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Apple Confirms Plans to Disable Law Enforcement Access to iPhone via Tools Like GrayKey Box
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It's about time. They shouldn't even wait one hour, the thing should be instant from the moment the iPhone is locked. If I truly want to use a USB accessory I can unlock the phone before connecting it.
Wow! Forgot about the Patriot Act, have you?
The hatred for President Obama is astounding!
Our personal information is being harvested, bought, and sold by corporations all day every day, with virtually no control or recourse on our part. Yet the real concern is the cops getting their hands on our phones.
And that's life where we live in Irony City.
And that's life where we live in Irony City.
Okaaaayyyyy...
Now how does this work if the phone is locked it requires iTunes to fix an issue?
Does this also lock us out of iTunes?
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One is attempting to algorythmize you while the other is attempting to incarcerate you.
Yep.. Same.. Not..
Now how does this work if the phone is locked it requires iTunes to fix an issue?
Does this also lock us out of iTunes?
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One is attempting to algorythmize you while the other is attempting to incarcerate you.
Yep.. Same.. Not..
I go back and fourth on this one. If there’s a back door somebody will most certainly find out about it and use it for maliscious purposes. On the other hand if law enforcement has a legitimate warrant what do we do if there is information on the device that could save innocent lives like evidence that puts a serial killer away or stops a terrorist attack?
At the end of the day I keep coming back to this quote by Benjamin Franklin:
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
If you’ve got somebody who uses a complex pin to unlock their phone and they have neither Touch ID nor Face ID enabled and have also turned off backups to iCloud or to a PC or Mac that data should remain encrypted unless there are bugs that allow law enforcement in. To me that’s fair game if there’s a warrant. At the end of day you can’t compel a suspect or accused criminal to testify against themselves. That’s a huge violation of the 5th amendment.
I’m not willing to give up my liberty for additional security. You’re taking a calculated risk every time you leave your house. Let’s face it, you’re even talking a calculated risk by staying inside. Stuff happens. That’s life. Once we as a society willing give up our rights to the government it becomes awfully hard to get them back.
At the end of the day I keep coming back to this quote by Benjamin Franklin:
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
If you’ve got somebody who uses a complex pin to unlock their phone and they have neither Touch ID nor Face ID enabled and have also turned off backups to iCloud or to a PC or Mac that data should remain encrypted unless there are bugs that allow law enforcement in. To me that’s fair game if there’s a warrant. At the end of day you can’t compel a suspect or accused criminal to testify against themselves. That’s a huge violation of the 5th amendment.
I’m not willing to give up my liberty for additional security. You’re taking a calculated risk every time you leave your house. Let’s face it, you’re even talking a calculated risk by staying inside. Stuff happens. That’s life. Once we as a society willing give up our rights to the government it becomes awfully hard to get them back.
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Sounds good, but it might be even nicer to make it a user-definable time period. If I’m at home and physically syncing or backing up/restoring to a computer then I might want to set it to an hour or more, but otherwise I think instantly locking the lightning port's data connections (or even just disabling them completely) would be a good option to have.
They are doing a lot more than that, whether you choose to know it or not. But you have reason to think someone is trying to incarcerate you? Never crosses my mind.
Yep, in Irony City we stroll blithely across a busy freeway, while we worry about being hit by a meteor.
Hopefully Apple made it “smart enough” to determine you’ve started it syncing, let it finish.
Or they’ll also use this as a way to sell more iCloud storage
If LEO is attempting to brute into my device, the assumption is not for your well being.
I like this idea though I’d prefer that the time could be user-configurable. It raises the question about other devices like laptops (both Mac and Windows): can anyone access your data on those by means of a USB hack like greybox? Smart money says yes - I’d like to see this anti-intrusion measure used for those as well.
I’m old enough to remember the Patriot Act happened under Bush 43, and learned enough to know it goes back way further, all the way to the House Unamerican Activities nonsense and beyond. To try to blame Obama is complete and utter nonsense.
I feel like with Android you’re signing up for sharing with law enforcement, advertisers, Google, international governments, extra terrestrials, etc.
Heheh, sure...
... you’re probably right, it was just as an example really, there’s lots of different situations you might want longer than an hour in one situation and less than an hour in another, that was what I was getting at. But this is still progress.I don’t care who’s fault it is. This data mining crap needs to stop. Apple seems to be more on top of it than any other company so let’s hope they kill that grey box.
I'm all for security, but thinking it through, how do you unbrick a bricked device if you can't plug it in, a trip to the 
store?
store?
We need access to everyone’s iPhone because of the children!
The children card was played. As expected.
B-but, b..but, with Android I save so much money and can configure/modify my device and OS. I don't want to pay Apple Tax! Apple is too strict and unyielding with their products. How else will Alexa help so precisely?
How many people have modified their smartphones, hardware or software? Or even made changes to their computer - laptop or desktop?
People on social media, especially Facebook, don't know how much they are giving away so easily, not just privacy, but how their future is guided/manipulated!
This is a sarcastic post! At least one reply misunderstood the context and poked me.
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This is just a roadblock....
The fact NSA gets in via the backdoor, and so can law enforcement if they choose to is noting Apple can do to proven that, since Apple must comply with data in the cloud.
With so much backup-ed, it doesn't matter much about this feature, as it only prevents "direct" access.
Everyone may use their phones, but some people like me would turn this feature "off" because i go more than a few hours a day and phone is locked... I don't use it all the time.
Apple can keep saying they comply with the law, but only if its a service, not on the phone.. You can't keep saying that while introducing stuff to prevent the same.
Would an iPhone just spontaneously brick itself *after a hour* ? .. If an iPhone would brick, it would be unusable straight after something has been done.
The fact NSA gets in via the backdoor, and so can law enforcement if they choose to is noting Apple can do to proven that, since Apple must comply with data in the cloud.
With so much backup-ed, it doesn't matter much about this feature, as it only prevents "direct" access.
Everyone may use their phones, but some people like me would turn this feature "off" because i go more than a few hours a day and phone is locked... I don't use it all the time.
Apple can keep saying they comply with the law, but only if its a service, not on the phone.. You can't keep saying that while introducing stuff to prevent the same.
I'm all for security, but thinking it through, how do you unbrick a bricked device if you can't plug it in, a trip to the
Would an iPhone just spontaneously brick itself *after a hour* ? .. If an iPhone would brick, it would be unusable straight after something has been done.
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Can't you just unlock it with your password as usual before plugging in the USB cord?
Ya, but that's another thing i "Must" now do. Just an annoyance... even if it IS for security..
Actually, it won't affect charging will it, so crisis averted
Don't assume. Rhonindk actually may be committing crimes. If so, his concern is very reasonable.