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Apple Considering 4.7" and 5.7" Screens for 2014 iPhone Models, iPhone 5S and Low-Cost iPhone Due in September
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Another trend I have also noticed which transcends any particular mobile platform, is that people are holding on to their smartphones much longer these days. Even as technology advances, the user experience has all but stayed the same. And many people myself included might not find the need to upgrade as often, as the user experience stays relatively unchanged from 1 iPhone(or Galaxy S) to the next.
What?!?!?! No 5.3-inch phone?!?!? How can Apple compete if they don't have an entry in the 5.29- to 5.31-inch space? Dooooooomed!
(Now let's see if Jim Cramer, Rocco Pendola or any of those other incompetent, idiot, blowhard analysts plagiarize my comment to drive click traffic and Apple's stock price.)
(Now let's see if Jim Cramer, Rocco Pendola or any of those other incompetent, idiot, blowhard analysts plagiarize my comment to drive click traffic and Apple's stock price.)
Ionno. How much? If it's expensive then I'll change it. How's this.
"Any major player can get volume sales by becoming famous as a result of copying another player's design."
meaning:
Get reputation as a major phone seller by copying iP4 -> Use that new reputation combined with already being well known as an electronics manufacturer -> Use newly minted brand reputation to sell volume of mediocre phone with large display.
But yeah there needs to be a bigger iPhone. And not just longer. I don't like the longer form factor. I like it to be proportionally bigger.
Personally, I think many techies (like most people here) get to caught up in statements like... "people buy other phones because of iOS is lacking", or some other technical reason.
It would be interesting to see what motivates most buyers when buying a phone... I would think price is in the top 5, along with what the sales person at the phone store is pushing, and what they've been sold on the Marketing by the manufacture.
Most non-technical people I know don't know the difference from Android to iOS or any operating system. If they don't already know they want an iPhone or S4, or whatever phone, they just go with what is getting pushed, on sale or looks cool. That simple. As we know... Apple goes for the brand... the reputation and cool factor.
Besides... whatever someone buys today they will more than likely replace in 2-3 years... just one big cycle of phone swapping.
Then by your own estimates, is that the reason Apple sell so many iPhone 5's?
16GB Samsung S4, sim free [UK] £559.95
16GB iPhone 5, sim free [UK] £529
I don't know what phone you are using, but my iPhone 5 can make it from 7am to 11pm with heavy use as long as the screen brightness is relatively low.
Wow, where to begin? So much nonsense in just a couple of pages.
This is your opinion. Of course, your opinion is wrong. But hey, keep trying.
Annnddd...just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it so. Again...keep trying.
Wow...I didn't realize I looked like a chicken when making a call on my Note 2. Who knew???
Seriously though...it's not dangerous. Have you ever actually held a Note 2? If you had, you'd know it in no way blocks your peripheral vision when held up to your ear. But that doesn't fit with your it's a phone/it's a tablet agenda, so you must keep spewing all that nonsense.
Something tells me you've got a thing for tablets that you don't want to let the world know about. It's OK...no reason to be ashamed. Stop hiding in the closet and come on out! Us phablet lovers will welcome you with open arms!
Obviously more than you if he's needing to charge more than once a day. Are you sure you even use your phone?
BS. First, you don't speak for everyone, so stop doing that. Second, there was even one guy that said he wished they'd go back to a 3.5" screen...that he liked his iPhone 4 better than the 5. WTF? You people that love these small screens have either never tried a bigger one or are so afraid of change that it's paralyzing. Stop enabling Apple to keep these tiny screens and let the masses have what they want.
Yeah...it's called a Note 2. Or OG Pro. Take your pick. That's what phablets are...hybrid devices.
Why don't all the small screen whiners **** and realize that people (not all, but a majority) want bigger screens. The sooner you people stop letting Apple dictate what you want/need and actually decide for yourselves, the better everyone that loves the iPhone will be.
It's not a phone but a small tablet.
This is your opinion. Of course, your opinion is wrong. But hey, keep trying.
Annnddd...just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it so. Again...keep trying.
Wow...I didn't realize I looked like a chicken when making a call on my Note 2. Who knew???
Seriously though...it's not dangerous. Have you ever actually held a Note 2? If you had, you'd know it in no way blocks your peripheral vision when held up to your ear. But that doesn't fit with your it's a phone/it's a tablet agenda, so you must keep spewing all that nonsense.
Something tells me you've got a thing for tablets that you don't want to let the world know about. It's OK...no reason to be ashamed. Stop hiding in the closet and come on out! Us phablet lovers will welcome you with open arms!
Obviously more than you if he's needing to charge more than once a day. Are you sure you even use your phone?
BS. First, you don't speak for everyone, so stop doing that. Second, there was even one guy that said he wished they'd go back to a 3.5" screen...that he liked his iPhone 4 better than the 5. WTF? You people that love these small screens have either never tried a bigger one or are so afraid of change that it's paralyzing. Stop enabling Apple to keep these tiny screens and let the masses have what they want.
Tablets have to be smaller, phones have to be bigger????? Confused, so we are going to end up with a Hybrid divice,a "phablet" or a "tabones" or something like that??
Why don't all the big screen whiners buy a cellular iPad?
Yeah...it's called a Note 2. Or OG Pro. Take your pick. That's what phablets are...hybrid devices.
Why don't all the small screen whiners **** and realize that people (not all, but a majority) want bigger screens. The sooner you people stop letting Apple dictate what you want/need and actually decide for yourselves, the better everyone that loves the iPhone will be.
The S4 is now mediocre? Do you want to keep changing your opinion to further your cause?
The S4, HTC One and iPhone 5 are all fantastic phones. And the OSes they all run are great. Each one has advantages over the other and qualities less than the other. That's how it works.
The S4 and HTC One sell for the same as the iPhone. So yes - you were wrong. But you seem to want to just slam Samsung. And discount their success. Even though the S4 looks NOTHING like the iPhone. Nor does it behave the same way. Pointless to have a dialogue with you I guess.
I do agree with you - that Apple should offer various sizes - they would likely see less people switching and/or have new customers who want a bigger screen. As for "fragmentation" - that's a developers issue - not a customers. Not to slight developers. But as a customer that has both an Android phone and has had every instance of the iPhone - All of the apps that are popular/get used regularly work just fine. As a customer - I have never had an issue with fragmentation.
As a customer, I have also not had a problem with OS updates on either platform. I've said it before - I don't buy a phone based on what it might do in the future. I buy a phone on what it can do for me now. Everything else is gravy.
I don't doubt for a second that Apple will release a new device with more phone real estate. Watching the keynote demos of iOS 7 it felt to me that the OS was designed for a bigger screen with all of the layered sheets. Notification Center for instance looks like it needs to be wider the way the text is aligned.
As a former iPhone user (own'd iP4 and iP4S) i'm ready to switch back to la-la land. Sick and tired of for example, the batterylife on my S3, lack of quality on the apps, the laggyness and the lack of flow with an Android OS.
I do on the otherhand love the Size of an S3, but i wanted to make sure iOS7 is something new, and it is.
I missed where you could change BT etc from the Notification Center, and now, its 'Quick Settings' in iOS7.
So i think i have to get a 5S then in August, September. (gosh its long time :x)
And then get the iP6 next year (?)
So iPhone 5S and the new iPad 5 later, so i can throw out my iPad ONE!
I do on the otherhand love the Size of an S3, but i wanted to make sure iOS7 is something new, and it is.
I missed where you could change BT etc from the Notification Center, and now, its 'Quick Settings' in iOS7.
So i think i have to get a 5S then in August, September. (gosh its long time :x)
And then get the iP6 next year (?)
So iPhone 5S and the new iPad 5 later, so i can throw out my iPad ONE!
Get on a train in most places in south east Asia and you'll see very few phones with screens smaller than 4.5''... Between South Korea, Japan and China that's 1.5 billion people, a potentially massive market for bigger phones, and if Apple wants a larger portion of it, they'll have to build a phone with a larger screen, as simple as that.
They could offer 2 sizes you know...
They could offer 2 sizes you know...
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Yes, there are many factors, of course. But those factors are in place when an iPhone is released as well. The cell phone user base is large enough that there is always people on contract, off contract, upgrade eligible. So when the phone comes out doesn't affect how it will sell over it's life time -- maybe at launch, but overtime customers needing a new phone is normalized.
That comes back to my initial point that Samsung stock tanked -- similar to Apple's when Q4 2012 iPhone sales were released -- because the S4 isn't as well received as expected and its rate of growth isn't steep enough to make it very lucrative. I think one can infer there is a limited market for large screen phones, and probably not a market Apple wants to tread into until the market proves itself better.
As for who bought the S4, no, I don't have exact #s. I was being hyperbolic lumping the entire 10M into existing just to make the point 10M units in 28 days is good but not great given that it wasn't all new customers. It's a low number considering Samsung has advertised it directly against the iPhone, not other Android phones.
Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying. Every new iPhone has succeeded the previous model in sales by wide margins. You don't get that kind of growth if it's just current customers swapping out old for new. There has to be new, never owned an iPhone customers in there to increase sales, not just maintain them.
No, I have one as of yesterday. One handed operation is fine and it fits in my pocket.