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Apple Considering Former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney for PR Chief Position [Update: Conflicting Reports]
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Hardly. I think the truth of the Disastrous Hack that is Barack Hussein Obama is finally dawning on people of all political persuasions.
Hardly. I think the truth of the Disastrous Hack that is Barack Hussein Obama is finally dawning on people of all political persuasions.
Yes, they did split off from them. Then they used the money, training, and weapons that we gave them to continue working. It was because of our way of fighting the USSR, where we had an "enemy of my enemy" mentality and didn't care about the consequences as long as we "beat the Commies".
You seem to have a vast misunderstanding of the difference between a politician and a staff member.
I feel like the rest of the country has gotten a very distorted view of what it's like to work in and around the government. The media has pitched it as a WWE match and you all seem to believe it. Trust me, you won't get far around here if you only work with people on "your side."
As I said earlier, I'd have no problem with a liberal or a conservative in the position. I'm shocked to hear you think that "50% of [Apple's] customers" would care about this.
Why? He's not being hired to talk about abortion or gun control. He'd be hired to talk about Apple.
Jay Carney must of had to get himself into a special place to be able to continually skirt the truth without dropping his facade. He was lying to himself much more than he was to the American people via the White House press corps.
It just makes you wonder if this guy really has any core beliefs that he would put himself on the line for. A prime example of the idea of the "straw man".
It just makes you wonder if this guy really has any core beliefs that he would put himself on the line for. A prime example of the idea of the "straw man".
über left
Obama a 'center-right cultural conservative'? Are you shtiting me? Obama is so far left he's ultraviolet. Technically he's an anti-colonialist, but since most people don't know what that is, the simpler term would be socialist with radical ideological tendencies. Holy cow.
Obama a 'center-right cultural conservative'? Are you shtiting me? Obama is so far left he's ultraviolet. Technically he's an anti-colonialist, but since most people don't know what that is, the simpler term would be socialist with radical ideological tendencies. Holy cow.
what an awful idea.
zero credibility.
every time he talks, people have been conditioned to know he is lying.
zero credibility.
every time he talks, people have been conditioned to know he is lying.
The job of a press secretary is to lie and spin for the president. Coincidentally that's also the job of Apple's PR Chief.
If you think of the Presidency as a products company, the Obama Administration is one of the worst products companies we've ever seen, and Jay Carney did the best possible job anyone could do spinning something so terrible.
So if he's joining a company that actually makes tremendously good products, why wouldn't you think he'd do a good job spinning those?
If you think of the Presidency as a products company, the Obama Administration is one of the worst products companies we've ever seen, and Jay Carney did the best possible job anyone could do spinning something so terrible.
So if he's joining a company that actually makes tremendously good products, why wouldn't you think he'd do a good job spinning those?
I don't think you know what "left" means, or "socialist". I seriously think you just picked up on whatever crap Fox News was telling you. He hasn't done a single socialist thing, or even considerably left thing, since he has gotten into office. I'm not talking about his speeches, I'm talking about what he has actually pushed for.
Yes because Obama has raised the minimum wage to $25/hour, reduced the working week to 30 hours, conviscated shares and land from the rich and handed them back to the people, made education and healthcare free at the point of use etc etc.
If he'd done all of that stuff you could call him "far left".
You honestly don't think he'd have done every single one of those things if he'd had the votes?
Jim Dalrymple has delivered a 'nope' to this rumor - http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/07/15/about-the-rumor-jay-carney-could-be-apples-next-pr-boss/
I was trying to take it easy. Not looking for a web fight! I'll let everyone else do that.
I don't. Obama is a member of the establishment just like everyone else you get to pick for president.
hahaha. I think you've been drinking too much of Rush's kool aid because you're dead wrong on this one.
Policy wise, Obama is an authoritarian conservative... his positions put him in pretty much in line with the Republicans on the political spectrum.
Thanks to the political compass thread we have going on right now:
Candidate Obama in 2008
President Obama in 2012
On the spectrum, President Obama's positions are nearly identical to John McCain, Sarah Palin, and Mitt Romney. He's not even remotely close to liberal. He was pretty moderate when he was running as a candidate.. but since he took office he's made a massive shift to the right.
Your post demonstrates a lack of facility with the terms. What exactly about Obama do you find so far left? He's quite comfortable with capitalism and the wall street community, he filled his cabinet with those people.
Certainly not in his health care reform.. A leftist approach to health care reform would be a single payer solution, not the gift to the private 'for profit' insurance industry and big pharma the ACA actually is. I've never heard Obama disparage anything corporate or privatized. In fact, he's always singing the praises of how wonderful capitalism is. So continue to believe the nonsense if you're predisposed to do so.. But understand that many of us know better.
bad too
Yeah, that was a terrible hiring decision too. Insane, but not as insane as hiring Carney would be. There is a bit of difference between an EPA hack and a known disgraceful liar.
Yeah, that was a terrible hiring decision too. Insane, but not as insane as hiring Carney would be. There is a bit of difference between an EPA hack and a known disgraceful liar.
He was the mouthpiece for an unpopular administration. You can't understand this controversy until that fact sinks in.
What nonsense! DC and surrounding suburbs are overwhelmingly liberal. You don't have to worry about opposing views because there are hardly any to be found.
Depends on how much attention it gets. Carney is associated with the disaster that is Obama, and by bringing him on as an employee, so will Apple.
When you get a reputation as a liar, that doesn't change just because you're working for someone else. Nobody listens to the wind.
I think its pretty clear Obama would have gone single payer if that had a chance of getting voted in. However, the current system isn't so far removed. The government has mandated the product offerings and removed a lot of the pricing flexibility in the marketplace. And the gov't is massively subsidizing the insurers if they lose money so they will end up paying for a large chunk of healthcare costs. The insurers are pretty much a middle man at this point. We will probably end up with single payer within a few decades, its too bad.