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Apple Continuing to Investigate iOS 5 Battery Issues
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Updated to 5.0.1
No improvement on battery performance compared to my iPhone 4 running iOS4.
Since my last full charge...
Usage: 1 hour, 55 minutes
Standby: 3 hours, 17 minutes
Battery at 74%
I've had push email on, moderate use, notifications on for some apps, wifi on, setting time zone off, location-based iAds off.
No improvement on battery performance compared to my iPhone 4 running iOS4.
Since my last full charge...
Usage: 1 hour, 55 minutes
Standby: 3 hours, 17 minutes
Battery at 74%
I've had push email on, moderate use, notifications on for some apps, wifi on, setting time zone off, location-based iAds off.
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Question for you guys. I am one of the people suffering bad battery (28% after 2 hours 24 min usage, and 18 hours 36 stand-by). Not as bad as some of you, but I still can't stand it. This is my first smart phone, and my old LG dare lasted me a week with a charge. I can't get through the work day without it dying...so my question is, if I bought this phone at Verizon, can I go to an apple store and get an exchange for a new phone?
Question for you guys. I am one of the people suffering bad battery (28% after 2 hours 24 min usage, and 18 hours 36 stand-by). Not as bad as some of you, but I still can't stand it. This is my first smart phone, and my old LG dare lasted me a week with a charge. I can't get through the work day without it dying...so my question is, if I bought this phone at Verizon, can I go to an apple store and get an exchange for a new phone?
More than likely, yeah. All Apple hardware is warrantied by Apple, regardless of where you got it from. You should just be able to walk in and get a switch.
Fortunately, I do not face any battery drains whatsoever and I am using IOS 5! iPhone 4S 64GB, Model number: MD258F, Serial number starts with DN, No yellow tint in the screen but compared to iphone 4 slightly washed out colours. I feel my iphone 4S display colours are accurate!
My settings are
Brightness slightly above the default level
Email Push/Fetch disabled
Location Service OFF
Usage: 8 hours 10 mins (and still 1% left)
Standby: 1 Day 11 Hours
Calls made and received: approx 25
Maximum call duration: 1 hour 30 mins
Wifi: connected 24/7
Games: Approx 2 hours (total usage)
Music: Approx 13-15hours (total usage)
Camera: less than 2 hours video and still (total usage)
Internet browsing: using 3G - less than 6 hours
Internet browsing: using wifi 10 hours approx (total usage)
Music played using loudspeaker: less than an hour (total usage)
Siri: less than 2 hours (total usage) but always enabled (Raise to speak disabled)
+ Ive used other apps as well...
I check emails manually every once in 3 hours (not when i sleep
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Heading into the apple store now, I'll let you guys know what they say
EDIT: Ok so I needed an appointment. So I made one for tomorrow afternoon :/. They better give me a new one, or else my 30 days are up
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Heading into the apple store now, I'll let you guys know what they say
EDIT: Ok so I needed an appointment. So I made one for tomorrow afternoon :/. They better give me a new one, or else my 30 days are up
That's pretty good considering what other peoples battery life has been.
I have also seen much better battery life during standby, and during use. I think this update helped my 4S just fine.
After fully charging last night, I unplugged and left it on overnight (no apps running). At 8:30 am this morning, I was at 97%.
It's now about 8:30 pm and I'm still at 75% with 3:25 of usage time and standby of 1 day, 0 hours.
Let's see how it does with a more normal day of usage tomorrow!
It's now about 8:30 pm and I'm still at 75% with 3:25 of usage time and standby of 1 day, 0 hours.
Let's see how it does with a more normal day of usage tomorrow!
Yes thats very good...would be happy about that 9 times out of 10.
Yesterday I had similar to that..i had
6 hours, 45 minutes usage
1 day, 2 hours standy
People do realize that different users have different usage behaviours.
Reading emails and browsing simple webpages is different than watching youtube videos. Different usage behaviours will result in different usage statistics.
Comparing that "Usage/Standby" statistic without further details about the nature of that usage isn't very meaningful.
Also, iOS 5 has more user configurable settings that relate to processes running in the background. Try limiting the number of apps the use features such as the new notifications features.
Turn off any settings that are unneeded that may contribute to higher resource use via more processes running in the background
Every process that is running on your device contributes to reduced battery life.
Reading emails and browsing simple webpages is different than watching youtube videos. Different usage behaviours will result in different usage statistics.
Comparing that "Usage/Standby" statistic without further details about the nature of that usage isn't very meaningful.
Also, iOS 5 has more user configurable settings that relate to processes running in the background. Try limiting the number of apps the use features such as the new notifications features.
Turn off any settings that are unneeded that may contribute to higher resource use via more processes running in the background
Every process that is running on your device contributes to reduced battery life.
Sadly that doesn't say much - it all depend on what "Usage" was.
Playing certain video, for example, you could pretty much drain the battery in four hours. The specs say "up to 10 hours". Hard usage of the cellular interface could also do it. The specs say "up to 6 hours" for "Internet use" over "3G". Even without the battery draining bugs that some are experiencing, they can't do the impossible. The specs are here: iPhone 4 specs
If on the other hand that is the result after has letting it do nothing, it is obvious that something is not sleeping as it should and is eating up your battery time. If you would like to help getting this fixed, you could file a bug report on https://bugreport.apple.com. They will probably send you back a profile that enables power logging, and you will send them back the logs.
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Indeed, good put!
I have to disagree a bit with this one though. I can't think of any of the built in features that should really have an impact on battery life, except for WiFi/3G/Bluetooth enabled/disabled.
Even most third party apps shouldn't have an impact.
If they are correctly written, they should all be to do their things in milliseconds per day, and that shouldn't be noticeable.
Then there are bugs, in both apple software and 3:rd party software, and that could certainly drain battery. To find those, you could certainly try to disable them and perform a systematic search, but I have still not seen anyone that has actually found a confirmed battery hog in iOS 5 this way.
Then there may also be other problems with some phones - for example some report that their phone never gets charged to 100 %, or that the time for charging from 25 to 100 % seems suspiciously short (like minutes when it should rather be hours). That sound like a hardware problem, or at least a battery charging software problem.
Thanks for the info. I did a reset on all my settings and now I'm running the battery down all the way to set it up for a recharge.
Solution?
I did a complete restore on my iPhone 4 to a stock 5.0.1. I did not restore my iCloud info for fear the issue would come back, in case it was an app issue. After the restore and setting everything back up, I am getting a 1% drain for every hour of standby. This is what I was getting under iOS 4, under iOS 5 I was greeting a 5% to 10% drop an hour.
If you want to restore from iCloud:
1) Restore through iTunes
2) setup the phone (I had a problem where the restore from iCloud backup was not offered)
3) once you have completed the setup wizard go to General -> Reset -> erase all data and settings
4) complete the wizard again and choose, restore from iCloud (not recommended by me
It seems to solve my problems, hopefully it helps you as well.
I did a complete restore on my iPhone 4 to a stock 5.0.1. I did not restore my iCloud info for fear the issue would come back, in case it was an app issue. After the restore and setting everything back up, I am getting a 1% drain for every hour of standby. This is what I was getting under iOS 4, under iOS 5 I was greeting a 5% to 10% drop an hour.
If you want to restore from iCloud:
1) Restore through iTunes
2) setup the phone (I had a problem where the restore from iCloud backup was not offered)
3) once you have completed the setup wizard go to General -> Reset -> erase all data and settings
4) complete the wizard again and choose, restore from iCloud (not recommended by me
It seems to solve my problems, hopefully it helps you as well.
Yeah, I'm kinda annoyed not just with Apple's slowness, but this tech-industry-wide backsliding in deemed acceptability. First, on my early 2011 MacBook Pro, there came choppy graphics due to beta-level drivers and a weak Lion build.
Apple is obviously not the only company doing this, but I'd love to see hard and software makers actually ironing out their products before release, and not using their customers as beta-testers.
But hey, this is capitalism, so it all ends up being our fault as consumers for buying these devices when we know damn well this will be the case
It does suck, but suprisingly micrsoft actually did a really good job ironing out all the bugs in windows 7 before release. Heck even the beta was rock solid. Maybe apple will start open betas like Micrsoft did (no need to be a developer) and accept feedback.
The genius bar at my local Apple Store (thankfully just 15 min away) feels like home away from home
I've always believed in not personalizing any issues I may experience, (ie: I don't go there all angry) therefore I'm always greeted in a friendly manor. After all, there's no point in losing you're sense of humor over an inaniment object.
In fact they know me so well every genius in the place greets me by name. Last year they cheerfully replaced 4 iPhone 4's for failed home buttons, and so far this year I'm on my third BatteryGate Special.
It's like the annual lease on my daily driver, take it back at the end of the year and get a new one. The only difference is the iPhones I've had, after the ever so reliable & exemplary 3GS, only last a few months.
Apple... Ya Gotta Love Em
down to 15% battery since upgrading on thursday so 3 days of use is pretty good for me. we will see what happens tho when it goes to 0% and do a full recharge.
Might want to just wait till Apple fixes the software problem before you exchange iPhones uselessly. In your case, it's obviously something to do with your combination of settings and applications.
So, none of the apps that may be configured to use notifications in the background use Wifi/3G/Bluetooth?
Doesn't the phone have to come out of standby to receive notifications for networked apps?
MSN messenger will prompt with notifications while the screen is locked. It must use the network to query for any new incoming messages.
How many apps can be configured to fit this same pattern as MSN messenger? FaceTime, iMessage, Mail, Skype, ....
More apps seem to be configured to use notifications and related services in iOS 5 in comparison to earlier versions.
I also wonder if the iCloud feature for automatically downloading new content may be a factor affecting some users battery life.
The extent of the impact of these apps is determined by the manner in which the app is configured by the user.
There is a lot more networked processes running in the background in iOS 5.
Given that iOS is still fairly recently released, a software bug may be a factor as well, especially in combination with the info above.
Obviously, for some users, any issue could be due to a hardware problem.
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As an iPhone 4S newbie coming from an android htc incredible, i think some of these battery issues would either go away or diminish if only apple would move away from trying to make the slimmest possible phones and either redesign the case for a battery of at least twice the current capacity or make removable case backs of different sizes in which you could insert batteries of different sizes.
i wouldn't mind if the iphone were half again as thick and if the back were not glass, but some easy to grip resilient material that could absorb a drop and protect the innards.
I like my new iPhone and some of its features, but I think as a manufactured product, it is more suitable for indoor use where the floors are all covered in thick, plush carpeting.
i wouldn't mind if the iphone were half again as thick and if the back were not glass, but some easy to grip resilient material that could absorb a drop and protect the innards.
I like my new iPhone and some of its features, but I think as a manufactured product, it is more suitable for indoor use where the floors are all covered in thick, plush carpeting.