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Apple could jump into that market and offer its customers either a digital or a hard copy of books, and would be able to convert all the locations into Apple Stores, too. Look what happened to the music industry when Apple brought its sales model on. Training sales folks with more on the ball than BestBuy would be an easy chore.
 
This begs the question. Why doesn't Apple (through a VC) buy 2-3 dying retail chains with exceptional locations?

K-Mart was purchased by Sears for the real estate.

General Dynamics became a holding company of sorts.

Apple has "management" skills that could be applied to rapidly accelerate the transition from over-supply of retail and consumer locations to leaner and meaner ones and gain massive numbers of outlets, real estate (including leased locations), and employees in the process.

The current job market is a limiting factor in corporate growth, even worse than display factory shortages. It may be Apple needs to buy employees in the coming 2 years.

No to low transition and hiring costs, what is the value proposition in that?

Just Rocketman

Unreliable source. So what. It is a trial balloon, to generate the very chat in this thread.
 
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This tip is gold Jerry...gold!!!

A tip from "an unproven source". Sure...this is solid. How could anyone doubt the veracity of this info? On another note, I have a tip from an unproven source that Apple will be giving away free iPads for the entire month of September. It's a back to school special. Believe it.
 
I think if they wanted a bookstore they would have bought Borders, but I don't see any reason for them to buy a bookstore.

Exactly. And they would have done it for the real estate only.

There is one company that bought like 12-13 of the Borders locations to expand their own bookselling operation. Apple could have done the same thing if there were looking for some more retail spots.
 
A tip from "an unproven source". Sure...this is solid. How could anyone doubt the veracity of this info? On another note, I have a tip from an unproven source that Apple will be giving away free iPads for the entire month of September. It's a back to school special. Believe it.

Did you mistake MacRumors for CNN or something? This is a rumors web site... its not exactly being held to top-notch journalistic standards. They hear some rumblings, do their best to get some more info, and post it here for us to chew on, truth or not.

Duh...
 
Exactly. And they would have done it for the real estate only.

There is one company that bought like 12-13 of the Borders locations to expand their own bookselling operation. Apple could have done the same thing if there were looking for some more retail spots.


Would you people please stop with the ridiculous notion that the "real estate" is valuable. They RENT the vast majority of their locations and are likely stuck in unfavorable long term leases. Furthermore, the national retail vacancy rate is near 10%.
 
I hope not, they'd probably kill my favorite book store off :(. Then again, I really doubt they'd be interested in buying it lol

I agree. I don't want Apple touching book stores because they will shut them down.
 
I think Apple will make a big acquisition within the next 2 years. The most likely candidate is RIM for their patents, enterprise technologies, hardware people and cloud experience. The software they make is generally good, but they have a total lack of strategy and business coherence. They can probably be picked up quite cheaply within the next 18-24 months, and healthy competition within the mobile market together with RIM's declining influence help the antitrust side of the deal.

I think Amazon are big contenders, too. They have massive cloud experience, and would complete Apple's media ecosystem. The big danger with buying competitors is that you inevitably kill the competing product, and most of the company's profit and soul. With amazon, if the Kindle is essential to the business, the deal just won't work. The thing is, IIRC, Amazon do not actually make substantial profits on the Kindle. What with Whispersync and those e-ink displays, margins are thin or even negative. But that's ok, because like games consoles, Kindles are portals to Amazon products with much high margins to compensate. E-books could easily be transferred to Apple's existing products. Perhaps there could be room for an e-ink based reader running iOS, but it's difficult to tell how to proceed. The antitrust side is definitely tighter, but I don't think it's impossible to get a deal like this done (perhaps involving spinning off the Kindle business to find another bookstore). Apple's interest in online purchasing is small (it's already very easy - not calling out for reinvention), but they have shown that they can do offline and online retail and make a huge success off it, so who knows?

At about the same likeliness is Nokia. Like RIM, their market share is falling, their customer loyalty (the last big thing they had going for them) shredded. The patent aspect is obviously huge here, as is their software and hardware experience, cloud services (e.g. mapping services), distribution and sales. Apple would probably spin off some of their more technical (e.g. network equipment) businesses to keep the Nokia brand. Acquiring such a big european brand might not be that easy, especially considering how slowly yet aggressively the european commission pursues antitrust enquiries. Apple also likes to keep their people close together. There's no reason it couldn't work, but it's one of the reasons Canada's RIM is far more likely a target than Nokia.

Wow, that ended up being really long. Interesting times in the industry, I suppose.
 
Doubtful.

Incompatible business strategies.

Even if Apple wanted some footprint in the physical book store retail business, Borders would be a cheaper option as they just went bankrupt. Apple can pick up Borders for a lot less than they could B&N.
 
10, way to low, B&N has some very nice properties.

There are a couple of B&N stores around here, one of which is almost optimal for integration into Apple.

As to being careful that is something Apple can deal with when they have all the land. If they can convert one B&N store in each major city in the US they will quickly expand the number of locations available to them to market Apple goods and services.

I don't trust the source either but the point is there is sound reasoning to grab the land and buildings. Locally anyways B&N has some really nice properties where as Borders has run down pits not suitable for anything Apple.

I don't know if it makes sense for Apple to purchase B&N just for the ebook deals and store locations. Apple is very careful about where they open their stores. They couldn't possibly be interested in more than 10 of B&N's locations across the US. As for the ebook catalogue. Apple already has deals with many of these publishers, who will hopefully be looking to assist iBooks catalogue after the loss of Borders.

I don't really trust this source, but I do hope iBooks comes to Mac in September. I don't believe it will be a part of iTunes, though. Seems like it should be a independent app in the Mac App Store.
 
Apple has a huge investment in the college setting. It's a great place to hook a likely profitable lifetime buyer. With B&N existing penetration in the college scene, it would make sense that they would look to some joint effort into shared space, the ebook realm, perhaps facilitated by the ipad, as campuses toy with the ebook format. Likely profitable venture for both.
 
don't forget

Quite possibly.

I really feel like quality of "front page" stories has decreased over the past few months on MacRumors.

If by some chance in hell more evidence came forward, then you could move it to front page. But now? That's just ridiculous

This site isn't called "MacRumors" for nothing
 
Next we will see rumors about Apple buying Limited Brands, Inc. Since apparently the only criteria necessary is a market cap within Apple's price range.

The synergistic opportunities are amazing -- a whole line of iBras to be sold with and without iPads. Probably going to have to rename the Mac Mini though... I don't see that selling too well at Victoria's Secret. Apple scented soaps and sanitizers from Bath and Body Works?

Humm... I put 20 seconds thought into it and already it's a better fit than this "tip".

The best I've seen so far in 5 pages is real estate, but even that's a stretch. Why spend a billion dollars to acquire a business and it's leases that were written years ago in better markets? Commercial real estate fell off the cliff with the residential market. If Apple were looking to expand now is a great time, but not by trying to leverage old leases on old locations.
 
Wegmans was great up until they went private label.

An "unproven source" told me that Apple was interested in buying Wegmans and Kroger too

However one needs to realize that Apple buying B&N could make a lot of sense because B&N has business that is in sync with Apples needs. For example college books stores. Also B&N has some really nice real-estate that could quickly be converted to Apple stores. In some cases the B&N stores are so big they can actually hold a Apple store inside while still offering up a range of paper based products.
 
Incompatible business strategies.

Cigarettes and mac 'n cheese, airplane engines and televison networks, and a cable company and hotel rooms.

All of those have widely incompatible business strategies, more so than a retail computer company and a retail bookstore.
 
Wall Street seems unimpressed by the rumor

Exactly WTF does 'wall st' know? (other than bankrupting countries) / why should anyone place any credence in their financial assessments...(hint: watch the 2011 academy award winning documentary "Inside Job" for the answer).

A sound business strategy would be to buy it and shut it down. Morally that's disgusting, but financially prudent (e.g. iBooks market share increase) - mmmm capitalism, ahgolohlloh ;)
 
There are a couple of problems here.

First the vacancy rate isn't 10% every where. Some B&N locations are very high value.

Second If you are looking to do rapid expansion of retail space, moving into quality real estate is sometimes faster than finding other suitable locations. One of the local B&N stores is almost optimal for Apple, great location, nice building and big.

Would you people please stop with the ridiculous notion that the "real estate" is valuable. They RENT the vast majority of their locations and are likely stuck in unfavorable long term leases. Furthermore, the national retail vacancy rate is near 10%.
 
Useless acquisition

It's definitely not true. I could have told you they are pushing iOS 5, iCloud and iTunes 11 in september. It's when they launch the next gen iPhone. Anybody could say that.

On another note... I know a guy that works at apple that told me they are going to launch the iPad 3 on Feb 22 of next year. I also heard that Steve jobs is leaving apple and is going to become the CEO of STAPLES, he's revolutionizing the office retail industry.
 
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Just buy Adobe already! C'mon!

5 years ago, I might have agreed, but have you noticed Apple's track record with pro users lately? I lament the day when Apple announces "We've removed over 700 usable features in the latest version of Photoshop." Then they'll stick it in the Mac App store and refuse to sell anyone an optical disc, which won't matter anyway because in a year or two, no Mac will ship with an optical drive. Oh, but they'll all be "Pros". That we can be assured of.
 
Dude Borders closed down a while ago. Your late to the party.

No, many Borders closed down a while ago, but many have still been operating, as have their website they unfortunately are all going to close.

Their mistake was not making their own E-Reader, instead choosing to partner with Kobo and such.

As for Apple buying Barnes and Noble, the only reason they would do this is to kill the Nook, which is quickly becoming a more popular E-Reader than the iPad. My bet is on Kindle in the long term though for E-Books. The problem with iBook is you can only read them on an iPad or iPhone, not on Android, a computer, etc. Kindle, Kobo and Nook all offer the ability to read on Android, iPhone, Ipad and your computer, as well as their own devices. They also allow you to share between your own devices that are linked to your account. So, Apple is really behind the game on this one.
 
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