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Agreed! No real problems here. For those that think Leopard is a "buggy mess" spend a week with vista, and you'll change your tune real quickly. geez:rolleyes:

Rigth, Vista certainly does make me cringe. But like any gem, Leopard needs that bit of polishing to make it shine. :cool:
 
Agreed! No real problems here. For those that think Leopard is a "buggy mess" spend a week with vista, and you'll change your tune real quickly. geez:rolleyes:
I've spent months with Vista and have never had a single issue with it. I've spent a week with Leopard and got a kernel panic.
 
It's funny how some really think Vista suck and how some think it works very well.

The same goes for Leopard it seems.
Some are very happy with it and some are having trouble.

I guess it boils down to what you do and in what circumstances you do it. And what combination of hardware you have. Down to the smallest bit. No two MacBooks are the same! :)

Computers are complicated.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the 10.5.3 update. I'm having some small issues, but nothing major, but things can always get better!
 
I have to admit I've yet to experience a single 'bug' with the actual Vista OS. Granted, some 3rd party applications and drivers don't work with it, crash w/some functions or lose some functionality altogether, as they don't meet the stringent security measures and compatibility requirements set forth by Microsoft. But Microsoft is under no obligation to make their OS compatible with all of your favorite applications and hardware. Doing that made previous Windows versions the insecure and unstable mess we've grown to hate. 3rd party developers need to bring their apps/drivers up to spec.

IMO, Microsoft is at fault for releasing the OS too early. They were also far too liberal with their hardware requirements; Vista needs a high powered CPU with a minimum of 2GB of RAM. Allowing Dell and alike to sell it on a Celeron/Duron box with 512MB of RAM was a ****ing absurdity.
 
More bug fixes is good news. Instability is not.

I hope Apple takes their sweet time with 10.5.3, and gets this release right.

Let's be honest: Leopard is a disgraceful, buggy mess. And it was released to the public way too early.

I don't want to wait until 10.5.6 to get things right, and I'm not expecting zero bugs. But Spaces still makes no sense, apps crash all the time, and there are just so many bugs. So, so many bugs.

I hope Apple takes another month or so, get a few more hundred bugs out of the way, and release a version of Leopard that is worthy of the Apple name.

What kinds of problems are you experiencing?

I use Spaces (4) all of the time. Virtual Desktops have been around for >20 years and for those of us who have lots of windows open, are a great organization tool.

I haven't noticed a single significant problem with Leopard but everyone's experience is different -- the type of applications, memory usage -- bad memory..., and the hardware. I've had a couple apps crash occasionally but so far no corruption or catastrophes.

I think Leopard is a resounding success.
 
I have to admit I've yet to experience a single 'bug' with the actual Vista OS. Granted, some 3rd party applications and drivers don't work with it, crash w/some functions or lose some functionality altogether, as they don't meet the stringent security measures and compatibility requirements set forth by Microsoft. But Microsoft is under no obligation to make their OS compatible with all of your favorite applications and hardware. Doing that made previous Windows versions the insecure and unstable mess we've grown to hate. 3rd party developers need to bring their apps/drivers up to spec.

IMO, Microsoft is at fault for releasing the OS too early. They were also far too liberal with their hardware requirements; Vista needs a high powered CPU with a minimum of 2GB of RAM. Allowing Dell and alike to sell it on a Celeron/Duron box with 512MB of RAM was a ****ing absurdity.
It's not absurdity, because Vista runs fine with 512 MB of RAM. Do you get Aero Glass? Maybe not, but Vista will still run. And my Dell laptop with only 1 GB of RAM runs Vista perfectly, and with full eye candy. And it is a Core Duo, too, at 1.66 GHz. A good processor, but not exactly a powerhouse.
 
My experiences with Vista have been enormously disappointing. I've tried it now on numerous occasions on various computers and i've been constantly unimpressed at just how much more lethargic it is compared to XP and how little I like the changes they made. That said, I do like Aero Glass a lot as a theme, and the WPF system seems pretty good... there is certainly no problem with how it looks IMHO.

Most recently I decided to cast aside my cynical opinion and install Vista on my work PC (Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, Intel Mobo, 3GB RAM) - after the initial joy of having a pretty OS again (after the dull greyness of XP) I just began to get thoroughly frustrated with it. Even after applying Service Pack 1 I didn't find it any better. I'd used it for about 4 months but when XPSP3 came out I knew it was time to do a clean build of that and go back to compare it. XP just works so so much better for me, for a computer on which I want maximum speed / resources to be as productive as possible.

I've tried a LOT to get on with Vista, but just continually find things which don't work right or where 'workarounds' have been put in place for things that should have never got where they were in the first place. The final straw was bugs in the sleep mode - whenever I woke the computer up, my second drive would keep going back to sleep again after 20 seconds or so of inactivity. Only a reboot would cure it.

Leopard has, in contrast, been an eye opening experience. As a long time Windows user, its a breath of fresh air using something just so well designed and well thought out. I adore it.
 
I'm using Vista and Leopard and don't have any problems with both of them. The only two problems I had was that Safari crashed all the time when using it with the latest Flash on 10.5.1 - this has been fixed in 10.5.2, so at the moment my Leopard works nearly perfect. The other problem I had seems not to be related to Leopard, which has been problems connecting to the WLAN of my school (shortly connected, then disconnected - when I connected manually I got the message the key was wrong). However, some of my school colleagues had the same problem (not to be able to connect to the WLAN) with Vista.
 
Does anybody know if this fixes the album artwork not showing in Front Row + iTunes when accessing a shared library?
 
[QUTOE] Psystar is merely an experiment, not even an annoyance.[/QUOTE]

While correct it does not justice to the importance of Psystar. Actual market impact is minimal now but mental impact is different. Like
  • Drives home to Apple the point not to neglegt the offerings at lower prices & w/o screen - influencing Apple's Mac mini roadmap
  • Will remind Apple that at a certain market share they can't cover sufficiently the necessary diverse hardware and they have to allow second sources.
  • Advertises to everyone that in theory it could be done which will
    • Make Apple more invest into defensive moves (patents, some propriatory extension)
    • Make other bystanders aware of their options and turn the into possible Apple suitors
    • Make Microsoft more aware just how easily the unthinkable could be pulled off.
 
I don't want to be rash and say "i'm moving back to tiger" because...

Being a Digidesign Pro Tools user I only wish it was possible to move back to Tiger. I have a brand new iMac here, bought solely to run Pro Tools. I can't, because the machine won't downgrade to Tiger...

Just hear what Digidesign's General Manager Dave Lebolt has to say;
As is often the case with entirely new major OS versions, there were some quick "dot" releases after introduction. Many of the problems that Apple addressed in these dot releases were critical to improve OS X Leopard operations (you can read about some of them on the support section of Apple's website). These improvements and fixes were very valuable to a broad base of Mac users. Unfortunately, the currently shipping OS X Leopard release, 10.5.2, contains some changes that actually caused problems with Pro Tools (and some other apps as well). In our case, the problems included audio interfaces not being recognized by the computer, track counts dropping to near zero, and errors coming up during normal operation. Some of you who may have experimented with Pro Tools and OS X Leopard 10.5.2 may have encountered some of these problems.

More here;
http://duc.digidesign.com/showflat....e=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=186&fpart=1#1259137
 
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