You have plenty of time to cancel your imaginary order, that machine isn’t available until February.
Not sure why people always think these fake order posts are so clever.
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Apple Continues to Work on All-New Mac Pro With Upgradeable Design
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Not sure why people always think these fake order posts are so clever.
Funny how Apple never ever will speculate on future releases, but they can't stop talking about the "future" MacPro. Obvisously, they messed up so royally they have destroyed the very secret fabric that holds the company together. I think it the first time we are starting to see some skid marks on the Apple teflon shine..
Not sure this takes so much...work. Really this is about case design and ensuring contracts. It should not take years and years. If they don't do anything fancy they could have this out in short order.
If the Apple MacPro does not blow away the "iMac Pro", then the whole "Pro" line ends up looking ridiculous. That being said the "Mac Pro" had better start at a price point half that of the "iMac Pro", which is too high.
It would be a VERY non-Apple move to leave the G5-tower version of the Mac Pro along side of the Cylindrical Mac Pro. It's like Chevy continuing to sell last-year's Impala next to the new one. It really doesn't happen very often. And yes, I know they do it with iPads and iPhones; but those are FAR less "different" year-over-year.
I don't know if you saw the article; but the RAM in the iMac Pro IS Upgrade-able; but only by an Apple Service Center. But it IS upgrade-able.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/14/imac-pro-ram-upgrade-apple/
"With the iMac Pro release dominating headlines on Thursday, we want to highlight that Apple also reiterated some other exciting news for pro customers: a modular Mac Pro is in the works."
Wow... too little too late. The entire Apple team is so stubborn...
THey remember that they have people that use computers... not just iphones... wow!!
And if they are planning to charge $5000 like the iMac pro, forget it....
"I think we designed ourselves into a bit of a thermal corner, if you will," said Federighi, according to multiple reports.
Only now Federighi after many years, acknowledge that the Mac Pro was a failure. Really?? it took how many years to realize that?
Part of the problem there is Apple themselves dropped the ball and did not do much to support dual GPUs.
It may seem that way at first glance, but AIO computers really do fall into a category of their own and are not anything like a laptop.
AIOs have far more room than a laptop does and have superior thermal management. That certainly was not the case 7 years ago, but a lot has changed since then. The new iMac Pro is a prime example of that. Apple was able to engineer an incredibly powerful system into a 27" AIO enclosure. Laptops are not close in their abilities, they are vastly far away from the capabilities that Apple's new Pro AIO brings.
A new age of AIOs has definitely arrived.
Niether will I. I really dont think Apple gets the desktop market at all. For one it is price sensitive. But they also mis that one of the primary reasons not to buy a lapyop these days is the flexibility desktop machines offer. Pretty much by definition if somebody is looking at a desktop machine these days they are doing so to achieve something that cant be had in a laptop.
In any event im actually hoping that todays Mac Pro becomes tomorrows Mini replacement. I actually like the current Mac Pros design i just think its configuration and marketing focus is all wrong. Put an AMD or Intel APU type chip in there with an optional and decent video card and you would have the ultimate in a desktop computer for professionals that simply dont need a Xeon based machine. Oh and dont screw up storage like the Mac Pto did, we need plenty of internal storage, this includes a slot of another SSD.
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I have a feeling they are planning something a little more innovative than a bunch of bolted-in stuff with a forest of ribbons.
Couldn't help but notice Phil exchanged the tired, old "pipeline" comment for "horizon line".
I don't think the Mac Pro needs to blow away the iMac Pro at all. I'd be happy with the specs of a mid-configured iMac Pro. But the reason I'm not going for it now is that I would prefer to get the same specs in a mid-configured Mac Pro, and then be able to buy an 8k 32" (or similar sized) screen for it. And, on top, have the knowledge that I can relatively easily upgrade the graphics and/or RAM and/or SSD in two or three years time. That's worth a premium to me as I could then expect the machine to last 5-6 years rather than 3 or so.
My current iMac (first day Retina maxed out) is absolutely fine at the moment, three years old, and will last me another year if I'm careful. SSD space is the only thing I really struggle with.
My current iMac (first day Retina maxed out) is absolutely fine at the moment, three years old, and will last me another year if I'm careful. SSD space is the only thing I really struggle with.
I can't tell if people are happy about this or not. I am not a macOS user, but I would imagine this is good news for professionals that need this sort of set up.
There are MANY products, most NON-cylindrical, that have a "Chimney"-style Forced-air cooling system. Some are more conservative designs than others, and tend to do better overall.
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of users waiting on this machine are not professionals.
An iMac isn't for everyone.
[doublepost=1513359517][/doublepost]There's no such word as 'architected'! Back to school for someone.
With the iMac Pro release dominating headlines on Thursday, we want to highlight that Apple also reiterated some other exciting news for pro customers: a modular Mac Pro is in the works.
2013 Mac Pro on left vs. 2012 Mac Pro on right
The brief mention came at the very end of Apple's press release about the iMac Pro becoming available to order:While this isn't new information, it does let us know that Apple remains committed to an all-new, powerful Mac Pro with an upgradeable design after first teasing the news to a group of reporters back in April.
We don't know what the new Mac Pro will look like, but given it will be a modular system, Apple could return to a tower design like the 2006 to 2012 Mac Pro with a case that could be opened with a lever on the back.
The promise that it will be a high-performance, high-throughput system suggests the modular Mac Pro could be even faster than the iMac Pro, which itself is easily the fastest Mac ever with workstation-class tech specs.
The maxed-out iMac Pro, for example, costs $13,199 and is equipped with an 18-core 2.3GHz Intel Xeon W-class processor, 4TB of SSD storage, 128GB of ECC RAM, and AMD Radeon Pro Vega 64 graphics with 16GB of HBM2 memory.
It's also good news for customers who were sad to see Apple discontinue its standalone Thunderbolt Display, which will be revived in the form of an all-new Apple-branded high-end display geared towards pro customers.
Apple's discontinued Thunderbolt Display
What we also don't know is when the new Mac Pro is coming. Apple only revealed that it wouldn't be ready this year. It could certainly be released at some point in 2018, or it could take a little bit longer--it's anyone's guess right now.
Apple hasn't updated the current Mac Pro in just shy of four years, beyond reshuffling some configurations and pricing back in April.
At the time, Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi admitted that the 2013 Mac Pro's so-called "trash can" design has a limited thermal capacity that doesn't always meet the needs of the most demanding workflows.
"I think we designed ourselves into a bit of a thermal corner, if you will," said Federighi, according to multiple reports.
It isn't often that Apple pre-announces new products in its pipeline, but there were growing concerns the company was no longer focused on professional users, evidently to the point that it felt the need to respond in a big way.
"We're committed to the Mac, we've got great talent on the Mac, both hardware and software, we've got great products planned for the future, and as far as our horizon line can see, the Mac is a core component of the things Apple delivers, including to our pro customers," said Apple's marketing chief Phil Schiller.
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EVERY machine has a "limited thermal capacity". It just depends on what that particular "limit" is...
I wish they'd build a 2017/2018 version of it. G6. I want drive bays. Slots for graphic cards, etc. I'd like lots of ports on the back and front. And please, a starting price of $2199.00.
I don't understand Apple these days. $5000 entry price for an imac?
Unless you're doing some incredibly big photo work, or video, a graphic designer/photographer just doesn't need these monster machines like the trash can mac pro or $5000 imacs. In my opinion.
Personally, I felt the trash can mac pro a step back. It's speed did nothing to impress me. I wasn't a customer who needed that. I needed a G6 with slightly updated processing and options I could upgrade myself.
I'll buy my own monitor, thank you.
And what about a truly capable mac mini? Why did Apple cripple the mac mini?
My last tower was a G3 which I still have. It still works. But it sits here unused because all the new software I use won't work on it.
So I use a 2015 macbook pro. I have two akitio towers connected to it for storage and back up. I have a nec monitor connected to it. It works. But there are better solutions. I'd like to add more ram. Not be limited to 16gb. I would like an ethernet port. I could use another usb 3 port or maybe 2.
Ok. I'll stop kvetching. I wish apple would pay attention to real need. Day to day use. And stop making minimal machines. As a graphic designer, photographer, i need what I need. Minimalism in my imagery. Not in the tools I use to create.
I agree. But the form factor is more like a laptop and the assembly of parts is more like one. At least that is how I see it. I realize a typical laptop has even less space, but isn’t that as much a result of it not typically having a 21” let alone 27” screen?
It works great. It just doesn't scale. You'd have to build a much larger enclosure to go dual CPU.