Thank God for websites like Swappa and eBay. I probably wouldn’t be able to afford Apple products. I cannot remember the last time I purchased a brand new Apple product at full price.
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Apple COO Jeff Williams 'Very Aware Of' Concerns Over Apple Product Cost
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Apple's greed excuse machine is a force to be reckoned with.
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Prices at the lower end isn't helping either. The market they're targeting the XR with aren't exactly buying the XR either.
You can buy an iPhone 7, or a much cheaper Android. Apple is not a monopoly in smartphone business. The same for laptops and especially speakers. Plenty of cheaper alternatives. You pick the Apple ecosystem by your own volition.
I used to always buy new, but with the latest prices I only look at refurbs (15% off) or lightly used with good battery capacity. You can get a lot of phone for $350-$600.
Oh? Is he aware of keyboards failing in less than a year for laptops that they sell for $2k+?
I've already bought my last apple products. Macbook pro? Too expensive and doesn't work well. Iphone? Give me a break.
I'll keep buying used or no name. osx used to be reliable to the point of insanity, now it's garbage. windows 10 is better.
I'll keep buying used or no name. osx used to be reliable to the point of insanity, now it's garbage. windows 10 is better.
People are just not buying phones as often anymore. I’ve met people in the 1% and many are still sporting older iPhones as those meet their needs just fine. Heck, I defer my XR purchase because iOS 12 brings new breath to my 6S. That’s the reality, and Apple should’ve known this as this is exactly what happened to the computer business. Nobody is upgrading their computers every 2 or 3 years, let alone on a yearly basis. Computers from 5+ years ago are still sufficient for most consumer tasks.
Thus the need for services as a constant revenue stream. That’s why Microsoft is pushing Office 365 over their older business model. And that’s imo maybe why investors are valuing Microsoft higher in overall value, as they already have a solution for their business model moving forward. Apple meanwhile has not shown any solid services lineup other than Apple Music.
the new samsung costs $2000 if anything we can only blame apple for making it seem normal not being the only culprit. It's a free market if you don't buy it they will stop making it.
I’m not defending Apple, but I don’t like the statement “... for a phone.” They’re not just phones anymore. Most spend more time doing day to day activities on their “phones” than they do on a desktop or laptop. Apple has always commanded a higher price. The Macintosh Performa 600 we got in 1993 would be nearly $3400 today. The original iPod would be roughly $750 today just to play music. Apple has always been expensive, even that basic white plastic MacBook would be about $1400 today. That’s not too far off form a MacBook Pro today or a $1200 MacBook Air, is it?
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The statement the contradicts reality is referring to the iPhone XS Max as the starting point of Apple’s new phones. It’s completely disingenuous. Will they say that Samsung’s new phones start at 1900 or that Oppo’s Phones start at 2600. No. Actually there was not even a blink on these sights at those prices. Twice the price of an iPhone. And they still fail to match the processor, 3D tech and security of the Even just the XS. If Apple had shown a phone that folded from the size of a credit card to an 12.9 inch IPad for $1500 these same people would loose their minds. It’s comical at best.
What?! LMFAO! That's all Apple's ever been!!! They didn't get to a TRILLION dollar valuation by pricing their products realistically!
What really makes me angry is that they build such a nice Mac Mini even with really well designed cooling for the SSD, which most other systems ignore, and then ruin it for most people with that pricing scheme. You can‘t explain why you should pay more to a system builder for that SSD/M.2 than you would when buying a single unit in a shop yourself.
Apple could have shown their technical design skills and care for detail once more. What could work well if they sold more of those machines. What would work well if they opted for a reasonable pricing approach.
They did fail similarly once already. They had to sell off the cubes at a fraction :/ Mac Pro now has even outdated TB2, who will buy those, even for a fraction?
Well if that’s really the case the reduction of their revenue should be off the charts in proportion to their arrogance. I don’t know how many customers they have left but enough of them bought to the tune of $84b dollars last quarter.
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It does make me feel better that you realize since Jobs came back Apple has been that company and didn’t start from 2011.
I wasn't discounting the small handheld computer I use every day. I appreciate all that goes into it. I just believe that the pubic at large is not going to pay the big prices from Apple, Sammy or others.
I don't have a problem paying for quality. It is one of the reasons I have paid the Apple premium. Maybe it is time for Apple to slow the new release cycle down a little.
This I don't think is a very good argument. It's a legitimate complaint, that they ignore specific products, but that doesn't have to do with care that's actually put into those products. If anything, it shows that they won't develop a product just for the hell of it.
What justifies them is they subsidize the cost of the base model. Apple can reduce the price intervals between models, but to maintain margin they would just raise the price of the base model.
Apple is beginning to exhibit the same business practices they exhibited with Macintosh computers in the 90s. They're pricing themselves out of the mainstream. If they go too far they'll price themselves out of relevance. It'll take time, sure, but it can certainly happen.
See ya. Maybe you can leave this forum too now. Yeah?
And Windows 10 being better than MacOS is just laughable.
After running our iPhones into the ground (the newest one we have is a 6), it's evident to me that it's time to get new ones for my whole family (of five). I am not looking forward to that bill.
So you folks want Apple to “innovate” and include the latest technology in your iPad Minis, but give you older function key technology in your MacBook Pros. Got it....
Well, the good news is if his gig at Apple doesn't work out, he's got a fine career in the pharmaceutical industry waiting for him.