" because Apple TV can output to any AirPlay speaker just like iOS can.

Oh, I agree, but a lot of folks on the internet were skeptical. I never doubted it. It's good to see something official.
 
I have lot of music in iTunes that Apple match will not have. Will it play through AirPlay? Also I have 4K Apple TV that plays movies from my network shared drive, will I be able to airplay sound to the speaker?

Doesn't iCloud storage upload music that isn't available on iTunes? I thought the only music you couldn't upload was low quality (lower than 128mbps) rips -- though you could cheat and fake a rip to look like it was high quality.
 
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At this point in time, the people who own a HomePod, but not the AppleTV is next to zero. So your point is moot.

Not moot at all.

• In a little more than a week or two there could very well be a million people who own a HomePod. Purchased to play music from their iPhones/iPad's/Macs.

• At that point, if you already own a HomePod to play the above music, why would you not consider playing sound from your AppleTV - since you already have a HomePod and are pleased with its sound quality.
 
I've only just learnt from this post, that iTunes Match functionality is built into Apple Music ive been paying for iTunes Match and Apple Music for the last 3 years. How did I miss this
 
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Not moot at all.

• In a little more than a week or two there could very well be a million people who own a HomePod. Purchased to play music from their iPhones/iPad's/Macs.

• At that point, if you already own a HomePod to play the above music, why would you not consider playing sound from your AppleTV - since you already have a HomePod and are pleased with its sound quality.

As you said, in a week. Right now, we have people with AppleTVs who very likely own a better audio SoundBar.

But we are not at that point. It's like saying, "If I had a $1Million USD, then I'd do XYZ", but I don't.
 
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Actually, yes. Don't think of any Apple product in isolation. Each product is part of a greater strategy to get people into the Apple ecosystem. This way they can sell iPhones, iPads, Macs, apps, Apple Music subscriptions, iCloud storage, etc.

Don't think so. Bluetooth is coming. It's just not ready yet.

Apple will sell a lot of additional HomePods to people who are in the Android camp - assuming the reviews are good. And then, if people like the performance of HomePod after purchasing one, they might consider an Apple iDevice in the future.
 
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Yea, the Sonos app is really bad, but for some reason it doesn’t ruin my experience. I really love my Sonos One.

Also, Sonos is letting people out of their app slowly but surely. They said they plan to have all music sources independent of their app and they have already said they’ll support AirPlay 2. They are also going to add Google Assistant to Sonos One. So for me, Sonos is the better option.

I suspect in the long term the Sonos will be the omni speaker. The app is horrible I get why it exist they did not want to pay the MFI fee to get the airplay hardware chip. But why is chrome casting not on the units. There is no casting MFI fee. So I have to wonder why they are dragging feet on pushing people into the the natives of choice. I have to say the sound quality of the one was pretty darn good for the price. I am an audiophile with some truly insane speakers in other rooms. The one is a quality caster for a bathroom / kitchen. The lack of airplay is just crippling my use case which is frankly old school I cast to it. I would love native support for voice to Apple Music. I use apple music since to me they are all the same and I was not a fan of the UI in Spotify. The dark them was just no my jam. If one day I move to that. I am sure I will cast to the home pod. I never asked Siri / Alexa to play things for me cause I suppose I am tactile in my music search I like to click around like I would pulling vinyl from my rack thinking do I want to listen to this.

So in short Sonos is amazing sound for dollar. Sonos app is horrible. Sonos with airplay 2 and chrome cast = omni speaker and huge market share killer

Apple home pod = best airplay casting speaker as it has native MFI and airplay 2 support
 
Why would you connect an AppleTV to an AirPod? It'd be best to spend a bit more and get a decent Home Theatre system. Most likely, you'd get more use out of the HomeTheatre.

I see this question fairly often, but it is missing the point a bit.

We have a number of Apple TV's around the house. Two of them are connected to pretty decent speaker systems. That is fine.

Another is in the kitchen (which has a table for dining etc). In that room we rely on the TV speakers. It is not an easy room to put a decent speaker system into for a number of reasons. It is also the room that we will be putting the HomePod I have ordered into, for just that reason.

The main use of the HomePod will be to play music, but I will certainly be looking at the option of Airplaying the Apple TV audio to it as well.

Most of these questions asking why people are thinking of using HomePod rather than buying or using a home music system are missing the point that people have different requirements in different rooms. It is possible to have all sorts of audio equipment but still have some rooms where a HomePod could be a great solution.

It reminds me of the person on this board who couldn't understand why anyone would need an Apple TV, because he just plugged his MacBook into the TV via HDMI. It just never occurred to him that other people had different uses for things than he did.
 
Why would you connect an AppleTV to an AirPod? It'd be best to spend a bit more and get a decent Home Theatre system. Most likely, you'd get more use out of the HomeTheatre.
Secondary Apple TV - e.g. in a bedroom or kitchen? This is what HomePod will do for me. So much better than the TV's own speakers and Siri for HomeKit to boot without scrabbling for the Apple TV remote - often on my partner's side of the bed or hiding itself in the folds of the duvet:D

It's unlikely HomePod would ever replace my main home cinema/HiFi system which, amongst others, has an Apple TV source and plays through a receiver with B&W floor standers for front L/R and Kef centre/surrounds. Since I'm alert and (mostly) upright when in the living room, pressing the Siri button on the Apple TV remote isn't exactly a big effort.

If (when?) AirPlay 2 makes it into a decent receiver which can then split channels, I may look at replacing the centre/surrounds with HomePods - mostly wire free 5.1 or even 7.1 would be fantastic from my pov.

Dreaming into the future even better, for me, would be an Apple TV5 which can take an optical in from the TV and Airply 2 output to a 5.1 or 7.1 HomePod based speaker system. Although I suspect the .1 would have to be a phono out to someone else's sub.
 
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As you said, in a week. Right now, we have people with AppleTVs who very likely own a better audio SoundBar.

But we are not at that point. It's like saying, "If I had a $1Million USD, then I'd do XYZ", but I don't.

I don't own a soundbar. And that's true for many others. If HomePod works as well as I think it will for my music, I'll definitely route my AppleTV through it.

I suspect many others will give that a try as well. And will likely be very happy with the result.
 
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Don't think so. Bluetooth is coming. It's just not ready yet.

Apple will sell a lot of additional HomePods to people who are in the Android camp - assuming the reviews are good. And then, if people like the performance of HomePod after purchasing one, they might consider an Apple iDevice in the future.
Where are you getting this "Bluetooth is coming"? Afaik, the HomePod already has Bluetooth and it's only reported use is for setup. Are you just making assumptions? If so, could you make that a little clearer because reading your quotes, it seems as if you're stating factual info.
 
I've only just learnt from this post, that iTunes Match functionality is built into Apple Music ive been paying for iTunes Match and Apple Music for the last 3 years. How did I miss this

It seems you aren't alone. There was a thread about the HomePod a couple of days ago where a lot of the comments were from people saying the same thing.
 
Where are you getting this "Bluetooth is coming"? Afaik, the HomePod already has Bluetooth and it's only reported use is for setup. Are you just making assumptions? If so, could you make that a little clearer because reading your quotes, it seems as if you're stating factual info.

Yes. See post #19.
 
I don't own a soundbar. And that's true for many others. If HomePod works as well as I think it will for my music, I'll definitely route my AppleTV through it.

I suspect many others will give that a try as well. And will likely be very happy with the result.

Then you'll be missing out on several things. A HomePod is not even Stereo. You need to buy 2 to have stereo and even then, the ability isn't there yet.

So you'll pay $349 for a nice mono speaker. Good job at burning money!
 
Then you'll be missing out on several things. A HomePod is not even Stereo. You need to buy 2 to have stereo and even then, the ability isn't there yet.

So you'll pay $349 for a nice mono speaker. Good job at burning money!

No need to worry about me and what I do with my money. As I said, I will already have one sitting in my living room. And many others will as well, I imagine.

It should require zero effort routing AppleTV through HomePod. I suspect it will sound just fine. If it doesn't for some reason, nothing lost.
 
It's a speaker, so of course. There are several A/V receivers out there with AirPlay capability. Hook up the A/V receiver to your TV. Set receiver to Airplay. Done.

The problem with this is lip sync issues/delay. I believe there is a second or two delay with bluetooth and AirPlay, but maybe AirPlay 2 fixes that. If these had even one input (optical, USB-C, anything) input it would have helped those of us that wanted to use them for things beyond Apple music.
 
Because if you're having a party, no one wants the music to stop when you get a phone call.

Sonos speakers don't support Bluetooth audio either.

In my experience, Bluetooth is a horrible platform for streaming audio. Disconnect issues with devices (cars, Bose and other speakers I've tried, etc), pairing BS, distance issues. I FAR prefer Wifi and leave bluetooth for close distance control/data and phone headsets.
 
All I need is audible support then I'm pretty set. Might be a while though considering Amazon's track record with supporting Apple devices.
 
I see this question fairly often, but it is missing the point a bit.

We have a number of Apple TV's around the house. Two of them are connected to pretty decent speaker systems. That is fine.

Another is in the kitchen (which has a table for dining etc). In that room we rely on the TV speakers. It is not an easy room to put a decent speaker system into for a number of reasons. It is also the room that we will be putting the HomePod I have ordered into, for just that reason.

The main use of the HomePod will be to play music, but I will certainly be looking at the option of Airplaying the Apple TV audio to it as well.

Most of these questions asking why people are thinking of using HomePod rather than buying or using a home music system are missing the point that people have different requirements in different rooms. It is possible to have all sorts of audio equipment but still have some rooms where a HomePod could be a great solution.

It reminds me of the person on this board who couldn't understand why anyone would need an Apple TV, because he just plugged his MacBook into the TV via HDMI. It just never occurred to him that other people had different uses for things than he did.

Yet, we still have solutions out there... like the Sonos promo (2 speakers for $349) that have better sound and could easily fit in a scenario like yours. They aren't big.

There are several speaker/audio vendors with good or better solutios than a HomePod.

Secondary Apple TV - e.g. in a bedroom or kitchen? This is what HomePod will do for me. So much better than the TV's own speakers and Siri for HomeKit to boot without scrabbling for the Apple TV remote - often on my partner's side of the bed or hiding itself in the folds of the duvet:D

It's unlikely HomePod would ever replace my main home cinema/HiFi system which, amongst others, has an Apple TV source and plays through a receiver with B&W floor standers for front L/R and Kef centre/surrounds. Since I'm alert and (mostly) upright when in the living room, pressing the Siri button on the Apple TV remote isn't exactly a big effort.

If (when?) AirPlay 2 makes it into a decent receiver which can then split channels, I may look at replacing the centre/surrounds with HomePods - mostly wire free 5.1 or even 7.1 would be fantastic from my pov.

Dreaming into the future even better, for me, would be an Apple TV5 which can take an optical in from the TV and Airply 2 output to a 5.1 or 7.1 HomePod based speaker system. Although I suspect the .1 would have to be a phono out to someone else's sub.

See above.
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No need to worry about me and what I do with my money. As I said, I will already have one sitting in my living room. And many others will as well, I imagine.

It should require zero effort routing AppleTV through HomePod. I suspect it will sound just fine. If it doesn't for some reason, nothing lost.

I am not worrying about you. Just arguably laughing to myself why would you spend $349 for a not so good mono-speaker that needs a secondary $349 investment to make it stereo.
 
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