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Time will tell whether or not the technical difference will actually mean a practical difference. If the glass cracks/fractures really easy then whether it "scratches" or cracks, it really makes no difference. If the design doesn't allow easy fracturing under regular use, then the use of sapphire on the lens might be a great move. I would HOPE that Apple knew what they were doing in the design phase and it won't crack under normal use, but as I said....time will tell!
 
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"Apple confirms the iPhone 7 camera lens is sapphire, and under proper testing conditions, achieves the hardness and purity results expected from sapphire."

You're testing it wrong.
 
I don’t understand the timeliness of this test. If sapphire was introduced with the iPhone 7, it would make sense to compare its performance to prior lenses but this isn’t the case. Was this test not done with earlier iPhones? I’d like to see a test comparison between models.
 
Refresher, for those curious. This is a follow up from his previous vid:

The lens does not scratch with a razor blade, meaning it's not going to scratch with keys in your pocket, or most normal objects people carry around with them that the lens might come in contact with.

It only scratches when a Mohs 6 or greater hardness is used against it (same goes for the Home button). Also if you notice, the point and area at which the lens scratches in Jerry's original vid is when he's applying the most pressure to it with Mohs 6, i.e. really digging into the lens.

Point is, the lens isn't going to scratch under normal scenarios when coming into contact with most objects.
 
Any real-world use lenses getting scratched? Like in-and-out-of-pocket scratching, or sitting the phone lens-down on a table scratching?

Serious question. All I've seen are people taking ice picks to the thing. A bit like the idiots in Best Buy, taking keys and files to the Jet Black iPhone 7 display units.

Now if Apple is using such a thin layer of sapphire (for cost concerns or optical clarity) that the lenses are susceptible to damage, whether they're scratches or fractures/shattering, I think that's a problem Apple may need to address.
 
I think it's more your interest in Apple than smartphones that is leading you to learn about all these things.

The internet probably helps a lot with this, too.
Well I'm interested in all smartphones regardless of the company. Would have never known about how wireless charging works until I looked into the GS7.
 
So you didn't watch the video then? OK...
[doublepost=1475694724][/doublepost]A cheap sapphire is still a sapphire... right? Even with carbon imperfections.

(a diamond is still a diamond too, right fellas?)
Trust me. I've watched the video and have thoroughly discussed my opinions on the matter in the huge thread in the iPhone section.
 
Refresher, for those curious. This is a follow up from his previous vid:

The lens does not scratch with a razor blade, meaning it's not going to scratch with keys in your pocket, or most normal objects people carry around with them that the lens might come in contact with.

It only scratches when a Mohs 6 or greater hardness is used against it (same goes for the Home button). Also if you notice, the point and area at which the lens scratches in Jerry's original vid is when he's applying the most pressure to it with Mohs 6, i.e. really digging into the lens.

Point is, the lens isn't going to scratch under normal scenarios when coming into contact with most objects.

I think the reason why people are asking, is because Sapphire is supposed to be rated at a Moh of 9, and only tools of 9 or 10 should be able to scratch it.

if it scratches with a Moh tool of 6, than that is also the Moh's rating of the lens, which would be considerably less than the expected 9. at 6, it's got the similar hardness to steel bar. Which, isn't that unbelievable for someone to accidentally scratch up against
 
I can promise you one thing. The second I get my hands on an older/broken iPhone, I will analyze it with the state of the art equipment I have at my disposal at work (1. Nanoindentation = proper hardness measurement, 2. XRD = x-ray diffractometry for crystallinity check). So if anyone has a spare part flying around, just message me, I can do this any day.
My hunch is, that whatever apple calls this, it isn't nearly as hard as what everybody expects when they hear SAPPHIRE and that is what truly counts!

By the way: I'm a physics PhD and I like iPhones / Apple products - but I don't like to be fooled into paying premium prices for sub-par quality. If I read sapphire I expect decent quality at the high price and not a multicrystalline 50ct piece of junk that is not hard enough to withstand all the sand particles I might throw at it!

Get this man a genuine lens cover and a go-pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Nice try.

1) His phone was already damaged.
2) He put it in his back pocket and sat on it.
3) The battery bended and unsurprisingly, got a little toasty.

I'm sure some people only read the headlines. Mind you, you cited the Sun newspaper, so I doubt they had the facts mentioned in the article.

So the phone bursting into flames when bent is no big deal? What if it bent the casing instead? Would that be even less of a big deal?
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The facts skew toward Apple fanboyism.

And this is why people think Snopes is a site conspiring against the right...
 
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This is why you don't lean on YouTube for reality. People make up all kinds of tabloid ****.
 
whatever it takes to take the attention off the exploding samsungs by the fan-droids, lol.

do you like making comments that are completely irrelevant to the discussion because it makes you feel good?

This is a conversation about Apple's camera lens being potentially susceptible to scratching, despite marketing and sales telling everyone it is Sapphire.

That's a big deal, as it's potential false advertising and to an extreme, Fraud.

does that in any way relate to Samsung's exploding battery fustercluck? no. Thats a disaster of it's own, but has NO bearing on this discussion, other than to show off how little you care to discuss the situation and just try and fanboy out for your own beloved brand.

What you have done is participate in the Logical Fallacy of "Tu quoque", or the "you too" fallacy. You attempted to engage in the conversation at hand by attacking something unrelated. You answered Criticism with Criticism, instead of defending against the criticism.

And for those who care: here's some further reading on Logical fallacies (in a pretty graphical way for us with short attention spans!), i just ask that if people are going to comment, you don't do it from fallacious position https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/



 
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Back pocket + cracked device = compromised structural integrity = potential danger

Why are you spreading this non-issue?
I couldn't agree more. If your phone is broken (and you're f***ing sitting on it), there's a good chance something might go wrong. And Li-ion batteries don't play well with being punctured or deformed. This would happen on any device with structural damage to the phone where the battery can be compromised.
 
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