Never understood why people feel the need to box others into their own situation. What if someone wants a laptop with a retina display that weighs a pound and a half less, and is thinner?
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Apple Confirms Retina MacBook Build-to-Order Pricing for 1.3 GHz Processor
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Never understood why people feel the need to box others into their own situation. What if someone wants a laptop with a retina display that weighs a pound and a half less, and is thinner?
No, power users will and should buy a Macbook Pro. If they need more than 8 GB, multiple ports and other needs.
Why is all of this so hard for so many to figure out? The new Macbook will ultimately cannibalize the Macbook Air. The Macbook Pro will eventually be slimmed down as well, adding Force Touch is just the start.
But then at that point, you pretty much have the Retina MacBook Pro. My point is that your theoretical Retina MacBook Air with a 15W processor won't really be that much lighter, if at all, than the current MacBook Air.
The MacBook design will likely be the base design in the future. Technology isn't there yet, so it is priced as a niche device. Look at the HP Elitebook 1020, which uses the same processor as the new MacBook, and is priced similarly.
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33% in 4 years isn't all that much. And you aren't likely to notice it when you are running Mail, Safari, Photos, etc.
Potentially interesting in concept, but it doesn't run OSX, which is my number one requirement. My business (and personal life) has a complete Apple ecosystem, at this point.
The MBA does not have a retina screen. Buying the Macbook is the only possibility if you want a very small, light computer with a great screen.
I remember watching live as Steve Jobs introduced the iPad.
"Something between a laptop and an iPhone. But not a netbook. Because what's a netbook? It's just a cheap laptop."
Introducing the Retina MacBook - an expensive cheap laptop.
"Something between a laptop and an iPhone. But not a netbook. Because what's a netbook? It's just a cheap laptop."
Introducing the Retina MacBook - an expensive cheap laptop.
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So you are willing to sacrifice a better CPU and GPU, ports, SD card slot, HD webcam and a larger display for just a retina display and then pay an extra $350 at minimum to do it? Your money but wow
HobeSoundDarryl
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It only has to be even the tiniest bit lighter to be able to be marketed as "lightest". It only has to be even the tiniest bit thinner to be able to be marketed as "thinnest". And the difference between the MB we have now and this hypothetical one should create plenty of space for added battery and/or modestly more CPU board space.
And who said it could only be that 15W processor? Has Intel never made something special for Apple? How about a special version of the chips used in this MB that brings a little more power to better justify the price OR a lower price to justify the (relative) power.
And more weight and a bigger size.
It costs to get a small and light computer.
Looks like you're stuck paying $1300+ for a web browsing and email machine then.
So you are willing to sacrifice a better CPU and GPU, ports, SD card slot, HD webcam and a larger display for just a retina display and then pay an extra $350 at minimum to do it? Your money but wow
I am. I bought and returned an 11" MBA a few months back. The webcam is the main thing that bothers me a bit, but I still have my phone and iPad for that.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes it costs a lot. More money. No standard ports (so more money for adapters until everything else adapts to USB 3-C). Relatively weak horsepower. A big downgrade in the FaceTime camera. Etc.
But it is "thinnest & lightest" so nothing else should matter.
The only "special" processor Intel has ever made for Apple that we know of was the "special" processor in the original MacBook Air that throttled down most of the time because it overheated. Apple has certainly influenced the design of Intel chips, but they are standard chips available to anyone. There likely isn't that much benefit to a 10W design, which if anything would simply be a 15W chip powered down to 10W. To operate at more than 5W probably would require adding back a fan. And I don't care about whether it's the "thinnest Mac ever" by a technicality. There's an appreciable difference between something that's 2 lbs and something that's 2.5 lbs.
The $199 iPod Touch that came out two and a half years ago has a better quality webcam then the new $1300 MacBook. Just let that sink in for a minute.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I appreciate that you feel that way. I don't. If I didn't already own this rMBP that weighs more than 2.5lbs, I'd choose that rMBP again with both options priced as they are. If I could feel .5 lbs in my day-to-day travels, I'd just jettison .5 lbs of other stuff in the bag. If I went with this MB, I'd have to have adapters, so I couldn't save the whole .5lbs anyway.
I'm buying one...
I want the thinnest, lightest, FULL OS X machine that I can buy. The Macbook Pros are too heavy, and the Air is not retina. This is an easy decision for me.
I want the thinnest, lightest, FULL OS X machine that I can buy. The Macbook Pros are too heavy, and the Air is not retina. This is an easy decision for me.
That's not even close to being true. Quickbooks, Office, Filemaker, iPhoto, etc., will all run fine on the Macbook, and light use of more intensive programs will be fine, too. This isn't a netbook from 7 years ago.
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Yep, worst thing about the new Macbook, IMO. Fortunately, I have other devices for that that I'd use more often, anyways. My 15" rMBP has a nice camera, but I still usually just use my iPhone or iPad for FaceTime.
I have an 27" iMac, a 13" rMBP and a 11" MBA. This new Macbook will replace the MBA as a traveler computer. You don´t only have one Mac notebook.
It's a chipset limitation. That particular memory controller chipset only supports 8GB (the Airs use the same, which is why they also do not support >8gb).
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I have a 27" iMac, a 15" rMBP and a iPad mini. When I travel, it's for business and I almost always need to use the standardized ports on that rMBP. If my travels were not for work, I could probably get by just fine with that iPad mini. I don't need to buy a 12" second laptop to fill some conceptual gap for my own needs.
I'm happy for you though and happy for Apple that there are people like you who can find personal utility for a 13" and 11" Apple laptop such that they can add a 12" Apple laptop too. I'm glad you'll get whatever you want to get out of it.
I have not intended to talk someone like you out of buying anything you want by my contributions to this thread. I've simply offered that I don't see the fit for my own needs.
Exactly. My personal office has 3 Macs in it networked to perform various tasks (I work in TV,) and the Macbook will just be an extension.
Some of us are in the market to own a single computer that does everything, and others have businesses that use multiple computers. The new Macbook kind of addresses the ends of the spectrum: those who do computing without the need for tons of power, and those who have multiple computers who want a super portable extension to their system.
You know Apple fans are spoiled when they think a 3.4 pound laptop is "heavy" lol
That's what people said about 4.5 lb notebooks when the original 3 lb MacBook Air was released.
We're not starting this again, are we?
Trying to argue that most people won't be able to do all or most of what most people do on a computer on this computer is pure foolishness.