Stopgap for sure, but I bought a fully maxed-out iMac Pro 3 months after release and it is still a workhorse for me today. Does not miss a beat in a heavy-use environment!
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Apple Confirms iMac Pro Will Be Discontinued When Supplies Run Out, Recommends 27-Inch iMac
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What demands can you not anticipate 6 months in advance that can only be solved by opening the box?
Apple has basically shown their hand by confirming that these iMac Pros are going to be discontinued. At this point, I am going to assume that anyone still buying an iMac Pro with the warning message plastered on the screen is doing so with their eyes wide open, and they really can't claim ignorance when Apple subsequently discontinues the iMac Pro and announces the M1 iMacs.
This to me is the opposite of greed.
What is poignant here, is that I haven't seen a post from anyone who bought the iMac Pro for business complaining? Most of the criticism appears to come from those who never owned one or never needed to?
Apple on late Friday evening added a "while supplies last" notice to its iMac Pro product page worldwide, and removed all upgrade options for the computer, leaving only the standard configuration available to order for now.
We've since confirmed with Apple that when supplies run out, the iMac Pro will no longer be available whatsoever. Apple says the latest 27-inch iMac introduced in August is the preferred choice for the vast majority of pro iMac users, and said customers who need even more performance and expandability can choose the Mac Pro.
The latest 27-inch iMac features a 5K display with True Tone and a nano-texture glass option, up to a 10-core 10th-generation Intel Core i9 processor, up to 128GB of RAM, up to 8TB of storage, up to AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT graphics, a 10 Gigabit Ethernet option, a higher-resolution 1080p camera, improved speakers and microphones, and more.
While the Intel-based 27-inch iMac is Apple's recommendation right now, rumors suggest that a redesigned iMac with a next-generation Apple silicon chip and a design inspired by Apple's high-end Pro Display XDR will be released later this year, so many customers may want to exercise patience. It's unclear if an Apple silicon version of the iMac Pro will ever be released, but it appears unlikely at this point.
Released in December 2017, the iMac Pro received no substantial hardware refreshes over its lifetime.
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Whereas hobby computer users may aspire to all sorts of equipment, and no problem with that, there are those who NEED and can utilise specific computes primarily for specific tasks.
When I read on here PC users criticising Apple users lack of knowledge and vice versa, its rather sad, as it misses the point. In my opinion the vast majority of those who bought iMac Pro's bought them to serve a specific need, and from the replies on this board, the only real complaints come from people who never bought them?
If you didn't need one, didn't buy one, but someone else did and was happy with its performance in their business I really don't see why there is so much criticism of what is and was a really good machine for the tasks I used it for, and where it won't be consigned to the scrapheap, it will be redeployed when something that does the tasks better than the iMac Pro does. That's normal business?
I have no complaints about my iMac Pro, its performed really well.
When I see comments about depreciation, its no different to anything else you buy, it gets depreciated, but in the UK we were able to offset computer purchases in the first year anyway.
I bought within a month of it being released, and its paid for itself several times over and will continue to do so.
The main question was really do we need an iMac Pro now, and I suspect the answer is NO, or not in the form of a specifically tooled and designed standalone piece of kit.
It makes sense for Apple to streamline production to iMac's, then as each CPU/GPU or other advance comes in its easier to integrate and if they want to call it iMac Pro, so be it, but personally I'd be happier if they then just have the iMac range rather than a blasé name for what is basically the same design/engineering with the exception of performance, because the existing iMac range has different specs with no problems
People running production workloads don't overclock. Gaming is not considered a production environment. You can bet that the backend servers are not overclocked in AWS/Azure for sure... Some of us appreciate stability over CPU miscalculation issues. Would we want an engineer to have his CAD application incorrectly calculate some main load-bearing beam? No....
Intel has painted itself into the corner by holding onto x86 as long as it did, that's the reality...
Apple are a business, with responsibilities to shareholders to maximise profit. Why SHOULDN'T they want to sell these at full price?
RIP IMAC pro way over price no wonder why no one got it un less you have $5,000 this laying around burning a hole in your pocket
I picked up a secondhand one last week. Other than the Mac Pro, its the only intel-based max with 8 cores+ which I can max out and not have the fans going like a jet plane taking off. That includes the 2020 iMac and the latest 8 core 16" MacBook Pros.
Its one of the only Apple machines in recent times I can't remember owners complaining about. And for lots of us there's still things we can't do on M1 Macs... yet. No doubt the new Pro machines will be incredible, but until the software and VMs are updated to run on Apple Silicon, there's still a need for Intel Macs.
Its one of the only Apple machines in recent times I can't remember owners complaining about. And for lots of us there's still things we can't do on M1 Macs... yet. No doubt the new Pro machines will be incredible, but until the software and VMs are updated to run on Apple Silicon, there's still a need for Intel Macs.
iMac Pro owner, for 3 years now. Brought it brand new with an employee discount.
Fantastic machine for processing both still photographs and video. Glad I have this machine.
If the new iMac with the M processors can do better than the current iMac Pro in terms of both processing power and cooling, we have a lot to look forward to.
Fantastic machine for processing both still photographs and video. Glad I have this machine.
If the new iMac with the M processors can do better than the current iMac Pro in terms of both processing power and cooling, we have a lot to look forward to.
You know what’s better than having time to figure out a replacement strategy? Not having to find one. People who went with aperture had to go through the hassle of looking for an alternative and moving libraries with hundreds of thousands of photos, loosing their edits in the process. People who went with lightroom had no such trouble.
None of the examples you gave were apple failing to support their own products. Macs made in 2013 are still supported by Apple now with Big Sur, and many of them can still get hardware repairs. iPhones and iPads equally get support 5+ years after manufacture.
Just because Apple stops selling a product like the iMac Pro doesn't mean that Applecare will laugh at you and hang up when you call.
Accessories like iPod Hifi are not part of an ecosystem, they are accessories to support the devices being sold alongside them. I don't hear a huge uprising that Apple stopped selling the bumper cases for the iPhone 4, or Firewire 400 cables.
I don't quite get your point about Apple TV+ on a rant about them failing to support their own products, but obviously watching all the content in under 72 hours is impossible. That said, they knew they needed to keep people interested while they ramped up content, which is why some people are _still_ on free trials from 2019.
What would you like them to update? Intel hasn't released new Xeon-W chips. Were you expecting them to offer a Product (RED) version?
nonsense - by that time we'll be moving our hands about in the air in front of us like in the movies
Pretty sure that’s one of the major reasons why they’re moving to their own chips
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Jounis. That is sensible. I do the same in my business if a new computer brings efficiency on a specific project that will make it more financially viable than using an older system, then its business sense to change it. Even then I rarely scrap an Apple machine. They are redeployed. I've even got a working Apple Lisa in the loft but keeping that for old time's sake.
Have literally gone through the range of most Apple computers over the years, and yes on occasions have bought and then found a new Apple release that outperformed the one I had bought, but that is life, but if you've costed a new piece of kit and it performs as stated, then its a good business decision until/unless a new piece of kit will provide such extra efficiency as to make the risk/reward and profit potential compelling to change it.
That's why I don't quite understand the criticism of the iMac Pro. No one forced anyone to buy it! Those that did usually had a task in mind for the computer, and I've not heard a criticism yet from anyone who bought them suggesting they didn't do what they said they would do.
As for Apple dropping products. That's the same in any company. In some respects it pushes innovation, but rarely do Apple give up on support. Even the transition to PowerPC still had Apple supporting the products, and if you had the software you required it did the job it was meant to do and the ultimate arbiter is the buyer! The buyer chooses when to buy, Apple does not and never has forced people to.
That's a real shame. It's the only properly cooled and truly silent desktop Mac in an all-in-one form factor.
Was it not Linus Tech Tips who looked at the price when it came out and debunked this when comparing it to a comparable PC build?
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false, go on overclock.net, plenty of folks there overclock to benefit themselves in a professional transcoding and encoding workload environment. and if you are that worried about incorrect calculation, you won't be using a normal mac in the first place, chances are you will have a mac pro which is the few macs that have XEON processor which is the only cpu that can handle ECC ram. and last i checked, MAC PRO is the only one with a decent cooler attached. and no one complaints about mac pro overheating.
2ndly, you missed my point completely, no one whos on a desktop moans about intel overheating, majority of the overheating comes from laptop users. instead of beefing up it's cooler, apple choose to go with a simpler artitecture.
lastly, intel has painted itself into the corner by underestimating AMD and trying to facilitate it's own fabrication while it's competitor outsource to TSMC. x86 is not going away anytime soon cause majority by large of the industry is still heavily dependent on it. intel losing apple is not a big deal and it's stock price is a reflection of my sentiment.
If Steve Jobs hadn’t sacked and fired the Newton team we would be having no Apple today as the Newton was a lousy flop and even worse than the palm pilot, a crappy niche pocket computer with push stylus where the user had to learn the palm alphabet. Either we would still be in palm pilot calculus style computing or maybe no Apple around at all.
The emac which was a cheap plastic G4 iMac clone with an even cheaper CRT monitor was terrible for the eyes to begin with and a flop except for the poorest of education customers. Great fan and non portable heater though. Just watch out for that white plastic that prefers to turn yellow.
The Xserve, iPod Hi-Fi, Cube etc were all flawed products that Apple tried and lost interest in at some stage.
Blackberry's shares also went up for a while after the iPhone was released as well.
I will say the main risk to Intel isn't from consumers flocking to Apple and the M1, but from other PC OEMs designing and manufacturing their own integrated chip variants. There may come a time where there is no longer a market for standalone CPUs and Graphics cards because everything is now customised and built-to-order.
nonsense - by that time we'll be moving our hands about in the air in front of us like in the movies
While moving around in our flying cars most certainly.
Nobody the size of Apple starts designing something without starting to think about the target market and price. Apple didn’t sit down to design a replacement for the $1000 Thunderbolt Display and just happen to end up with a $6000, 6k, HDR monster (that didn’t even include a VESA mount). The whole 2019 Mac Pro/XDR project was a deliberate decision to abandon the mid-range and produce a “super car” that only made sense for pro users locked into a MacOS workflow.
that would be true if dell, hp, razer, etc start building their own OS, or microsoft released their own RSIC windows. i see the latter happening more than PC OEMs designing their own.