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Apple Considering 'At a Glance' Notification Screen for iPhone
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I don't mean to get the discussion off topic, but is there a reason why the term "optical sensor" is used rather then "proximity sensor" for the diagrams still? I do remember following the debate about if this will be a camera or not, and that they added a second prox sensor right? So are they purposely keeping this language vague in current applications to leave open future possibility of a camera?
-just an side question.
I don't mean to get the discussion off topic, but is there a reason why the term "optical sensor" is used rather then "proximity sensor" for the diagrams still? I do remember following the debate about if this will be a camera or not, and that they added a second prox sensor right? So are they purposely keeping this language vague in current applications to leave open future possibility of a camera?
-just an side question.
It's sad that, as another poster pointed out, the basic functions of just about every other smart phone are still missing from the iPhone. Sure, it's nice to have the 'One Up' features, but they only get negated when you get the 'Uh, yeah, no MMS messages', or 'It would be sweet for Video, BUT uhhh...'
2.1 has been mostly good for me, but I still feel like I need to reboot the phone every few days. It's still not as stable as the 1.xx builds. *sigh*. Just make the darn thing work like an Apple is expected to. Remember 'It just works'???
2.1 has been mostly good for me, but I still feel like I need to reboot the phone every few days. It's still not as stable as the 1.xx builds. *sigh*. Just make the darn thing work like an Apple is expected to. Remember 'It just works'???
this would get seriously annoying for all the spam that is out there. I like the current vibration i get when i get mail letting me know it is there, rather than light up the screen every time one comes in.
My Palm Treo had a screen that would show your next few appointments and to-dos on a screen. Basically, a "summary" view.
This is why I hate software patents: most of them are pretty obvious. Tell a software engineer you want a "summary screen" and they'll make something like this for you.
Still waiting for a to-do list for the iPhone that syncs with the to-dos in iCal. Same with the notes in Mail. Or is that just buried somewhere?
The lack of a general-purpose system for syncing an iPhone app with a desktop application is about as conspicuous as the lack of copy-and-paste standard (no, OpenClip doesn't count because there's no guarantee that Apple won't either break it or obsolete it with something similar-but-different in the next build).
There should be a way for iPhone apps to sync with desktop apps when iTunes does a sync, and not some crazy hack like firing up Wifi on your desktop just long enough for a single app to sync (which is how SplashID does it).
This is why I hate software patents: most of them are pretty obvious. Tell a software engineer you want a "summary screen" and they'll make something like this for you.
Still waiting for a to-do list for the iPhone that syncs with the to-dos in iCal. Same with the notes in Mail. Or is that just buried somewhere?
The lack of a general-purpose system for syncing an iPhone app with a desktop application is about as conspicuous as the lack of copy-and-paste standard (no, OpenClip doesn't count because there's no guarantee that Apple won't either break it or obsolete it with something similar-but-different in the next build).
There should be a way for iPhone apps to sync with desktop apps when iTunes does a sync, and not some crazy hack like firing up Wifi on your desktop just long enough for a single app to sync (which is how SplashID does it).
Yeah, being able to see my new emails and the first line or so of text right on my main screen with just one press of the home button makes Intelliscreen one of the most valuable apps on my iPhone. I don't know how Apple can patent this if Intelliscreen did most of it already, but selfishly I don't care, since if Apple copies it, it will a) be easier to get onto my phone, and b) have all of Intelliscreen's slightly rough edges buffed off.
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Agreed. I should be able to glance at my phone lying on the table when I walk into the room and be able to determine if I've missed any calls/email/SMS without having to pick the phone up, power it on, slide to unlock, and flip SpringBoard back to the screen that has those icons.
Most phones accomplish this by adding an external LCD and/or an indicator light somewhere on the external casing. I'm sure SJ doesn't want to clutter up his baby, though (even though adding a subtle backlight to the home button - visible through the existing white inlay - would accomplish this without compromising the aesthetics of the iPhone) so adding this information to the unlock screen is a logical compromise.
What I'd really like to see are taskbar icons for mail/SMS/calls, so I wouldn't have to exit an app just to check that stuff. Even better, adding taskbar notifications to not only the taskbar but the iPod.app controller pop-up too - that way I could check the time and missed messages without even having to exit a full-screen game/app - I could just double-tap the Home button to call the iPod controller. Win-win.
atiffarooq said:
Agreed. I should be able to glance at my phone lying on the table when I walk into the room and be able to determine if I've missed any calls/email/SMS without having to pick the phone up, power it on, slide to unlock, and flip SpringBoard back to the screen that has those icons.
Most phones accomplish this by adding an external LCD and/or an indicator light somewhere on the external casing. I'm sure SJ doesn't want to clutter up his baby, though (even though adding a subtle backlight to the home button - visible through the existing white inlay - would accomplish this without compromising the aesthetics of the iPhone) so adding this information to the unlock screen is a logical compromise.
What I'd really like to see are taskbar icons for mail/SMS/calls, so I wouldn't have to exit an app just to check that stuff. Even better, adding taskbar notifications to not only the taskbar but the iPod.app controller pop-up too - that way I could check the time and missed messages without even having to exit a full-screen game/app - I could just double-tap the Home button to call the iPod controller. Win-win.
I don't have an iPhone, so I'd like to know...
If you're using an App and you get a call / text / email - it presumably interrupts the app to tell you so.
And when you're not using an App, or the phone for that matter, you'd lock it.
So wouldn't the proposed new notification screen solve your problem? If you're using the phone you'd notice calls / texts / emails as they alert you now anyway, and if you're not - then the notification screen tells you anyway...?
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So use a better email provider/host. Some of us get one or two spam messages a MONTH with addresses we've been using for more than five years - it sounds like you've got some issues with your email provider that you should get sorted out.
Many people, OTOH, don't. So I for one would love to see lock screen email notifications!
happydude said:
So use a better email provider/host. Some of us get one or two spam messages a MONTH with addresses we've been using for more than five years - it sounds like you've got some issues with your email provider that you should get sorted out.
Many people, OTOH, don't. So I for one would love to see lock screen email notifications!
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No, it's quite idiotic the way it works now. If I've got my phone on manner mode (which I always do) and I'm using an app, when I get a new email it'll just vibrate, with no visible notification. SMS's popup an annoying preview window which has to be manually dismissed, but emails do not. I just know that I have, on numerous occasions, received new mail/SMS while playing a game or doing whatever and had to exit the application to are what it was. Annoying, and VERY EASILY fixed by simply adding taskbar notifications.
hob said:
No, it's quite idiotic the way it works now. If I've got my phone on manner mode (which I always do) and I'm using an app, when I get a new email it'll just vibrate, with no visible notification. SMS's popup an annoying preview window which has to be manually dismissed, but emails do not. I just know that I have, on numerous occasions, received new mail/SMS while playing a game or doing whatever and had to exit the application to are what it was. Annoying, and VERY EASILY fixed by simply adding taskbar notifications.
Intelliscreen, exactly!
They should just buy it from Intelliscreen's developer. It's already quite robust and customizable and looks good.
They should just buy it from Intelliscreen's developer. It's already quite robust and customizable and looks good.
You tell 'em, General!!!
I kinda wonder why they didn't go with the idea in the first place, and how the heck could you possibly patent such a general feature
Not an original idea!!!
Why are Apple patenting ideas that have been around for ages? My Nokia E71 does this, the 'home' screen providing me all I need to know. And this has been done on earlier phones from various vendors for nearly 10 years. Even the orientation sensor idea is not new. The greatest two ideas to come from Apple are the magnetic power coupler for the MacBooks and the pinch and expand multitouch implementation.
Why are Apple patenting ideas that have been around for ages? My Nokia E71 does this, the 'home' screen providing me all I need to know. And this has been done on earlier phones from various vendors for nearly 10 years. Even the orientation sensor idea is not new. The greatest two ideas to come from Apple are the magnetic power coupler for the MacBooks and the pinch and expand multitouch implementation.
Sweet, but...
They need to not reveal the identities of the people calling or SMSing you until you unlock, or at least give the user the option of not displaying that info. I don't really want to feature the identities of the people contacting me to anyone that sees the locked screen. All I want is Voicemail - # (if not equal to zero), SMS - #, email - #, and maybe the current weather in your first Weather.app location. I also don't like how the popup window when you receive an SMS actually contains the text of the incoming SMS, instead of just the identity of the sender, or even just the fact that you received an SMS without revealing the sender, to the preference of the user.
They need to not reveal the identities of the people calling or SMSing you until you unlock, or at least give the user the option of not displaying that info. I don't really want to feature the identities of the people contacting me to anyone that sees the locked screen. All I want is Voicemail - # (if not equal to zero), SMS - #, email - #, and maybe the current weather in your first Weather.app location. I also don't like how the popup window when you receive an SMS actually contains the text of the incoming SMS, instead of just the identity of the sender, or even just the fact that you received an SMS without revealing the sender, to the preference of the user.
It's sort of stunning that this isn't there already.
The funny thing is it already does exist (in a way). If you get text messages, missed calls, etc. you see a screen like this already on the iPhone.
Ever hear of Konfabulator? This is nothing new from Apple.
The one thing that I hate most about my iPhone is how it doesn't display NEW EMAIL on the lock screen! Absolutely stupid!