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Anyhow, the bottom line is: think "new Coke" ... marketing blunder. Best to stick with the classic "Mac" than to screw it all up.
I don't like it either, but I don't think Apple's going to get rid of the "Mac" moniker per say, it's just that Macs will also run some flavor of iOS instead of OS X. Today this is just a change of name, but I think think in the future it will become more fundamental.

Steve wants everyone to have the same "experience" with Apple products, and I think he's using more of the Starbucks and Hilton approach: there may be a little local flavor at the shop (read: desktop and portable OS variations), but at the end of the day it's still an Apple product running iOS. Just as people travel to Germany, Japan or Australia and get the same experience buying a coffee at Starbucks and staying at a Hilton, people will buy an iToy or Mac and have the same OS experience, which will be iOS. I think this is where the rumors of an iOS layer on OS X are coming from now, Apple is going to start making the "experience" of the different operating systems converge over time.

To me, iOS on OS X sounds a lot like Microsoft Bob, but I think Apple is targeting the next generation of mobile computing users - the folks who never had to pick their way through Apple BASIC, DOS code, or remember what computers were like without a decent GUI. I've stated in other threads that there are some highly innovative components to iOS that would work well on a desktop system, but the increasing power of mobile processors for both laptops and phones to handle robust features formerly found only in higher-end desktop systems and the decreasing market of desktop users will make a complete merge between iOS and OS X possible. I'm just scared of what that baby's going to look like - not so much because it won't run Final Cut Pro if I need it to, but because of how Apple is positioning its vertical markets, App Store and iAd control now.
 
No. He said full-fledged computers will be like trucks. They will still be there for people who need them.

yes he did but to expand he said that he thought that "pc's" would be like trucks in that when the automobile was invented trucks had a virtual 100% marketshare. As life changed and the car took over the market share for trucks went to 3 or 4%.

so he's saying that the computer market as we know it (300 mill machines per year) will be 9 to 12 million units in the near future, everyone will replace then with portable tablet like devices.

he didn't say that PC's would be running OSX though.

remember if you disagree with iCon you are agreeing with the other Steve ;-)

edit:

RANCHO PALOS VERDES, Calif.--At the D8 conference here, Steve Jobs didn't whip out the newest iPhone or tell us which category will be next to get an "i" before it, but his words offered a glimpse of where the iconic CEO thinks the industry is headed.

Speaking for an hour and a half at the D: All Things Digital confab, Jobs said the day is coming when only one out of every few people will need a traditional computer.

"When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks because that's what you needed on the farms." Cars became more popular as cities rose, and things like power steering and automatic transmission became popular.

"PCs are going to be like trucks," Jobs said. "They are still going to be around." However, he said, only "one out of x people will need them."

Jobs said advances in chips and software will allow tablet devices like the iPad to do tasks that today are really only suited for a traditional computer, things like video editing and graphic arts work.

The move, Jobs said, will make many PC veterans uneasy, "because the PC has taken us a long ways."

"We like to talk about the post-PC era, but when it really starts to happen, it's uncomfortable," he said.

Jobs noted that people still laugh at him when he talks about the iPad as magical, and he tried to put that feeling into more concrete terms. "You have a much more direct and intimate relationship with the Internet and media and apps and your content," Jobs said. "It's like some intermediate thing has been removed and stripped away. Like that Claritin commercial where they strip away the film--it's like that."


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20006526-56.html
 
Don't forget they are also working on this:

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This going to change the whole era of desktop computing.
 
Dunno if anyone noticed (cba to read the whole thread) but... You know you need a Mac to develop for the Iphone right?

That's right, they aren't going to scrap their development platform that's making the Iphone a succes :rolleyes: I'm not sure they're going to scrap e.g. the Mac Pro to replace it with a development pc/expensive text editor, that you can work on so you can develop your apps, either.

Anyhow some people believe too much in what they read on MR and get carried away in the "OH-NO! OH-NO! OH-NOOOOOOOES!!! OMGOMGOMGOMG THEY'RE KILLING OS X" flow.

Just relax, OS X isn't going anywhere in the near future. Yes, it MIGHT get an iOS layer but so what? It's not like they're -on purpose*- making the next iteration of OS X worse than its predecessor.

*Some will probably respond: they're not doing it deliberately, but they are still not investing as much in OS X as:
1) they did before
2) the competition (Oh hello, Microsoft!)

=> IMO I'm happy they're doing great (due to the investments in the Iphone)

Thanks for bearing with me this far ;)

/Dear me did I just post this underneath some interesting, well argumented replies! Sorry folks, sometimes I get carried away a bit! :)
 
Good one. I see you put a lot of thought and care into your responses. Shows how much you care about OS X. Why bother?

Mhmm, much like your thought invoking responses that consist of the following:

That's good but Apple should just buy Sony and take their name. They seem hell bent on becoming Sony. The Sony iPad. The Sony iMac. Has a nice ring to it.

Agreed. Apple was doing great with Tim Cook at the helm. Apple's products used to be "Insanely Great" now their leader is the only thing insane. Is Steve trying for a repeat of 1985?

iOS layered on top of OS X? Sounds like bloatware. Is Apple trying to become Windows? OS X, we hardly knew thee. Such a rapid rise and seemingly just as quick a fall. :(

This is what your thought process is like:

What the article title said: Next MacBooks to have "glass trackpads"

What everyone heard: Next MacBooks to have touchscreens in the palmrest


What the article title said: Randy Ubilos back in charge of FCP, possible GUI changes

What everyone heard: FCP to become iMovie 08


What the article title said: Apple might change OS X's name to "iOS", like they recently did for iPhone OS

What everyone heard: Apple replacing Mac OS X with iPhone OS, leaving PC/workstation business.


What will you crazy people come up with next?
Now that's a good one.
 
This sounds like linkbait. Who the hell is HardMac anyway? Why on earth would anyone believe this? And what is their track record on rumors they report being accurate?

Apple's mac sales are incredibly healthy, up 33% year over year for the last quarter. Mac sales also represent a solid revenue base which Apple can use to fund iOS development. Just because most of the public can't conceive of a company doing more than one thing at a time doesn't mean Apple can't. Sometimes I am amazed at the naivete and childishness of technology commenters.
 
yes he did but to expand he said that he thought that "pc's" would be like trucks in that when the automobile was invented trucks had a virtual 100% marketshare. As life changed and the car took over the market share for trucks went to 3 or 4%.

so he's saying that the computer market as we know it (300 mill machines per year) will be 9 to 12 million units in the near future, everyone will replace then with portable tablet like devices.

he didn't say that PC's would be running OSX though.

remember if you disagree with iCon you are agreeing with the other Steve ;-)
The market share is irrelevant to what we are talking about. You said the following: "hints at the end of all fully fledged personal computers including laptops"

And now all you're doing is backpeddling. Keep on spreading that FUD. ;)
 
Can you picture trying to type an essay on an iMac touch screen? I can't believe anone could type on a touch screen anywhere near as fast as you can on a real keyboard.
I dunno - I think it would be more "Minority Report" style. Using the screen as a navigational tool, but there were still horizontal keyboards on which to type. I think iOS 4 just introduced the ability to pair bluetooth keyboards (and you can already pair a bluetooth keyboard with the iPad), so Apple knows nothing beats a keyboard for text input.
 
Mac is dead...

What a ridiculous comment! Sure, Apple is going to ZOMGGGGG kill OS X and you are positive of this from a very shady rumor. Take a break. Unplug. Go outside, breathe. Of course you are going to reply and say something along the lines of "dude I was just being sarcastic". Sure you were. How long have the secretly anti-Mac "fanboys" on any Mac site been shouting from the rooftops that the Mac was dead or dying? I'll cross that bridge if the day ever comes, but I don't see them simply abandoning OS X, that is absurd. It is also absurd that they would license OS X to be run on generic PC's, but I see that happening before they trash OS X. (Yeah I know you didn't say anything about OS X on PC's, but I put that in there as a comparison of absurdness).
 
Meaningless?

No, I get that the 'i' represented many things. I guess meaningless isn't the right word, but I mean it doesn't represent one word in the acronym.

And if you think Internet/individual/Instruct/Inspire/Inform Operating System is an acceptable name you are mistaken. Any and all modern operating systems connect to the internet, are multi-user (individual? WTF?), instructive (ehhh wut?), inspirational (not any more than any other OS), informative (the operating system is the least informative part of the information your computer conveys).
 
I really can't imagine everyone going tablet for work. Video editing, and graphics on a little tablet? Just don't buy it. As far as I know from experience, editors and graphic artists love their huge screens and powerful machines. iMovie on iPhone is a joke.

What Jobs is engaging in appears to be the forceful dumbing down of society. We should be encouraging productivity, not removing the tools that do so. Either Jobs knows something we really don't, or he has lost his mind.
 
to all those claiming the mac is dead and ready for lockdown, thats not what steve jobs is after. at all things d, steve said the "pc is a truck". notice how people still drive trucks to this day - but not as many as before. think about this: we are all those who needs "trucks" because of the work we do- graphic design, website design, etc.etc. Now think of all of the people who just went out and bought a $1000 computer to just surf the internet. Wasteless! Those people just need the $500 iPad. Steve wants to produce "trucks" AND "sedans". He wants to have both ends covered.

iOS is just a name change. More exposure to the Mac laptops and desktops, just as the article states. People will think "if this iOS device is so easy to use and so innovative, I should use a Mac running iOS for my day-to-day needs!" bam, another $1000 for apple.
 
No, I get that the 'i' represented many things. I guess meaningless isn't the right word, but I mean it doesn't represent one word in the acronym.

And if you think Internet/individual/Instruct/Inspire/Inform Operating System is an acceptable name you are mistaken. Any and all modern operating systems connect to the internet, are multi-user (individual? WTF?), instructive (ehhh wut?), inspirational (not any more than any other OS), informative (the operating system is the least informative part of the information your computer conveys).

Go back to a 1998 frame of mind if you don't understand what these things meant. It was a letter, it stuck and they are using it. Mac OS didn't make much sense when they were still using the iBook and PowerBook monikers. Names change. You will get over it.
 
As anticipated - there goes the Macintosh and it's valued operating system. Pros not updated, no real innovation in the Mac branded computers, MBA not renewed...

While I am concerned for the longevity of the actual Mac, you can't be upset with Apple's current offerings (With the exception of the Mac Pro). The iMac is a work of art, the MacBook's & MacBook Pro's are the best that I've used since my old PowerBook G3. While the iPhone is their current obsession, it's not really impacting the Mac very much. Also I think the reason the Air isn't being updated very much is because they don't sell very well. Especially now that the other 13" offerings are such great machines. Plus the iPad had to of cannibalized tons of MacBook Air sales.
 
to all those claiming the mac is dead and ready for lockdown, thats not what steve jobs is after. at all things d, steve said the "pc is a truck". notice how people still drive trucks to this day - but not as many as before. think about this: we are all those who needs "trucks" because of the work we do- graphic design, website design, etc.etc. Now think of all of the people who just went out and bought a $1000 computer to just surf the internet. Wasteless! Those people just need the $500 iPad. Steve wants to produce "trucks" AND "sedans". He wants to have both ends covered.

iOS is just a name change. More exposure to the Mac laptops and desktops, just as the article states. People will think "if this iOS device is so easy to use and so innovative, I should use a Mac running iOS for my day-to-day needs!" bam, another $1000 for apple.

By that same token, the internet on my iPad is nowhere near as nice as it is on my desktop (despite what some marketers might be trying to shove down your throat). Also, for the price of an iPad you can get a pretty good powered PC that will smoke it in everything it does. If you want an iPad it would have to be for the form factor, and the portability.

The iPad is "nice" but compared to a pc is quite average in terms of usage.
 
The market share is irrelevant to what we are talking about. You said the following: "hints at the end of all fully fledged personal computers including laptops"

And now all you're doing is backpeddling. Keep on spreading that FUD. ;)


google the actual quote or re-read my edited post.

no backpeddling here...

I'm right and you're ...well...not. :p
 
I really can't imagine everyone going tablet for work. Video editing, and graphics on a little tablet? Just don't buy it. As far as I know from experience, editors and graphic artists love their huge screens and powerful machines. iMovie on iPhone is a joke.

What Jobs is engaging in appears to be the forceful dumbing down of society. We should be encouraging productivity, not removing the tools that do so. Either Jobs knows something we really don't, or he has lost his mind.

he's not doing that I'm sure he views the iPad and future devices as just the portal to a permanently connected VPN where you have apps that run on Apple's servers with GUI on the tablet.

real and proper cloud computing...
 
Go back to a 1998 frame of mind if you don't understand what these things meant. It was a letter, it stuck and they are using it. Mac OS didn't make much sense when they were still using the iBook and PowerBook monikers. Names change. You will get over it.

Wow. No where did I say I was upset or freaking out about this. I simply said I don't like the name as much as OS Ten. Why should I go back to a 1998 frame of mind? it's 2010. Besides, this is just a rumor, it's not like Apple has issued a press release.
 
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