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They all prefer the considerably cheaper Ford Mondeo to the overpriced 3 series BMW.

I agree with them.

Analogy fail, once again.

Muwhahahahaa

Car Analogy
Apple fanatics are like BMW drivers
/Car Analgoy

Exit stage left with my MB, whilst using my XP64 Workstaiton.

You are missing the point. Cars/computers that cost more can justify it with quality, brand recognition, features, the experience etc...

I mean, look at your own personal choices. You own a Macbook and a PC of sorts...? Well, what made you buy either one? Did you want or need any those? For me, I wanted a Mac because of Apple's track record for reliability and ease of use, not to mention a better OS and software for my line of work. Same goes for cars, there are those for the commuter, for the enthused, for the green conscious or the VIP. Like I said, only a real petrol-head would get the car analogy.

Mac = bottled water

Windows = bottled water backwash

Linux = tap water

I like this one, though you could argue that Macs are more like bottled smart water. You know since that water comes with added nutrients/minerals at a higher price the way Macs come with a better OS and software at a higher price.:D
 
I don't understand why they don't just do the exact same thing they do with the iphone ad's but on a Mac.

It would give people a chance to see how a Mac works and the real differences involved.

Show something, quick, snappy, informative and more importantly... Mac. Not just two people stood talking?

The iphone ads have sold a hell of a lot of iphones because it shows just how easy it is to use and the benefits you get from it. Mac's are exactly the same when you compare them to a PC... show it.

Features such as low resolution, bigger visual controls / icons, and single app-centric nature so readily make the iphone ideal for demoing on a TV screen.

Displaying the standard iLife apps on a TV screen will convey nothing (much like the photo manipulation stuff in the PC ads). Think about it, when was the last time you were truly impressed by a desktop app appearing in a 30 second TV ad.
 
Mac = bottled water

Windows = bottled water backwash

Linux = tap water

http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/water121003.cfm

congrats, you bought into the hype!

The message is clear: Bottled water is "good" water, as opposed to that
nasty, unsafe stuff that comes out of the tap. But in most cases tap water
adheres to stricter purity standards than bottled water

now go back to your over priced PC with the nice white glossy finish. and ill go back to my overclocked PC thats half the price and has piano black finish.

I agree. And what's worse is that Microsoft actually paid some advertising company to produce these Ad's... Yeah, it's exactly like saying 'We make a flawed product that runs on cheap plasticky computers - buy a PC!' :rolleyes:

yeah cheap chinese plasticy computers... Macs... (cheap for apple to manufacture and produce, but not for the consumer)

BTW PC's come in all shapes sizes and materials, you can get full aluminum chassis or even lexan cases, what about macs? cheap plastic.
my laptop comes in a light weigh carbon composite material (not woven carbon fiber but another type of carbon fiber)

This thread is hilarious. I think most of us agree that the car analogies are too ridiculous to continue being used, so there's got to be a more apt comparison between PCs and Macs that makes a lot more sense.

ive already proven in 2 diffrent threads that car analogies are totally off when it comes to computers becuase a Core2duo 2.66GHz is the exact same as another core2duo at 2.66GHz (they will both have the exact same MIPs and MFLOPS as another 2.66GHz)

however they do overclock diffrently but that doesnt count.

a Jag will not have the same V6 as a ford even if the BLOCK is the same, the timing components, valves, pistons, etc are all diffrent with a diffrent output in HP and torque.

Yeah but they all do the same bloody thing, get you from point A to B. You also pay for the Mercedes brand premium. Why do you think Mercedes charges more for their cars than Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, etc. Apple has a higher brand than all those PC companies, studies also show Apple has the highest satisfaction rates in the industry while the rates for the PC companies are dropping through the toilet because they can't match the experience Apple provides. Apple also differentiates themselves through their superior OS and software solutions. What software solutions does HP and Dell develop? When you add in all that I'm willing to pay a premium to buy from Apple because at the end of the day I care about how satisfied I'll be about my purchase and not how cheap the computer is.

im sorry a Hyundai Genesis Sedan 4.6L V8 will roast a C300 mercedes for CHEAPER, will have MORE options, LONGER warranty, MORE power (375HP Vs 228HP), more space inside (a genesis is in the same weight and size category as an E class) with the leather feeling exacaly the same.

apple would be closer to VW, looks nice, crappy horse power, over priced, maintainence is twice as much (oilchanges are like $120 CAD vs $30) cant handle worth crap, only a brand name to protect their "MEXICAN" made cars (apple = chinese made computers by Hon Hai)

i would take an Infinity over a VW any day.

Exactly...

So, Mac's are actually PC's.

It's not a Kia vs Merc issue.

PC's and Mac's are the same components, just with a different body kit.

That's the truth.

They just run a different OS.

the OS in regards to cars would only be location of your HVAC controls, headlight switch, radio look and feel.

both Windows, OSX and linux will allow you to

Check your email (drive to work)
chat on IM (talk to people on the phone via bluetooth)
watch youtube (watch movies on the nav screen)
turn on and off the computer (push button engine start/stop)
delete porn (haul dead bodies in the trunk)


the OS's do the same function but just diffrently
 
Biohazard Ad = ********, Macs run windows, they get infected too, also AVs are free, even the best one is free (Antivir), PC's dont all run windows anyways, some run OSX, some run ubuntu, some run SuSE. Apple please cut the BS.

Legal copy = WTF? and apples EULA isnt a load of crap too? with Apple's EULA it tells you that you cant do this and that, and can only install it on their own, apple's legal crap is alot worse than MS

Stacks = again WTF, MS had facial recognition in live seach since 2007

http://www.online-tech-tips.com/ind...ages-now-includes-facial-recognition-filters/

windows also allows login with facial recognition

http://on10.net/blogs/sarahintampa/Log-Into-Windows-Using-Facial-Recognition-Software/

also picsmatch does the same thing, and the HUNDREDS of dollars i save when buying a Pc i could buy a $50 program however im not as retarded as some users and my photos are organized so i can find any photo easily as it is.

time traveler, WTF? so macs dont freeze? do i REALLY need to post that picture i have with a mac having a kernel panic? seriously? at my last job my PC didnt freeze even NEAR the number of times the POS macmini froze, that macmini froze with the CPU at 100% and the fan going 100%. hows that for freezing?

i guess this thread is a myth then too right? (apples own discussion forum about freezing macs)

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1967178&tstart=0

go to hell apple, you and your false advertising.

And the Troll of the year award goes too...

do you know what a troll is? almost everyone in this thread is providng references to back up their claims.
 
Exactly. And They Should Show Some Points To Tell People That You Pay For You Get. Apple Wouldnt Sell This Much If People Were Actually Getting Ripped Off.

Look at the Xbox 360? People complained about it, because the reliability was low, now we have lots of people looking elsewhere because of this. Do we have people regretting their purchase of a mac? Even if they paid an arm and a leg?

Trust me theres people out there that dont have that much money (like me) and when they buy their macs, they are going to make sure its "perfect" and that they got "what they paid for". They want it to be worth the extra money compared to PCs. And I haven't seen not one complain yet.

Apple needs to show that. :apple:

Sigh, no offense as it sounds like you enjoy your product and more power to you. But pelase don't confuse what people "say" with reality.

Apple is not infallable and have had many issues that for one reason or another rarely makes it past tech forums/news sites.

For instance, the Sony batteries....i'm pretty sure 95% of people only associated the issue with Dell computers (some were smart enough to figure Vaio's were effected as well)....hardly anyone I knew knew that Macs were effected.

Still can't figure out why that is.

Or hey, even the cracking of Macbooks issue that apple just admitted to:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/722/1051722/apple-admits-cracked-macbooks

This will largely go ignored when talking about Apple's reliability for reasons, still beyond me.
 
Sigh, no offense as it sounds like you enjoy your product and more power to you. But pelase don't confuse what people "say" with reality.

Apple is not infallable and have had many issues that for one reason or another rarely makes it past tech forums/news sites.

For instance, the Sony batteries....i'm pretty sure 95% of people only associated the issue with Dell computers (some were smart enough to figure Vaio's were effected as well)....hardly anyone I knew knew that Macs were effected.

Still can't figure out why that is.

Or hey, even the cracking of Macbooks issue that apple just admitted to:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/722/1051722/apple-admits-cracked-macbooks

This will largely go ignored when talking about Apple's reliability for reasons, still beyond me.

I've noticed this too. Mac users seem to sweep problems under the rug and then rip on PCs for their "problems." It's fanboyism at its finest.
 
WHOA!! EVERYONE STOP!!

CNBC has the final word, APPLE HAS WON!!

http://i.gizmodo.com/5220277/cnbc-i...cs-need-600-extra-to-perform-as-well-as-a-mac

why?

you have to PAY for free antiviruses!!! (like antivir)

Itunes costs money for windows!! $104!! VLC, kmplayer and klite mega codec + WMP also cost $104!!! each and total!

photoshop costs $140 ?? and its free on a mac,

video editing is free for $100 because TMPENc you have to pay for

music software $100 for PC and nothing for the mac (audacity is free but i paid $100 for it)

geek squad costs $129 but $250 applecare is free

oh and a 2.0GHz T7200 core2duo Mac is faster than my 2.2GHz T7500 core2duo becuase Mac CPU's are AUTOMATICALLY faster.

Apple is not infallable and have had many issues that for one reason or another rarely makes it past tech forums/news sites.


This will largely go ignored when talking about Apple's reliability for reasons, still beyond me.


wrong this article states CLEARLY that mac has ZERO issues

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/04/evidence-suggests-first-zombie-mac-botnet-is-active.ars
 
Lessons Learned from Political Attack Ads.

Michael Dukakis learned in 1988 that not replying to the Willie Horton ad quickly and forcefully killed him. Bill Clinton heeded that lesson and formed a rapid response team to hit back at George HW Bush. He went on to serve two terms (the maximum allowed by the Constitution). Al Gore and Kerry seemed to have forgotten this wisdom, so Bush's Demon Seed got two terms in office. Barack Obama had that fighting spirit and now he's President.

Apple realized that if you don't smack those losers like Lauren and Giampaolo down, their idiotic statements ring true to some people. These ads are just that kind of counterpunch.

I wouldn't be surprised if these commercials weren't written a long time ago and kept in silos just like nuclear missiles. Microsoft triggered this response with its attack ads. Apple is finally putting into commercials they way a lot of us Mac fans have been saying for a long time.
 
WHOA!! EVERYONE STOP!!

CNBC has the final word, APPLE HAS WON!!

http://i.gizmodo.com/5220277/cnbc-i...cs-need-600-extra-to-perform-as-well-as-a-mac

why?

you have to PAY for free antiviruses!!! (like antivir)

Itunes costs money for windows!! $104!! VLC, kmplayer and klite mega codec + WMP also cost $104!!! each and total!

photoshop costs $140 ?? and its free on a mac,

video editing is free for $100 because TMPENc you have to pay for

music software $100 for PC and nothing for the mac (audacity is free but i paid $100 for it)

geek squad costs $129 but $250 applecare is free

oh and a 2.0GHz T7200 core2duo Mac is faster than my 2.2GHz T7500 core2duo becuase Mac CPU's are AUTOMATICALLY faster.

breathe mate :) and take it easy. maybe you should just give it a try, you do seem fascinated by the mac topic :)
 
breathe mate :) and take it easy. maybe you should just give it a try, you do seem fascinated by the mac topic :)

:D I think it's really quite sad seeing Windows users posting here and trying to argue how a Windows PC is better value or whatever the latest arguement is.

I mean, :rolleyes: really. Growing a tumor just to convince people who honestly don't care, that some guy on a forum says he loves Windows and a PC. He should just go outside and play ball.. or join Neowin.net - either is good. ;)
 
What I wanna know is, if Microsoft made their own brand of PC, what would they charge for it? If their software pricing is any basis, the price of a theoretical Microsoft PC would probably cost more than a comparative Apple system.
 
Biohazard Ad = ********, Macs run windows, they get infected too, also AVs are free, even the best one is free (Antivir), PC's dont all run windows anyways, some run OSX, some run ubuntu, some run SuSE. Apple please cut the BS.

Legal copy = WTF? and apples EULA isnt a load of crap too? with Apple's EULA it tells you that you cant do this and that, and can only install it on their own, apple's legal crap is alot worse than MS

Stacks = again WTF, MS had facial recognition in live seach since 2007

http://www.online-tech-tips.com/ind...ages-now-includes-facial-recognition-filters/

windows also allows login with facial recognition

http://on10.net/blogs/sarahintampa/Log-Into-Windows-Using-Facial-Recognition-Software/

also picsmatch does the same thing, and the HUNDREDS of dollars i save when buying a Pc i could buy a $50 program however im not as retarded as some users and my photos are organized so i can find any photo easily as it is.

time traveler, WTF? so macs dont freeze? do i REALLY need to post that picture i have with a mac having a kernel panic? seriously? at my last job my PC didnt freeze even NEAR the number of times the POS macmini froze, that macmini froze with the CPU at 100% and the fan going 100%. hows that for freezing?

i guess this thread is a myth then too right? (apples own discussion forum about freezing macs)

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1967178&tstart=0

go to hell apple, you and your false advertising.

Damn Apple has gotten to the Microsoft fanboys, it seems to be working..:D
 
Damn Apple has gotten to the Microsoft fanboys, it seems to be working..:D

Yeah it makes me laugh how it makes them so angry! They spend hours on here trying to convince us that our choice is wrong and theirs is right.

We are going to continue using and enjoying our expensive computers no matter what they say, so you have to wonder why they bother. Why is it so important to them?

6,000+ posts, and the conclusion is... some people think Macs are overpriced, and some people think they're worth it. Exactly the same as before.

Find another cause to fight, PC people, and your lives will be less frustrating.

:apple:
 
Find another cause to fight, PC people, and your lives will be less frustrating.

Yes, these newest ads are no more or less truthful than any of the others in the long, boring PC and MAC series.

It's funny, though, to see Microsoft having the class to pitch positive ads, while Apple continues to do petty, negative advertising which is seems obviously overstated or false to much of the audience.
 
Yeah it makes me laugh how it makes them so angry! They spend hours on here trying to convince us that our choice is wrong and theirs is right.

Well we do the same thing. Who's right? Who's wrong? Well, that's up to everyone else to decide. All I know is this:

We don't run or need to run any antivirus software
We don't need to do any maintenance to the OS to keep it from grinding to a halt
We have a much more stable system
No compatibility issues
Best in class software
Better looking software in terms of design/UI integration
Unix
Better-designed OS - certainly much cleaner code
Better looking OS
etc., etc . . . the list goes on and on

I wouldn't trade in my Mac for anything. I even hang on to my old Macs from years ago. They have quite a resale value, anyway. It's really all about the way you feel about the tools you use on a daily basis. I actiually LIKE doing work on my Mac. It's that simple.
 
Yes, these newest ads or no more or less truthful than any of the others in the long, boring Pc and MAC series.

It's funny, though, to see Microsoft having the class to pitch positive ads, while Apple continues to do petty, negative advertising which is seems obviously overstated or false to much of the audience.

well the point is they are just ads. while the one takes an entertaining approach (and it does entertain) the other is merely "meh. thanks for the old info" style. neither is positive. neither is negative. they are just ads. (besides i still think that the ms ads are the most negative shown in a long time since they do openly try to make money out of other peoples monetary misery.) and if something bores you. you can always switch channels. apparently many like the mac vs. pc ads.
 
Yes. Some bad actors telling us that Macs are expensive. Classy and positive. You got me there.

Yeah if that's what we call positive advertising, then the world is truly down the toilet.
 
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