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They should remove all Alex Jones podcasts and apps from the Apple Ecosystem. The world would be a better place with them gone.
 
He did not incite harassment AFAIK. Saying it "led to" something occurring is quite a stretch. People can hear any news they want and them make any number of dumb decisions based on it.
He said that people who claimed their children were murdered by the gunmen were part of an evil conspiracy and were actors. This is inherently inciting of all sorts of horrible ****, all so Alex Jones can make a buck. It's disgusting, nor is Apple under any obligation to allow his garbage on their platforms. They don't allow porn on the app store last time I checked, and that's less harmful on most levels than Alex Jones.

I'm actually offended they haven't removed this garbage from the app store as well as podcasts -- how can vile lying evil hate speech not defy the terms of the App Store, when a game was removed for a confederate flag? Give me a break.
 
This makes no sense. Hey Eddy & Phil, maybe you should talk to each other and come up with a coherent decision?
 
*just came by to see everyone say they’re quitting Apple products because of this decision*

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And the real issue no one is discussing:
https://www.huffpostbrasil.com/entry/alex-jones-first-amendment_us_5b6d9b57e4b0530743c95939
 
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US media is going China way. Suppressing other side's voice. You may agree or disagree with the opinion, but you don't remove them. It's ridiculous.


When did this become about the media? Nothing revolving around infowars is media related.
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The left is always trying to shut down things they don't like. My favorite is the public speaking engagements at public universities. What are you so afraid of? Don't download the app. The pendulum will swing back at some point and you're not going to like it.


A couple of points here. First being, this current issue isn't about the left or the right but about private companies and their rules that they have setup and the violations of those rules.

Second, if you're against this, should we assume you're also against this?
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ublicans-think-trump-should-have-authority-to

Forty-three percent of Republicans think President Trump “should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,” while only 36 percent disagreed with the statement, according to an Ipsos poll released Tuesday.
 
Different opinions do not bother me. Say what you want.

Removing content and silencing people? Now you’ve got a war. Especially when you grandstand about being inclusive of all people and opinions.

His fear mongering and lies enabled idiots to attack families of dead children by inciting violence through imaginary conspiracies to bolster sales for his swag. He can rot in whatever afterlife he believes in.
 
From what I heard, he incited crazy right wingers to harass Sandy Hook families. For that he should burn in hell, something I know his type deeply fair.
What you heard? From MSNBC or did you do any research?
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When did this become about the media? Nothing revolving around infowars is media related.
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A couple of points here. First being, this current issue isn't about the left or the right but about private companies and their rules that they have setup and the violations of those rules.

Second, if you're against this, should we assume you're also against this?
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ublicans-think-trump-should-have-authority-to

Forty-three percent of Republicans think President Trump “should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,” while only 36 percent disagreed with the statement, according to an Ipsos poll released Tuesday.
You mock that 43% number yet every liberal here wants censorship.
 
You obviously know nothing about him as this is 100% false... He questioned the main stream narrative and that should be 100% allowed.
No, he accused the parents of children that were murdered of being "crisis actors" and that they never had children and incited his followers who harassed these poor grieving families. He has shown 0 remorse for them to this day. It takes a special kind of evil person to do that. He can rot in hell.
 
The new "progressive socialists" are really showing their true colors - silencing those who they disagree with.
It's not that people disagree with him, its that what he says and does disagrees with the facts and common decency. Jones is a despicable human being and doesn't deserve the platform he already has. He should be yelling on the street corner with the other nut-jobs.
 
They should remove all Alex Jones podcasts and apps from the Apple Ecosystem. The world would be a better place with them gone.
And they should remove all Hillary Clinton media also after the crimes she’s committed and gotten away with (I’d venture to say Benghazi is equally if not worse than the Sandy Hook incident).

See the precedent you’re setting?
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What the heck is "hate speech"???
It’s a subjective concept. In other words, it should not be grounds for removing content. Anyone can claim anything is hate speech.
 
And they should remove all Hillary Clinton media also after the crimes she’s committed and gotten away with (I’d venture to say Benghazi is equally if not worse than the Sandy Hook incident).

See the precedent you’re setting?

False equivalency. Is Clinton saying things like "I want him literally shot dead, metaphorically speaking" in reference to Trump? Don't think so, it's comments like and others that that get Jones into trouble. Apple and others didnt remove his stuff because of crimes he's accused of either.


It’s a subjective concept. In other words, it should not be grounds for removing content. Anyone can claim anything is hate speech.


A lot of it can be subjective, some of it can be pretty much accepted as universal. At the end of the day the sites in question decide what is or isn't acceptable for them. By Jones using their services, he is agreeing to those terms.
 
And they should remove all Hillary Clinton media also after the crimes she’s committed and gotten away with (I’d venture to say Benghazi is equally if not worse than the Sandy Hook incident).

See the precedent you’re setting?
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It’s a subjective concept. In other words, it should not be grounds for removing content. Anyone can claim anything is hate speech.
She hasn't committed any crimes. She has been investigated by people who would love to catch her in any little thing and even they found nothing to pin on her. Also, he's a despicable human being and she isn't.
 
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Infowars is being removed for the same reason ISIS recruiting and propaganda videos are removed from platforms, there are a lot of impressionable, easily manipulated, and stupid people in the world that act on these "opinions" and do harm.
 
I find it very difficult to split hairs so finely that the podcast was hate speech but the app, which provides the same content through proxy, is not removable-worthy.
I agree and think Apple should ban the apps too. They are they helping this man slander victims of violent crime and making them targets of further violent crimes.
 
Different opinions do not bother me. Say what you want.

Removing content and silencing people? Now you’ve got a war. Especially when you grandstand about being inclusive of all people and opinions.
How about siccing his insane followers on the grieving parents of a dead toddler, who they accuse of being “crisis actors”, and harassing these poor bereaved people to the point where they need to move multiple times. Does that bother you?

Or how about inciting a shooting at a random pizza parlor with insane conspiracy theory crap that he knowingly peddles to the mentally disturbed? Does that bother you?

This world is so screwed. Thank you, Apple, for making a slight gesture to maintain human decency and stop the violence.
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YouTube, Facebook, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Sticher and LinkedIn all terminated any InfoWars or Alex Jones accounts. Twitter is the only thing he has got left that has a direct substantial following. His website, sure, but you know as well as I do that his website might as well not exist if his YouTube is shut down.
Good? That sounds like an Alex Jones problem, not an Apple problem. Stop trying to force private companies to host hateful nonsense that has demonstrably incited violence.
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(I’d venture to say Benghazi is equally if not worse than the Sandy Hook incident)..
Congrats, this is actually the worst thing I’ve read on the internet all day. Disgusting.
 
YouTube, Facebook, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Sticher and LinkedIn all terminated any InfoWars or Alex Jones accounts. Twitter is the only thing he has got left that has a direct substantial following. His website, sure, but you know as well as I do that his website might as well not exist if his YouTube is shut down.
Why are his followers that stupid that they can’t find his website? Oh wait...
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Actually there is a big legal case to be made against these corporations. Newspapers hold editorial control over what its authors post. i.e when reviewing an author's work, they may decide to alter it to fit their company's narrative. So in the event that a slanderous article is posted by a newspaper, the newspaper company is legally liable, not the author.

These social media companies have gotten around this by stating that they are neutral parties and do not hold editorial control over the content that their users post. If these social media companies are therefore found to have exercised editorial control, they can be held accountable for all posts on their platform.

It isn't as easy as you people make it out to be.
Playing lawyer on the internet rarely turns out well.
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And they should remove all Hillary Clinton media also after the crimes she’s committed and gotten away with (I’d venture to say Benghazi is equally if not worse than the Sandy Hook incident).

See the precedent you’re setting?
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It’s a subjective concept. In other words, it should not be grounds for removing content. Anyone can claim anything is hate speech.
You can think that but Republicans spent millions of dollars and years of valuable congressional time and came up with wait for it... nothing. Thinking she committed crimes and you actually having proof, then use that unproven thinking to censor someone is so American to the typical Trump supporter. Not to mention Killing kids in the USA is just like a terrorist attack in a foreign country that killed people who knew the risks? Wow.
 
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This isn’t over “political speech”. This is outright lies and misinformation. He promotes hate and nut-job conspiracy theories that, among other things, has terrorized grieving families and an innocent pizza restaurant. The man can go f himself for all I care.

It doesn’t matter if you think it’s lies and misinformation. It’s still speech. We have a first amendment to say controversial things not to talk about the weather.

I think cnn spreads a lot of lies and misinformation and a “nutjob conspiracy theory” that Russia stole the election. I guess if platforms started banning CNN videos and articles you’d be ok with it too? Same principles apply (as in some people don’t like what they had to say).

Because people have different opinions and even can’t agree on what true or not the best solution is to let everyone say what they wanna say and let the audience decide. It’s how a vibrant community should work.
 
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