You're right. That's the niche Apple has carved out though, and kudos to them for being successful that way.
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Apple Corrects iPad Promo Video to Show No Flash Capability
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You're right. That's the niche Apple has carved out though, and kudos to them for being successful that way.
Embarrassing?
Embarrassing? For whom? For you? Did you create the iPad, or have anything to do with the announcement event? If not, why in the world is it embarrassing, unless you're trying to push shame on them, and I would find it odd that anyone would be pushing shame around like that.
Perhaps Apple simply believes that Flash isn't the best the web has to offer, so ignoring that part of the web is merely their steering clear of all the potholes on the road (terrible analogy I know!).
Embarrassing? For whom? For you? Did you create the iPad, or have anything to do with the announcement event? If not, why in the world is it embarrassing, unless you're trying to push shame on them, and I would find it odd that anyone would be pushing shame around like that.
Perhaps Apple simply believes that Flash isn't the best the web has to offer, so ignoring that part of the web is merely their steering clear of all the potholes on the road (terrible analogy I know!).
Can everyone please start using the terminology: "Blue legos of arrogance?"
I made it up first (I think), and I'd love to se it become the defacto standard when talking about this specific problem with the paddy. Don't you think it has a nice, accurate ring to it? (and I promise it will remain open-source and I won't charge for usage or trademark it, or try to steal it from fujitsu....)
Hummm... free TV on HULU as a web pothole... everyone against HULU shows, raise your hand...
Umm, last I checked Flash supports H.264. Flash is a development environment and a player not a codec.
Besides, Flash problems aren't limited to video. Non-video Flash applications are just as buggy and slow on Macs.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Flash. But let's not gloss over the fact that there are bigger reasons for Apple's opposition to Flash besides its performance issues.
I can't really complain about that. Then again they try to play off some big epic battle against Microsoft when that war was done years ago. The illusion is quaint but people take it rather seriously.
I would be the type to buy the iPad the second it comes out.
But, without Flash, it's a dud.
I don't care about Jobs' feud with Adobe, and I don't care about the few greasy geeks who hate Flash because they have nothing else in their lives to focus on.
If much of the internet is unavailable on the iPad, particularly a part which is often the most creative and fun, then the iPad is a joke.
The moment the general public gets a whiff of this, the upcoming Androids will start looking better, especially if they manage to copy the best of the iPad's UI in a hurry. Only an idiot would buy an iPad to browse the web.
No Flash, No Sale.
But, without Flash, it's a dud.
I don't care about Jobs' feud with Adobe, and I don't care about the few greasy geeks who hate Flash because they have nothing else in their lives to focus on.
If much of the internet is unavailable on the iPad, particularly a part which is often the most creative and fun, then the iPad is a joke.
The moment the general public gets a whiff of this, the upcoming Androids will start looking better, especially if they manage to copy the best of the iPad's UI in a hurry. Only an idiot would buy an iPad to browse the web.
No Flash, No Sale.
Adobe is not the only one. Take Microsoft for example. Office and Messenger; They are crippled versions of the Windows version.
Office: A piece of crap that takes a minute to launch!
Messenger: Ugliest same interface and I'm waiting for webcam support for ages. There's a version 8.0 beta circling since February of 2009 and they say will be ready in March of this year.
It was no accident
Apple knew exactly what they were doing "supposedly" a accidentally or embarrassingly having broken flash pages show up in the Keynote demo by S Jobs.
Come on people a company like Apple and a person like S Jobs DOES NOT turn up to a major major keynote and make an accidental blunder like that ... Monkey boy maybe .. but not S Jobs.
They would have been practising that keynote and demo for weeks. In my opinion it was all a 100% calculated PAUSE where he just stops at the broken flash page and says nothing... even the pulled flash promo video was probably calculated.. all designed to say STUFF flash lets move on and get rid of it .. we "Apple" no longer care about flash and are not playing with Adobe.
100% intentional , 100% calculated.
Apple knew exactly what they were doing "supposedly" a accidentally or embarrassingly having broken flash pages show up in the Keynote demo by S Jobs.
Come on people a company like Apple and a person like S Jobs DOES NOT turn up to a major major keynote and make an accidental blunder like that ... Monkey boy maybe .. but not S Jobs.
They would have been practising that keynote and demo for weeks. In my opinion it was all a 100% calculated PAUSE where he just stops at the broken flash page and says nothing... even the pulled flash promo video was probably calculated.. all designed to say STUFF flash lets move on and get rid of it .. we "Apple" no longer care about flash and are not playing with Adobe.
100% intentional , 100% calculated.
Adobe should simply tell Steve that they will no longer be making Mac versions of Photoshop or Creative Suite. After all Intel Mac's can boot into Windows. What is the big deal?
Bingo. Flash on the iPad.
Bingo. Flash on the iPad.
Is this the new Flash you are talking about?
http://blog.pavlov.net/2010/01/27/firefox-for-maemo-rc3/
One can only hope ( I wouldn't underestimate the toll the anti-rejection drugs are possibly having on his cognitive abilities)... but without anything better to offer than the blue legos of arrogance, incomplete and somewhat pathetic... (strike that... very incomplete and very pathetic)
Word.
When markets are the battlefield, marketing becomes the ordnance--doesn't mean it's always on target.
I'm glad we were able to agree.
I understand Apple's niche(s) but good lord I want to buy things from them too.
What is your point?
Seriously, what is your point? Is Hulu the best the web has to offer, is that your point? If so, fine, that's *your* opinion. Personally, I've never used Hulu, and I watch all the television I want, in fact I watch it all for free (on an AppleTV no less!). So, what is your point?
Is your point that Flash is so important that you'd spend an entire day on a non-Flash site talking about how supporting Flash is so utterly important to life that a product will fail if it doesn't support Flash? Is that it?
BTW, how would your experience on this site today have been on an iPad? Would it have suffered without that so important Flash support?
As I've said I don't have a problem that you don't like v1 of this product, but ffs, stop this juvenile attitude and let's discuss what will make it great v2 and beyond, because there must be some interest on your part for this product, otherwise I'd think what idiot would spend so much time on a site bitching about a product he had *no* interest in whatsoever?
Seriously, what is your point? Is Hulu the best the web has to offer, is that your point? If so, fine, that's *your* opinion. Personally, I've never used Hulu, and I watch all the television I want, in fact I watch it all for free (on an AppleTV no less!). So, what is your point?
Is your point that Flash is so important that you'd spend an entire day on a non-Flash site talking about how supporting Flash is so utterly important to life that a product will fail if it doesn't support Flash? Is that it?
BTW, how would your experience on this site today have been on an iPad? Would it have suffered without that so important Flash support?
As I've said I don't have a problem that you don't like v1 of this product, but ffs, stop this juvenile attitude and let's discuss what will make it great v2 and beyond, because there must be some interest on your part for this product, otherwise I'd think what idiot would spend so much time on a site bitching about a product he had *no* interest in whatsoever?
ipad was marketed as a media consumption device
hulu is the epitome of that and yet cant be done
hulu is the epitome of that and yet cant be done
Ha Ha
Are you kidding, what Platform do a massive amount of film, TV, media, art houses all use .... I'll give you a hint it's NOT PC's it's Macs.
These are all major major buyers of Adobe's Mac versions of this software, they cant afford to thumb their noses at a heap of their major customers.
Simple, thats why Adobe can't just can their Mac versions
Adobe should simply tell Steve that they will no longer be making Mac versions of Photoshop or Creative Suite. After all Intel Mac's can boot into Windows. What is the big deal?
Bingo. Flash on the iPad.
Are you kidding, what Platform do a massive amount of film, TV, media, art houses all use .... I'll give you a hint it's NOT PC's it's Macs.
These are all major major buyers of Adobe's Mac versions of this software, they cant afford to thumb their noses at a heap of their major customers.
Simple, thats why Adobe can't just can their Mac versions
Die
Flash? DIE, DIE, DIE, DIE ,DIE, DIE 1000 DEATHS! Why prolong the inevitable, that Flash will indeed die. Anything that any company can do to hasten that is OK in my book. I encode video, fyi. As for ad banners, do I really want to make life easier for those that post/create adverts? No, don't care. They will figure out a way, they always do.
Flash? DIE, DIE, DIE, DIE ,DIE, DIE 1000 DEATHS! Why prolong the inevitable, that Flash will indeed die. Anything that any company can do to hasten that is OK in my book. I encode video, fyi. As for ad banners, do I really want to make life easier for those that post/create adverts? No, don't care. They will figure out a way, they always do.
I see a lot of presumption preceeds conclusion here.
Blu-Ray? Yes. Today. Why is Apple not bringing it too? A couple of reasons. The licensing agreement is objectionable to Apple. It was not changed, there was no Apple exception. They have heard Apple's objections and both parties remain steady. Why else? I have seen a Blu-Ray movie (played off a disc). You know what's better? The same movie played from a file not a spinning plastic disc.
How about shift DVD's and Blu-Ray discs to HD with consent of the studios so Apple will bless it too. We're close. Steve in his role at Disney has a personal effort to get buy once, play anywhere on anything licensing going. Industry wide. In fact in investor circles this effort is so progressed it would not be at all surprising if this was an iPad release time announcement.
HD movie store. 3D movie store. Displays for 3D viewing and incidentally HD viewing. Apple gives you 3D end to end for the home. We're going to need some storage space!
Enter Apple Server Farm. All your content, all your files, all your backups. Uploaded and downloaded in the background. Keep a couple of movies and several shows on your iPad. The server converts the files to optimum viewing resolution for each target device. You log target devices.
Get ready. Hang on. Yes Apple is a closed system and the iPad while a computer is not positioned as a computer. It is a mobile interface to your content and even your primary computer. It's different thinking. It's different task management. I'ts so different it is easier, more fun, and as we adjust, more productive for a wide variety of work tasks too.
Think different. It's literal.
Rocketman
iDream
iPad HD (hypothetical)
1920 x 1080
163 ppi
Display 11.77 x 6.63"
Case 12.3 x 7.2
Blu-Ray? Yes. Today. Why is Apple not bringing it too? A couple of reasons. The licensing agreement is objectionable to Apple. It was not changed, there was no Apple exception. They have heard Apple's objections and both parties remain steady. Why else? I have seen a Blu-Ray movie (played off a disc). You know what's better? The same movie played from a file not a spinning plastic disc.
How about shift DVD's and Blu-Ray discs to HD with consent of the studios so Apple will bless it too. We're close. Steve in his role at Disney has a personal effort to get buy once, play anywhere on anything licensing going. Industry wide. In fact in investor circles this effort is so progressed it would not be at all surprising if this was an iPad release time announcement.
HD movie store. 3D movie store. Displays for 3D viewing and incidentally HD viewing. Apple gives you 3D end to end for the home. We're going to need some storage space!
Enter Apple Server Farm. All your content, all your files, all your backups. Uploaded and downloaded in the background. Keep a couple of movies and several shows on your iPad. The server converts the files to optimum viewing resolution for each target device. You log target devices.
Get ready. Hang on. Yes Apple is a closed system and the iPad while a computer is not positioned as a computer. It is a mobile interface to your content and even your primary computer. It's different thinking. It's different task management. I'ts so different it is easier, more fun, and as we adjust, more productive for a wide variety of work tasks too.
Think different. It's literal.
Rocketman
iDream
iPad HD (hypothetical)
1920 x 1080
163 ppi
Display 11.77 x 6.63"
Case 12.3 x 7.2
Ok, so you bought an apple TV... now I understand completely. Good luck with your new i-rag... it will satisfy you as mush as your apple TV, if not more
I wish my standards were as low... then I would have actually believed this oversized ipod touch was "magical" and would have been much happier...
You all can be totally sure that Apple does not support Flash on iPhone, iPod touch and iPad, because it's an uncontrolled back door for apps, games and video streaming.
Apple wants a total control over its devices, and of course get some small fees, jajajaja
There are no technical reasons, and moving the discussion to whatever Flash has to die or not, or is technically correct or not, or a piece of crap or not, is trying to branch off the attention from the real reason.
Apple wants a total control over its devices, and of course get some small fees, jajajaja
There are no technical reasons, and moving the discussion to whatever Flash has to die or not, or is technically correct or not, or a piece of crap or not, is trying to branch off the attention from the real reason.
I was over on the Supersite to learn more about Windows Home Server when I remembered hearing about this.
Well crap. I think I'll be getting a Windows Home Server with a dual tuner, network PVR, and Time Machine backup support. Did we give up hope on the OS X Home Server?
- Flash 10.1 will be out in the first half of 2010.
- It takes advantage of hardware acceleration (GPU acceleration for H.264 etc). But not on Mac.
- It uses 55% less memory.
- It renders 87% faster.
- It's being released in a non-watered down mobile version for Blackberry, Windows Mobile, Android and Palm, i.e. everything except iPhone.
However, even though the Mac version lacks hw acceleration it's apparently much better, according to...
http://gizmodo.com/5406488/flash-101-tests-hardware-accelerated-hd-hulu-and-youtube-video-yes-please
"I took the same [480p Hulu] Office clip I'd been using for all of the other tests and ran it on my Mac Pro at full screen (2560 x 1600) .Going from roughly 450% down to 190% (or a bit over 10% of total CPU utilization across 16 threads) made full-screen Hulu playable on my machine. In the past I always had to run it in a smaller window, but thanks to Flash 10.1 I don't have to any longer."