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Apple Confirms Infowars App Won't Be Removed From App Store
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The problem with "incite" is that it's subjective and someone who doesn't think clearly can be incited by almost anything. Like the other day Jones said about Mueller "I want him literally shot dead, metaphorically speaking." Jones later had to clarify that comment but the fact that he had to clarify it shows that it can be taken out of context. Hence it can be viewed as inciting a death threat in which some loony could potentially take that to heart and possibly act out on it.
That’s fair, but perhaps parental type control should be a toggle option. I do like some good porn
And though I do understand where you’re coming from,
I wonder how the parents of Sandyhook feel who are harassed by people because this guy claims they’re actors and were paid, SandyHook was all a hoax. Tell those people who are physically harassed and had to move 200 miles from their six-year-olds grave who was murdered that day at Sandyhook because of this guy this is ok.
There’s a line and the responsibility when your words have actual effects on others lives.
Wonder where the president stands on this channel and fake news ? Oh wait he’s too busy calling out main stream media with facts.
Good, he should go back to screaming his BS on the street corner with the rest of the nut-jobs. He is a vile human being and can go yell at the sky for all I care.
If you’re going to go there, then what do you think of Maxine Waters comments? There are things I disagree with all the time in across the world and I choose to ignore it and focus my time with things appeal to my values. To be honest I never even heard of this until yesterday, I’m just a big Apple fan and hate to see them getting into political issues like this. I just want new tech that makes my life easier.
This isn’t over “political speech”. This is outright lies and misinformation. He promotes hate and nut-job conspiracy theories that, among other things, has terrorized grieving families and an innocent pizza restaurant. The man can go f himself for all I care.
Agree with your post in general, jarman, but fellas this has nothing to do with the First amendment to the US Constitution, which states that Congress shall make no law. It doesn’t say private company platforms shall set no policy. Those who want to hear Jones’s vile, lying, self-aggrandizing, deliberately cruel, destroy-anyone-and-anything-for-the-sake-of-ratings mouth can find somewhere else to do it. If Apple & Facebook & YouTube, etc are wrong, their shareholders will let them know. And if they and a growing number of people and platforms are right, his vomitous bile will be relegated to a deservedly smaller and smaller bywater of alt-right sewage. That’s the laws of economics at work.
If he, say, publicly lies that someone “personally murdered children” that’s called slander and it’s a crime.
False. And real news outlets have the journalistic integrity to admit errors and publish corrections. Ever see that from Jones or Hannity? Course not.
You’re using a technique called false equivalency. Jones’s primary method is to present distorted and knowingly false information, as he’s admitted, and as he’s defended in the name of presenting a “character.” Even you know there’s a difference. You won’t admit it here to save face and insist on your viewpoint, but you know mainstream news outlets don’t do these things. Not the same, dangerous to consider them the same, and mustn’t be treated the same.
I mean that it's weird that they had an issue with a historical game showing the Confederate flag but not with Infowars insulting various races and religions. If they banned only Infowars or both or neither, that'd make more sense.
Its not a violation of Alex Jone
This is really the issue- their actions are not technically censorship because they are not government entities BUT they operate as market monopolies and excersise the same control over speech that a government does...
This is really the issue- their actions are not technically censorship because they are not government entities BUT they operate as market monopolies and excersise the same control over speech that a government does...
I don’t understand how the content of the app doesn’t violate the App store’s policy. I guess any Joe Schmoe out there can create an app that live streams hate speech and it’s ok?!?!?
Of course the two are completely different. One sells products on the backs of the weak and gullible the other sells false information for the sake of indoctrination.
Lol!! I just realized you’re being a forum provocateur. Well done.
I like some of the stories Jones’s covers but I don’t regularly read his website or listen to his shows. I realize he is provocative and makes news, just like every other news outlet. However I did make sure to download his app yesterday. I dislike him being censored far more than I dislike his lunacy.
I think that is horrible, just like I think it is horrible what the recent hire of the New York Times tweeted.
I think that is horrible, just like I think it is horrible what the recent hire of the New York Times tweeted.
I agree I just want to talk tech, I wish MacRumors would not even talk about removing this guy from Apple podcast.
Apple has removed podcasts before and they didn’t publish it as news. I wish they’d move this article to the political section and not on front page so I have to view this asshats message and promote him further.
1) You can't fix stupid. Stupid people need little incitement to do something wrong. There was a story today of a tourist from Florida that is in critical condition because he tapped on a window of a car in NYC, thinking it was an Uber. The driver got out, punched in in the face, the tourist hit his head on the pavement as he went down, and now isn't expected to survive.
2) People are easily held accountable for their lies: just tune them out. Their all about getting attention and the related sponsorship and cash that goes along with it.
I too detest crap like the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories or death 'jokes' about the POTUS, but I detest censorship more and I get really scared of a virtual monopoly of just a handful of companies controlling my access to news - even crap or false news.
One wonders if Apple is familiar with podcasting in general... though they nearly launched the platform (at least into popularity). There are a ton of podcasts that would have to be pulled under this loopy criteria.... especially if 'hate speech' etc. can be stretched to anything that upsets someone.
I think you have highlighted the biggest problem. People are unable to differentiate what is real news from what is opinion/entertainment. Real news websites have a dedicated section called Op-Ed where they publish opinion pieces. Alex Jones is not a news outlet. He is masquerading as one despite the fact he himself has stated that he is playing a 'character' and his show is for 'entertainment' value. He is not being censored since no one is stopping him from speaking.
That’s the most polite way i’ve seen someone call a troll, i will have to remember that
I am often perceived as such although I don't intend to be. I like being direct and sometimes I'll throw in one of those types of responses because they just seem appropriate.
I could sit there for an hour dissecting the technicalities of what I said and what you responded with etc. but that would be wasted time. Instead retaining my focus on the core issues at hand. Those issues were that 1. both are sources of new information and 2. the credibility and integrity of both sources of information are questionable. You can easily make the case that Alex Jones is admittedly a less likely source of truthful information in comparison to CNN, but it really is irrelevant. CNN don't even need to lie in order to make you, the viewer feel a certain way about an issue, they produce the stories in such a way that will get their narrative through to you. Whether it's through the exclusion of facts, the inclusion of misleading facts or simply the inclusion of lies. They also love the occasional misleading imagery to sway their viewers.
It's all the same at the end of the day: You'll get indoctrinated watching both shows.
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Yeah sorry. Just because you disagree with someone does not make them a troll.That’s the most polite way i’ve seen someone call a troll, i will have to remember that
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Well evidently not. Alex Jones couldn't give 2 shizzles about whether you believe his lies or not. CNN on the other hand do.
That implies that CNN lies, which I haven’t seen any evidence of. They may be bad at reporting, but they don’t lie and they are better than Fox.
‘Real news’ websites work opinion into their stories. They also choose what to report and what to ignore as a result of their bias. Most news is just repeating what someone else said. I don’t think that much of ‘real news’. I’d pick Jones over many others just because he is actually sometimes entertaining. I mean Dan Rather and Brian Williams were super boring when they were doing their ‘real news’ lying.
Sure Jones is acting, just like all the newscaster who use the same newscasting voice and style we all recognize.
Infowars is amazing even being from the UK i love trump and free speech, we must ban the left main stream media