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Apple Continues to Gain Smartphone Market Share in U.S.
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There numbers are taken from a Survey. That's about as much info as anyone should need. Use the Kantar Numbers.
Depends on what period you are looking at. Kantar compared the quarter ending Feb 2013 with the year ago quarter ending Feb 2012 and saw a decrease. Comscore compared the quarter ending Feb 2013 to last quarter ending Nov 2012 and saw an increase.
Yep. That's what I said that Kantar shows.
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The Kantar numbers also come from surveys.
"comScore's data tracks installed user base rather than new handset sales, which means it is more reflective of real-world usage but slower to respond to shifting market trends than some other studies."
so both has some degree of truth... it's new Sales (Kantar) vs existing installed users/subscribers (comScore)...
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Ugh.
Ok it turns around when the S4 come out, then it turns around again when the 5S come out, then again with the Note 3, and on and on and on...
Ummm, not quite. This was a report for a quarter that Apple has had no new phone released and still the market share rose.
I am however confused as to why this comparison isn't showing the same time period/quarter one year apart, but is showing the quarter ending Nov. '12 against the quarter ending Feb. '13. Rubbery figures really get annoying to try and sift through.
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Up is down, left is right, white is black. What does the numbers show? Oh that Apple is gaining, then they are wrong.
So many conflicting reports about this, I don't know what to believe anymore.
It's always up then down then up. All I can say is where I am, I do see more droids and less apples. Sad really.
It's always up then down then up. All I can say is where I am, I do see more droids and less apples. Sad really.
Why because HTC has a phone with an aluminum back not going happen. HTC will sell more of those Facebook phones.
Wouldn't that also depend on the area(s) that were surveyed? If the survey was conducted in more affluent areas vs less affluent ones, then that can skew the survey results, no?
Ah yes... More iEgo stroking. Tbh, sometimes I think that no matter who is releasing these figures and no matter whether they have a bias or not, it just seems like all these numbers are skewed and contradict each other from day to day.
I'll admit something very stupid: I'm one if those consumers that doesn't really care how the company behind the product is doing. (With exceptions, of course - cars, products that cost thousands...)
If I like it (and I can afford it) I'll buy it.
I'll admit something very stupid: I'm one if those consumers that doesn't really care how the company behind the product is doing. (With exceptions, of course - cars, products that cost thousands...)
If I like it (and I can afford it) I'll buy it.
Agreed, I suspect so... but at the same time we can make an assumption that both companies are good at taking surveys.
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What's wrong with questioning with what the "facts" are?
Someone gaining market share has zero benefits for an individual user/consumer. Your phone/tablet isn't going to stop working at a couple % ultimately isn't a huge deal.
But two completely different stats begs some questioning and researching.
How is this possible when iOS is closed and Android is open?
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And where do Kantar's numbers come from? Since we don't really have good shipment data from anyone outside of Apple how can we reall believe any of these numbers? It's all guesses and estimates
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And where do Kantar's numbers come from? Since we don't really have good shipment data from anyone outside of Apple how can we reall believe any of these numbers? It's all guesses and estimates
I wonder why comScore does not provide the sample size for this survey and what the margins of error are.
Hardly think that can be construed as "blindly" defending when he cites different statistics
So HTC losing 1.7% share is a slight drop yet Android losing 2% is significant. No bias there.
Hardly think that can be construed as "blindly" defending when he cites different statistics
Well, dismissing Comscores numbers because they are from surveys and promoting Kantar's numbers, even though they are also from surveys seems pretty blind to me.
I guess he's just talking about himself with Apple.
I've read much better "blind" defenses on this forum! YOU CAN DO BETTER PEOPLE!
