Thanks man. You probably know more about this than me, and you seem like you know what you are talking about so I really respect that. I honestly wish I had not even gotten into that pointless argument. Sometimes it is impossible to make some people understand things, and I wasted my time with him.Thanks but I’m hardly an expert on CPU design. And I wouldn’t want to get into an argument with someone who is
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Apple Confirms 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre' Vulnerabilities Impact All Macs and iOS Devices, Some Fixes Already Released [Updated]
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This is insanity. You wrote:
I pointed out they don’t design the products in and then you said you meant they designed the chips, not products.
That’s four times you said that TSMC and Samsung design apple’s chips.
Then you wrote:
“Okay here it goes. One last time. I know that TSMC and Samsung do not DESIGN the PROCESSORS but ratherMANUFACTURE them. Like I said, if they know how to manufacture them, they know what is going on with them.”
And you are saying I dont understand things? Is this some sort of joke?
You are, of course, absolutely correct. Felt good putting all the inconsistent statements in one place for late arrivals, though.Let it go; you'll be much better off.
By design I meant MANUFACTURE them. I cannot believe that you are being so picky with every single word I say. When I said products you knew I meant processors. I haven't been getting on you about all of your grammar mistakes. If I had known this was a grammar class then I would have been more careful.
How are people here supposed to know what YOU mean, when you aren't even being clear with your own wording? That isn't our fault that we don't understand you, but rather your fault on not being more precise with your wording.
You are expecting everyone else to read your mind to understand what you mean; something outlandish at that.
BL.
To be fair, that wasn’t exactly clear from your statements. Design and manufacturing of anything are two separate, distinct processes.
Let’s put this one to bed.
Yes, I know you meant processors. And that was why I repeated that they don’t design processors.
I was supposed to guess that when you say “design” you mean “manufacture?” When you never once said that even in response to me explaining over and over again that Apple Does the design and TSMC the manufacture? Instead of saying “sorry. I meant manufacture” you instead very clearly said “nope. TSMC does the design.” And I was supposed to figure out that you didn’t mean what you very clearly said, but meant the complete opposite? I’m being picky when I take you at your word, respond, and then you repeatedly respond to me doubling down on the exact meaning I took from what you wrote?
I don't think anyone can understand what we are talking about because it has gotten so off topic. I do apologize if I have been unclear with my choice of words. I hope now what I have said makes sense and is comprehendible.
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This argument has become pointless. We both agree, yet we are still fighting. I apologize for any confusion my wording may have caused. I did not intend or desire a discussion of this nature or length. I don't want to make any enemies with anyone, so again I apologize for any confusion my wording may have caused.
Any information released? Yosemite? Can Apple deign to provide information to those of us peons on older versions of MacOS?
Update: OK, I just found out Mac OS Yosemite has been unsupported sice September 2017, I gather Apple does not send a notification to your computer alerting of such?
I made the incorrect assumption Yosemite would at least have 5 years of support. Real world implications? Does this mean it is now open season for malware creators to target Yosemite?
I was holding off on upgrading the OS because it would mean needing to purchase new versions of certain software, I guess I now have no choice.
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The main problem here is that companies have succeeded in their quest for changing who controls the computer, and, in other words, who really owns it. In the past, the computer was yours, and you decided what to do with it, and when/if to update (the Mac was one of the best examples of "my computer under my control").
Today, the World wants that the computer isn't yours anymore. Like if you must apply any patches even if you don't want to. Like if you are against the society, an offsider, a public enemy, if you don't obey.
Personally, I'm going to do my best so that my Macs are not patched (as I cannot sacrifice even a 1% of performance, and I don't have any security-risk from the data I have in my computers), but, of course, I take it for granted that it's not going to be easy to keep my Macs unpatched (except my Snow Leopard MacBook Air... the best Mac I have right now, as it's the one Apple controls less and I "own it more than Apple does").
Today, the World wants that the computer isn't yours anymore. Like if you must apply any patches even if you don't want to. Like if you are against the society, an offsider, a public enemy, if you don't obey.
Personally, I'm going to do my best so that my Macs are not patched (as I cannot sacrifice even a 1% of performance, and I don't have any security-risk from the data I have in my computers), but, of course, I take it for granted that it's not going to be easy to keep my Macs unpatched (except my Snow Leopard MacBook Air... the best Mac I have right now, as it's the one Apple controls less and I "own it more than Apple does").
Thanks for leaving your machine unpatched. I am looking forward to stealing your passwords and social security number the next time you happen to go to a website where I’ve bought a JavaScript-based “ad.”
No problem, you're welcome. You won't find any passwords in my Macs, because I never have any security-risk data in any machine connected to the Internet. Oh, and I don't use any social media network, so, yes, I prefer to keep meltdown and spectre, for that extra bit of performance. I know you consider me anti-social for not jumping into the "my life belongs to a device" bandwagon, but, the Mac, in its origins, were targeted to people who didn't like bandwagons nor depending on big corporations.Thanks for leaving your machine unpatched. I am looking forward to stealing your passwords and social security number the next time you happen to go to a website where I’ve bought a JavaScript-based “ad.”
Well at least I can always co-opt your machine for my bot net.
Apple today confirmed that it has addressed the recent "Meltdown" vulnerability in previously released iOS 11.2, macOS 10.13.2, and tvOS 11.2 updates, with additional fixes coming to Safari in the near future to defend against the "Spectre" vulnerability.
However, it's good that these NSA backdoors are finally being discovered and closed.
No, not even that. I don't have any passwords, no security-risk information, no social network accounts,... and no permanent Internet connection either: I switch off Airport whenever I quit Safari (and I never connect through ethernet cable). Sorry to disappoint your "bot net", but I never liked how Internet works, so my doors are not wide open to Internet. I selectively turn Internet on when really need to look for something, and then switch it off again.
So with update 3 of this article...no fixes to Sierra? *Sigh*
I cannot upgrade to High Sierra as I have a spinner drive which still seems like a no-no due to AFSS?
I cannot upgrade to High Sierra as I have a spinner drive which still seems like a no-no due to AFSS?
You can upgrade to High Sierra. The disk's format just won't be changed.
You’ve got to be kidding.
You use words incorrectly, then deny using them, then and get mad when people don’t understand?
The fault is entirely yours. If you meant manufacture you should have said manufacture, but you repeatedly said design. This isn’t a typo or grammar thing. It’s just blatant misuse of the words.
TekAdvice: You are one of those people who can never admit a mistake and therefore have no intellectual integrity. Best thing you can do is admit error without dissembling and beg a thousand pardons from everyone here.
Well at least I can steal your buggy whip when you’re not looking.
Atv 3 shouldn’t be a problem since you can’t load problematic apps on it or use it to surf the web.
All this is causing confusion with my elderly friend who uses a MBP 2008. He wants me to fix his computer so it's not vulnerable. I told him Apple may force him to buy another computer in order to be secure. He is running El Capitan so that has some of the fixes.