What hack it was a appThis hack is quite a weak point in the security and should be rightfully blocked.
What hack it was a appThis hack is quite a weak point in the security and should be rightfully blocked.
America has make quick buck and disappear problem. Every one could have seen Beeper was gonna be shut down. It gets reported because it’s Apple. There are many instances with chatGPT, and those blockchain apps. Make a shady service, make it viral, take money and plead subscribers not to ask for a refund.Genuine question as I'm not from the US, but does America have a bullying problem?
There is no law which says you need to open your OS, research, IP to other manufacturers. If that was the case there is no incentive innovate or invest in R&D.Having an OS that isn't freely open to other manufacturers is already fundamentally anti-competitive, is it not? After all, whole point of it is to create structural barriers that insulate you from the actions of competitors.
So yes, iMessage is anti-competitive, but so is basically everything else about Apple's business.
Beeper Mini operated by intercepting the iMessage protocol using Apple's own push notification service, convincing Apple's servers it was an authentic Apple device.What hack it was a app
This makes no sense; you are describing actions that foster competition. If Samsung can’t use Apple’s operating system it means Samsung has to create a competing product. This results in more competition. Its products like Google’s Android that eliminate competition (how many mobile operating systems compete with android?).Having an OS that isn't freely open to other manufacturers is already fundamentally anti-competitive, is it not? After all, whole point of it is to create structural barriers that insulate you from the actions of competitors.
So yes, iMessage is anti-competitive, but so is basically everything else about Apple's business.
You make a good point decoupling iMessage from the Messages app. They’re not the same thing. Apple supports the standard in the Messages app. They’re not required to do any more than that (no matter how much Verge writers whine about it).Comparing a text messaging app on a smartphone to critical infrastructure like electricity is quite a take.
Let's start with the fact that physical infrastructure by its nature has limited space. Software doesn't. There's no way to have 100 different electricity providers available to every building each with their own infrastructure. You can, however, have 100 different messaging apps. You can have 1000, even. There's no limit. You're free to use iMessage. Or WhatsApp. Or Signal. Or Telegram. It's entirely your choice.
As for being a monopoly. iMessage certainly doesn't have a monopoly. Even if it did, having a monopoly isn't illegal; abusing it is. And considering that Apple allows you to delete the stock Messages app and use whatever messaging apps you want, they wouldn't be abusing their monopoly if they had one.
All of this also ignores that "iMessage" doesn't need to be cross-platform or open; the Messages app does and is because it supports SMS and soon RCS. You only need one standard that everyone supports as a baseline, which is SMS/RCS. As long as you have that, anyone can message anyone on any platform. Any other service like iMessage or WhatsApp is just an optional extra that people can use or not and those don't need to be interoperable. Just like how you have a standard government postal service that anyone can use and delivers everywhere, but you can also use FedEx or some other service if you choose. FedEx doesn't have to deliver everywhere.
Big time, it's everywhere.Genuine question as I'm not from the US, but does America have a bullying problem?
Obviously they do have the right to close off their services for non-Apple devices. But as a result, iMessage is a huge failure in most countries outside the US. They did make the huge strategic error back in the day not to open iMessage and Facetime up to the world. Having the largest global messaging platform could also have counted for something. Could easily outweigh the server costs. But it's too little, too late."Anticompetitive" in what way? Apple built and maintains a service that costs them money. They pay for it by selling other products and services. Have these clowns offered to pay Apple for the use of their servers? (That's not even getting into the security issues.)
Messaging apps don’t really generate any money. Selling more iPhones does. You can see why Apple took the approach they did.Obviously they do have the right to close off their services for non-Apple devices. But as a result, iMessage is a huge failure in most countries outside the US. They did make the huge strategic error back in the day not to open iMessage and Facetime up to the world. Having the largest global messaging platform could also have counted for something. Could easily outweigh the server costs. But it's too little, too late.
Aww, this is cute. I remember when people regurgitated nonsense like this after Epic's stunt.My understanding is that a big part of this Beeper project was to get Apple to do exactly what they did - as preparation for the incoming antitrust suit. It was a trap, and Apple stepped right in it.
The EU is going to have fun with this.
And Apple will lose, and Apple will deserve it.
Beeper hasn't taken a single person's money with Beeper Mini. It had a 7 day trial.America has make quick buck and disappear problem. Every one could have seen Beeper was gonna be shut down. It gets reported because it’s Apple. There are many instances with chatGPT, and those blockchain apps. Make a shady service, make it viral, take money and plead subscribers not to ask for a refund.
Tbf sideloading is coming within a year.Aww, this is cute. I remember when people regurgitated nonsense like this after Epic's stunt.
Anyway, I hope the Beeper guys team of with the Psystar and Palm guys to figure something out that Apple definitely can't close.
The plan was to monetize, and make money. It isn’t the only one to be shutdown. I remember Vanced ad block on YouTube existed for years. The developer decided to sell Vanced NFT to monetize. Google shut it down days after the announcement. People focus on Apple but this is nothing new. There are many of these hacks in AI/chatGPT space that get shut down or made irrelevant by Open AI and others. If you gonna rely on a hack or work around to access a third party ApI or service, you are at the mercy of the third party.Beeper hasn't taken a single person's money with Beeper Mini. It had a 7 day trial.
WhatsApp exchanges 100 billion messages daily and generated revenue of $906 million in 2022.Messaging apps don’t really generate any money. Selling more iPhones does. You can see why Apple took the approach they did.
Yep, like apple stepped into Epics trap and fell for it: hook line and sinker. And how did that end up for Epic?My understanding is that a big part of this Beeper project was to get Apple to do exactly what they did - as preparation for the incoming antitrust suit. It was a trap, and Apple stepped right in it.
The EU is going to have fun with this.
And Apple will lose, and Apple will deserve it.
Apple hardware and services are still the main money makers for apple.WhatsApp exchanges 100 billion messages daily and generated revenue of $906 million in 2022.
Yeah but Apple makes considerably more than that selling iPhones.WhatsApp exchanges 100 billion messages daily and generated revenue of $906 million in 2022.
WhatsApp is free, if you've got android buddies.I just want interoperability and privacy. It's mad that it costs me £0.60 each time I send a photo to an Android buddy using MMS.
Really think “it” should be lowercaseApple Confirms It Shut Down iMessage for Android App Beeper Mini
correct.Following your logic, would it be ok then for an external party to hack into the Signal or WhatsApp messaging system and make a business out of that by selling that service? Genuinely asking.
No, it's not "their own fault". Apple not offering an API isn't a license for anyone to hack together a workaround and then make money off of it.
Great info here. This solves the problem.WhatsApp is free, if you've got android buddies.
iMessage is for real Apple users