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Apple Continues Mac OS X 10.5.3 (9d27) Development
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Speak for yourself. Leopard is doing just fine for most folks.
Also, if Leopard is 'disgraceful', then you have the choice to go to windo$, Linux, Solaris, etc.
Better yet, you could become a developer and help solve the mess as you see it for the benefit of every one.
Leopard is fantastic. Maybe because I come from Windows and non-user friendly Linux distros. There are a few quirks. If I stick a DVD into my Macbook 2.2 with 4gb of ram it pukes out with a Kernel panic which I feel is more of a firmware issue then a Leopard issue. The finder not remembering view settings based on folder annoys me.
Other then that, i've had no gripes about it. IMO, anything they "fix" is just making the best desktop/portable operating system better.
Other then that, i've had no gripes about it. IMO, anything they "fix" is just making the best desktop/portable operating system better.
These:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/429296/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/475711/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/416857/
Other than that issue, I have hardly any other problems with Leopard, and it can only get better. One thing though... when can we expect resolution independence?
Supremely offtopic, but couldn't this be an issue with the hodge-podge of different recordable DVD formats? Computers are typically able to play all of them but this isn't true of all hardware players, which tend to be somewhat cheaply made. This is where you get problems with DVD+R versus DVD-R etc.
How clever of you, you spelled the "s" in Vista with a dollar sign.... *sigh* No wonder the rest of the world hates Mac users.
Anyway, I wouldn't call Leopard bug free like many are saying here. Just because you haven't experienced any issues doesn't mean they don't exist. I am very much looking forward to 10.5.3. Fix the damn Airport already!
A bit OT, but I hope they fix Boot Camp. I bought a Vista SP1 install DVD last week (I'm a computer tech so I want to be familiar w/ it, plus all the games 
) and installed it on my 2.33 GHz C2D MBP. The audio doesn't work. I looked at some of the threads on discussions.apple.com, and I guess it's a driver issue. Come on Apple, MS & whoever makes the audio hardware in MBPs, I want to hear stuff when I need to run Vista!
) and installed it on my 2.33 GHz C2D MBP. The audio doesn't work. I looked at some of the threads on discussions.apple.com, and I guess it's a driver issue. Come on Apple, MS & whoever makes the audio hardware in MBPs, I want to hear stuff when I need to run Vista!
No. As in the finder window readjusts itself in size after every restart or whatever; it keeps resizing how large the coverflow section is along with the size of the window.
And this is a Safari problem how?
If it's crashing on Flash, I'd think that Adobe would be my first suspicion, seeing that they WRITE THE FLASH PLAYER for Safari.
Completely agree, and Nvidia is partially to blame, even their windows and linux drivers cause problems while ATI seems to be much more stable on the hardware and driver side of things.
some troubles, but not much
Personaly I think the trooubles in 10.5 are not so bad. I waited until 10.5.1 was out (according to some the worst version) and didn't have much trouble. Once or twice Safari closed on me while doing nothing special, I've had Mail crash about 3 times since januari, but it stored the email I was working on. No kernel panics, no major crashes.
How different it was when I was working on a Toshiba M100, ever month it needed a clean install of XP tablet, or twice a month was also no exception. I was compelled to work on the thing otherwise I would have thrown it in a junk bin from day three when I had a really fatal crash and couldn't get it to do anything.
I think leopard has it quirks, but is overall a fairly stable and nice working OS with some nice updates from the Tiger. Certainly after 5.2 it has been working like a charm.
Perhaps some people have trouble with the 8800, but that is IMHO not as much a leopard problem as more a "driver" problem for a specific part from the Macbook pro's.
Then again, I've also read some burning & flame-grilling on the 8600 but mine is working very good and stable although it is running at 66C while everything else doesn't come above 55 Celcius. And I'm just typing this reply and being disturbed ever 30-45 seconds by some collegues with very important questions that can't have any delay. It now takes forever to type such a message....
Think I'm going to give them some attention
Personaly I think the trooubles in 10.5 are not so bad. I waited until 10.5.1 was out (according to some the worst version) and didn't have much trouble. Once or twice Safari closed on me while doing nothing special, I've had Mail crash about 3 times since januari, but it stored the email I was working on. No kernel panics, no major crashes.
How different it was when I was working on a Toshiba M100, ever month it needed a clean install of XP tablet, or twice a month was also no exception. I was compelled to work on the thing otherwise I would have thrown it in a junk bin from day three when I had a really fatal crash and couldn't get it to do anything.
I think leopard has it quirks, but is overall a fairly stable and nice working OS with some nice updates from the Tiger. Certainly after 5.2 it has been working like a charm.
Perhaps some people have trouble with the 8800, but that is IMHO not as much a leopard problem as more a "driver" problem for a specific part from the Macbook pro's.
Then again, I've also read some burning & flame-grilling on the 8600 but mine is working very good and stable although it is running at 66C while everything else doesn't come above 55 Celcius. And I'm just typing this reply and being disturbed ever 30-45 seconds by some collegues with very important questions that can't have any delay. It now takes forever to type such a message....
Think I'm going to give them some attention
I've been having some flash problems as well, now you speak of it, I got forwarded to the adobe site several times with the remark to update my flashplayer. Thought it to be a bit odd because I've got the flashplayer installed, but that could be indeed the problem.
For an inexpensive external RAID device, especially since they discontinued the xServe RAID. However, I believe that ZFS support will show up in Server long before your desktop.
I can't begin to count how many times I've had to rebuild an XP or Vista PC after an update, or after some software installs. Have never had that with OSX.
I don't think it's specific to OSX, as it is it's UNIX underpinnings. I managed a single DEC ALPHA-UNIX Database server for over 300 users. Never had issues. Vendor changed to Windows Server/SQL, and had daily reboots, patches, and problems...
I don't think it's specific to OSX, as it is it's UNIX underpinnings. I managed a single DEC ALPHA-UNIX Database server for over 300 users. Never had issues. Vendor changed to Windows Server/SQL, and had daily reboots, patches, and problems...
I don't know why anyone would say Leopard is so Disgraceful??? I think it is great being a new Mac user for about 8 months now. I bought my Mac with Tiger and loved it. Bought Leopard and loved it. I then bought my brother's iMac from him last month and did a full restore so I had to install Tiger and then upgrade to Leopard. Tiger seemed so old and outdated when I logged on to install Leopard.
I think Leopard is a lot better then Tiger (interface and features).
I think Leopard is a lot better then Tiger (interface and features).
i haven't read all the answers, and i'm sure my remark will anger some, and i know many of you have a computer skill level which greatly helped you cope with leopard but here it is 10.5.3 that so-called developers are "working" on and THEY ARE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS.....THIS JOBS HUSTLED AND CONNED YOU GUYS, HE SLICKED ALL OF YOU TO RUSH OUT LIKE A HOARD OF ANTS OVERWHELMING THE APPLE STORES TO BUY THIS LEOPARD OSX....and to have read what i think has been the largest amounts of complaints about this Leopard...and sure a lot of you could deal with this, some even had no problems--but the fact it that Jobs is hustling you guys, besides half s*** OSX system, he's also using cheap materials, my mbp15 2.0 the "innovative" magnetic power plug now falls off constantly because it was a totally stupid idea but Jobs con has been illusion in selling his products which are in the larger picture devolving into a clone of microsoft crap....i for one have no intention of buying anything else Apple....i know a lot of you have accepted Jobs con and think he's a god like person etcetc.....so many on these forums missed the pb12" and why the h*** didn't he just take the pb12" and shape it into a sortoflike MBA his buying crowd would have been a lot greater than what it is now.....he threw this hustling of his for slickly that he was able to pull the accessories like earphones, a connecting cord here and there, a power supply..and now how different is Apple now from the rest---not much if any in my opinion--he threw his cjips on being able to hustle the "mac community" egged on by all these mac sites and mags that go along with it and have no intention of saying it like it is.....i was stunned when i first bought the original mac mini and OSX Panther, and just could not believe how easy it was, how this brand gave added cords and the small stuffs....and now Apple to me is now different than Microsoft, this combining Microsoft OS and Mac OS on the same computer is going to end up a total disaster for all of you when suddenly out of nowhere "poof" waves of viruses and troijans will suddenly appear and cripple what you have....everyone keeps saying this oh apple has so small a market position etcetc. just wait---it will happen....I TURNED TO APPLE MAC OSX TO GET AWAY FROM THE TOTAL CRAP MICROSOFT IS ALL OF IT AND I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SO MANY COMBINE THE TWO YOUR ASKING FOR PROBLEMS when the bad guys start crippling this duality.....my .02 cents............................
That's quite a good rant but you might want to break it up a bit next time to make it more readable.
It doesn't matter, for something as CRITICAL as Flash, if Adobe is too inept to code it properly for the Mac, then Apple needs to send engineers over to Adobe to have them fix it.
Just like Microsoft offers engineering assistance to lots of other companies in the Windows ecosystem with "critical" apps.
If $teve doesn't want to pony up the dough and pay for more engineers then he's not going to go toe to toe in the real world market.
Update your flash players, don't wait for Apple to feed it to you via SU cos you'll be waiting a looong time
