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Apple Confirms HomePod's Supported Audio Sources in Tech Specs
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Macrumors article... here is the link:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...erage-led-bulb-during-music-playback.2103027/
To be honest I made a mistake. the HomePod will consume ~8W, which means we will get less than 8W audio out speaker.
What makes you think it is Sonos who are not putting it in? Maybe it is Google at this point who won't let them? The fact that we don't know and have yet to see an official statement means we are just speculating. Makes you wonder though especially since Sonos has mentioned they will be supporting Googles assistant in the future. When we do not know or might be doing it now, don't know. But it took them a year or so to incorporate Alexa.
The app is just ok, aside from a few other reasons, I use Sonopod as the app. The big reason is that I have programmed for my universal remote to return to the remote app, which prior to the Sonos app did not let you, and now that I am used to it, I haven't left it.
Bluetooth audio is old school. AirPlay/AirPlay2 are the way to go and for your Android friends, there are a dozen or so airplay apps they can download and use. Now the big question is how far will they open this up with Siri Kit for other application types? and How long will it be for AirPlay2 to showup so we can see this work the way it was designed.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes but then it's just an Airplay Speaker.
It can play ANYTHING you can play on an iDevice or Mac, but only as an Airplay Speaker, not using the "Smarts" part.
The HomePod has Bluetooth 5.0
Bluetooth 5.0
Bluetooth 5 is announced in 16 June 2016 to come in late 2016 or early 2017. Bluetooth 5 is here and with it release, developers have tried to meet the all the advanced standard of wireless world with more privacy and security. This version is the continuation of Low Energy LE. Its speed is 48MBps (double than last version). It can be connected up to distance of 300 meters or 985 feet (4 times of last version). The ISM band ranges from 2.4-2.485 GHz. One little disappointing thing for users is that it don’t have any backward compatibility with its old or previous versions. It requires new hardware which should be latest and advanced so that those devices meet the requirements of Bluetooth v5.0 to run it smoothly.
This makes HomePod ready for the future as opposed to tied to the past.
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No. However, let's take (assume) the 50% volume as the most efficient metric from wall to speaker. That means that at 100% volume you'll have 16W audio output at most.
This is done assuming the amp draw stays linear to volume.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
WHAT???? I thought Bluetooth was "the future" last year(s) when we wanted to rationalize jettisoning the headphone jack and help Apple push AirPods? Did I miss that "the future?"
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
If Apple has found a way to draw 8W or even 16W and crank out a whole lot more, can we start spinning this as a physics-breaking power plant too?
It's practically a 7.1 surround sound system to some now. I think if Apple could keep it out of our hands for about another 2 weeks or so, it could be puffed up into curing cancer, feeding the hungry and driving world peace too. Just give some of us time.
Why are you still trying to push this? It's been explained multiple times by multiple people. Apple has said that a single HomePod splits the audio into left/center/right channels...so that already ends any attempts at claiming it's a "mono" speaker. However, the design of the HomePod (seven tweeters, one woofer) means that while the high/mid range can be split into different channels, the low range cannot. That's the reason Apple uses the term "stereo pair" with two HomePods, i.e., that gives you the ability to split the low range as well.
If Apple has found a way to draw 8W or even 16W and crank out a whole lot more, can we start spinning this as a physics-breaking power plant too?
It's practically a 7.1 surround sound system to some now. I think if Apple could keep it out of our hands for about another 2 weeks or so, it could be puffed up into curing cancer, feeding the hungry and driving world peace too. Just give some of us time.
It's the other way around... I'm assuming it'll output 16W @ 100% volume with a 90% energy efficiency, which should mean ~18W power draw.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Because people like you continue to try to spin something different than what Apple says about this topic themselves. And the "multiple people" seem to keep wanting to fault the opinions of their fellow consumers while dodging conflicting with Apple's own words. In short: Apple stays technically right to explicitly write down "it takes 2" HPs for stereo but 1 HP most definitely IS stereo or more than stereo (depending on which "multiple people" are chiming in).
And I'm not claiming it's a mono speaker. It seems only those who want to spin one as stereo or more-than-stereo keep seeing challenges to those suggestions as others calling it mono. Personally, for reasons beat just about to death in other threads, I'm (personally) in the mono+ camp myself. From my own perspective, I'm subscribing to this take on this particular topic right now.
And again, if all it takes to be able to formally call it "stereo" is one more woofer, why is Apple saying it will also need a software update in their copy about "it takes two" for stereo? One will have that second woofer as soon as they buy a second HP. Is Apple wrong for saying it needs a software update too?
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Except audio is logarithmic, not linear. So double the volume would require 80W, not 16W.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes I understand. I was trying to take a poke at all of us who seem to be working overtime to puff this thing up into being a whole bunch of stuff that even Apple is not claiming it to be. Why not a power plant too? Just joking around.
Did you hear it can slice bread?
I think Google is poised to win this war. They have access to more valuable human behavior data than any company in the world and that gap is only growing. Amazon is a close second, and they were first to market, but I still see Google taking this thing "Home". An assistant is only as good as it is in being able to assist you. To assist you, it needs to know you.
no headphone jack....
not even bluetooth.
if apple wants to champion a wireless standard they should be consistent.
it should have a W1 chip built in.
#couragemyass
not even bluetooth.
if apple wants to champion a wireless standard they should be consistent.
it should have a W1 chip built in.
#couragemyass
The lack of bluetooth connectivity is really disappointing. I'm knee deep in the Apple ecosystem and I don't want one of these -- not at that price with a lack of basic features, including the failure to deliver on features promised at the Keynote. I have read that it sounds amazing, but it will sound amazing elsewhere for awhile at least.
Actually manufacturers could support Airplay if they wanted to. In fact HTC already does. I believe all the way back to a One M7 can use Airplay now. WiFi has far more bandwidth and range for quality music than Bluetooth as well.
The greater the sensitivity of the speaker, the less watts you need for high volume.