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Not surprising. The iMac Pro was always a stopgap product to bridge the gap between the 2013 trashcan Mac Pro and the current Mac Pro. It doesn’t offer the expandability of a true Pro machine and doesn’t really need to exist anymore.
It's bloody expensive too...
 
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I think people are making weird comments. The iMac Pro was a bridge product between Mac Pros but with the new M2 Macs coming, it prob was gonna get eaten alive, so instead of people saying "Why buy a iMac Pro when the (NEW M2) MacBook Pro 16" is cheaper and faster! so no need for the product. When the Mac Pro gets the M2 or whatever chip, that's the pro market.
 
It has a gorgeous display (probably better than 90% of the monitors that people are going to buy anyways), is easy to set up, takes up fairly little desk space,
Until it fails, a fate of all AIOs. Now, if Apple would just evolve away from the cramped resolutions they force from their displays to something in the 32:9, heck even slightly modern 21:9, I might look at them again.
 
The model that is being discontinued is an upgrade (10 cores) from the original base model which had 8 cores. I use the 10 core variant and it does everything I want it to do very well. Never any issues. I don’t feel the need to have the latest and greatest (except for the TBM 940 which I love and adore).
 
The only benefit this would have, is that you’d avoid the DC>AC>DC conversion.

everything else is a downside (more weight, adding batteries in an already hard to cool enclosure, telling customers to lug their iMac to a service centre because the battery needs replacing, etc)

the one upside (removing the dc>ac>dc conversions) could be achieved by using an external power brick, with a standardised DC plug on the iMac side.

DC UPS’s exist, and work amazingly well (your ac/dc conversion losses are all done using mains power, from there it’s just drawing battery power) I have one for our router/ONT. from memory it ran somewhere in the range of 8 hours until flat. It’s smaller than the router it powers - about the size of two packs of playing cards.

I’ll be getting more for our PoE camera system, once they’re back in stock.
With the exception of iMac having a larger display to drive I believe it can be accomplished with AppleSilicon. Think of it as a M1 MacBook Air/Pro with a larger display. I suspect the items that contribute to the iMac weight is the display, stand and exterior shell. House the battery in the base along with the AppleSilicon internals like a MacBook and PSU, make the display removable to accommodate various screen sizes.

What you have is an AppleSilicon iMac where the computer is housed in the base and the display can be upgraded. Need to take that iMac for repairs, no problem just take the base with you. Have a problem with the display, no worries just take the monitor with you. Want to upgrade to a larger display or a new AppleSilicon no worries swap as required. It’s revolutionary on the AIO concept that brings back a little of the G4 iMac luxolamp concept with an environmental focused product line. I believe Apple had a patent for a concept like this some years back. I hope to see it be reality. No point replacing the entire computer when the monitor is still good. This concept can be taken one step further with daisy chain two bases with either one or two displays or we can just do the MacMini things but who knows.
 
For example, they set a sky-high price tag for 31.5 inch 6k display. Due to the high price, they can't sell an iMac pro with a 30+ inch screen with a reasonable price. Ideally, they should set the price of the 6k display between 1k to 1.5k, then they will have enough space to price the iMacs.
Find me this mythical 6k monitor which retails for $1.5k.
Overall, Tim Cook is too greedy to price Apple's new product and leave no room for future product lines, which put himself in a dilemma. Sometimes he needed to step back on the price strategies, like the iPhone XR.
And sometimes, prices are what they are because that's how much they cost to design and manufacture, not to mention sales won't be as high considering they are optional accessories.
 
I wish Apple would get it together and be more consistent with their high-end Macs.
 
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What is it with Apple failing to support their own products?

The Newton is perhaps their biggest blunder. Killed off at the peak of its popularity and out of that failure, the people that worked on it jumped ship to 3Com and made the Palm. If Apple did not do this then the iPhone may have come out in 2002 instead of 2007.

The eMac was a cheaper version of the iMac that sold like hotcakes then was suddenly abandoned and discontinued.

The original coffee can Mac Pro in 2013, a dumb idea to start with due to both price and lack of expandability. They were still selling it at the original price, without any updates, five years later. This resulted in a lack of interest in it.

The Xserve was heavily used (and some are still in use today) in the server market.

The Xserve Raid was so well liked that it spawned clones to replace it.

The iPod Hi-Fi was dumb in that it was only made to work with one device.

The iSub was a great speaker, but when Apple made the change to Intel, they dropped support for it, killing it off. Otherwise, I would still be using the one I had.

The end result is that I am now hesitant to get any newly introduced Apple product until after Apple shows that they intend to support it.

I would also expect that between the price and Apple’s reputation for not supporting their own products, is the key reason why the HomePod does not sell better than it does.

AppleTV+ is failing since they made it so hard to find any video that someone may want to acquire a copy like the old iTunes store did. The end result is that anyone that gets this service can watch every Apple movie and series in about two or three days then discontinue paying for the service, like I did.

Judging by how well they are supporting the current Mac Pro (not updated since original release in 2019), I am guessing that it is heading for the same fate.
 
Your Talking A 28 Core Intel Processor made 4 Years ago!

A 28 Core Intel Current Gen, Generation 11 Processor will WASTE an APPLE ARM processor for Sure!

Let's be real here and compare Current generation Technology.
I don’t think Intel launches their 11th gen processors until later this month, and those are desktop processors (Core i). The Xeons are still a generation, if not 2, behind their desktop cousins, as far as I know.
 
That would require having a CEO who actually gave a **** about the company's products instead of a bean-counter only concerned with milking a cash-cow
Tim Cook doesn't give a **** and never will. I mean he's pushing services with Apple. I wouldn't be shocked if they start selling subscriptions for all their pro apps and such other things.
Glad I moved my Macs to Linux. I got away from the bulky planned obsolescence of macOS and the worry of if my products get discontinued I lose all software support five years later.
 
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I would have thought they'd retool it with a souped-up M2 processor. But maybe it just didn't sell that well.
I think it filled a void at a time when the old Mac Pro trash can version had failed in the market. I think the new iMacs coming out will blow it away as you suggested. And the Mac Pro that's out now is for the true video professionals anyway.
 
Upgrades are for hobbyists... Not one of my professional computers have ever been upgraded after purchase. I spec a machine, squeeze it’s useful life out of it, then spec its replacement. They fully depreciate in 3 years, there’s no reason to try and squeeze extra years out of them.
I would sometimes have to replace the computer once or twice a year with that approach. Whenever I start a new project, my demands may change, and the old specs may no longer be appropriate.
 
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I would have thought they'd retool it with a souped-up M2 processor. But maybe it just didn't sell that well.
If they're doing a redesign of the enclosure, then there wouldn't be any point of putting the M1/M2 innards inside one of these cases. So much of the engineering for the iMP was to deal with the heat issues of the CPU and GPU. Certainly the CPU won't need such measures. And at least with the M1, the GPU is part of the CPU, so ditto there too.
 
Yeah. The iMac Pro still had all the same problems at Intel processors have.
You can throw 28 cores at the thing with 256 GB of RAM, but it’s not gonna solve the problem that the processors suck.
when a $1000 MacBook Air with only four performance cores can feel more smooth and Optimized than a $5000 iMac Pro, it’s time to discontinue that sucker
the processors doesn't suck, apple's cooling sucks, intel and amd x86 chips been running in overclocked environment in the gaming world for as long as people can remember and heat is only a problem when comes to apple.
 
Looking forward to that M iMac which likely blows the iMac Pro away

We need Apple to able invent powerful GPU first. Currently, the default unknown M1 '8-core GPU' isn't able to touch any high-end AMD cards.


Judging by how well they are supporting the current Mac Pro (not updated since original release in 2019), I am guessing that it is heading for the same fate.


Tim is bean counters after all, he won't bother focusing with niche market. Only under Steve, Mac Pro from 1.1~5.1 (2010) is updated regularly each year. During transition 2010~2011, Mac Pro start lack of innovation. He also who starts "spec bumps update" like Mac Pro 2012 which is literally same like 2010 one, same like 2017 trash can Mac Pro which is only specs bump from 2013.
 
So unreal and unlike Apple to confirm plans before actually announcing new products. Apple is becoming too greedy - wanting to sell every last unit of iMac Pro AT FULL PRICE (because when new powerful Macs come out and they immediately discontinue iMac Pro (as they would have done) then those iMac Pro units will be "wasted" or at least they wouldnt be able to officially sell them at full price)
 
Here’s hoping this means the release of an M2 powered iMac/iMac Pro and/or Mac mini pro with standalone screens with the same design aesthetic as the new iMac, apple not selling a stand alone screen just seems really odd at this point, releasing these products together makes sense to me as they’re largely the same.
 
As usual, those who have the machine are happy and very happy for it and those who don't are not. However, they do not lack opinion from their own narrow viewpoint.

The it turned out that both iMac Pro AND the Mac Pro is/was a stop gap for Apple silicon Mac Pro and likely very powerful iMacs with similar of superior performance as the iMac Pro. The intel Mac Pro will survive about 4 years. 2019-2022.

With that said, it will be interesting to see Apple strategy to create high end iMac and Mac Pro. The mini Mac Pro sounds like the cube again. For iMac Pro uses that can be a good thing if Apple also provide an affordable 5k monitor.
 
"a higher-resolution 1080p FaceTime camera".. the iMac Pro also has a 1080p camera.

Other than that, the iMac wouldn't be a replacement for the iMac Pro for me. I'm using the iMac Pro with 2 external 5k displays and the iMac (even though 3 years newer) only supports one because it only has a single thunderbolt bus instead if two like the iMac Pro. That and the ability to get 16 GB of VRAM was the the main reason for me to choose an iMac Pro back in early 2018. However, now it seems the only "selling point" would be the dual TB buses.

That being said, Also run windows on my iMac Pro for playing games and I feel like the Vega 64 has been keeping up quite well in the last 3 years. (playing most games in 4k or even 5k). I'll definitely keep this machine for a while because if I get a Apple silicon iMac, I'd also need a gaming PC. (plus, when will we have an apple silicon Mac that will support 3x 5k?)
Also, don’t forget the dual-channel memory. It speeds things up in many occasions.
 
It does make me wonder if Apple has always intended for the iMac Pro to replace the Mac Pro, but walked back on their decision after seeing the backlash from the Pro community.
This is what I think happened as well.
 
Apple no longer wants Intel cpu for the imac pro either....next will be the 21.5" and after that the current 27"
 
This is what I think happened as well.
remember, on that time the trash can was the "current mac pro"
the imac pro was released in time when Apple was already working on the cheesgrader mac pro (so no, apple didnt wanted to replace the mac pro with the imac pro )
The other way around, So the imac pro was meant to be the more powerful mac until the new mac pro comes out
 
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