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Apple Could Add Force Touch Sensors to Future MacBook Pro Touch Bar
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If they don't like it, then they don't like it.
They should implement mini oled displays into physical keys. It would give us the best of both worlds. They could also be haptic keys. A simple tap would activate the touch buttons and a long press would act as a “physical”press. The software would be able to tell accidental taps from intentional ones to avoid mistakes, almost like palm rejection. Dedicated “keys” are a lot better then one giant pane of glass.
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I like the TouchBar - it works great for what I use it for (and I use BetterTouchTool to extend / customise it further).
Sure, the choice to add / remove it would be good for folks, but I strongly disagree with the sentiment that it's useless, or that nobody cares about it.
Can’t wait for my first Touch Bar MacBook to arrive next week... I almost never use those fn keys, just the ESC, and it’s hard to find things the rare times I need them i.e. the volume buttons or play/pause.
Maybe this hatred is a developers’ thing? I don’t understand, Touch Bar seems so much better to me.
Maybe this hatred is a developers’ thing? I don’t understand, Touch Bar seems so much better to me.
Omg Apple you gonna make me mad every day I mis 3D Touch things take longer my watch is so stupid now my phone is cumbersome 😡
I do like the Touch Bar and use it daily. I like the feel/texture of it as well and find it smartly implemented in many programs. The Touch Bar is a much better experience than the worst keyboard ever in my MBPRO 15 - ugh.....
So you’re still on iOS12 I take it. The stealth castration and death of 3D Touch in iOS13 in phones where the hardware was promoted as a feature, like the X, was a absolute disgrace. Nothing to do with “discoverability”, just penny pinching in new phones and wanting the lowest common denominator across the range.
Hearing about Force Touch possibly being reintroduced in other Apple products just rubs salt in that festering wound.
I thought haptics would be the best thing they could add. I’m not quite sure how force touch would help, but combined with haptics, might help it feel like a more useable interface. My main problem with TB is I forget it’s there until I press something by accident. Maybe force touch capability would prevent this?
From normal viewing angles, the current touch bar really looks dim... if at least they made it so it's optimized for the angle where you'd normally see it from....
There's so much to be improved here. Haptic feedback, customization, the option of it just displaying the F keys or the dock or some widgets or the menu bar.
EDIT: Oh wow, better touch tool seems to do all that. Nice!
There's so much to be improved here. Haptic feedback, customization, the option of it just displaying the F keys or the dock or some widgets or the menu bar.
EDIT: Oh wow, better touch tool seems to do all that. Nice!
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But my iPhone XS still has force touch running iOS 14.2
For example, camera only opens from Lock Screen if I force touch. App icons react much quicker to force touch compared to long press.
I suggested they show notifications there when the display is off. Surely that would be a battery saver.
I'm sure they have a few patents for things like that. I remember seeing the articles on MacRumors a year or two ago.
Apple: Removes 3D Touch/Force Touch from the Apple Watch and the iPhones since no one uses it.
Also Apple: Adds 3D Touch to the MacBook Pro Touch bar.
Also Apple: Adds 3D Touch to the MacBook Pro Touch bar.
I wished Apple will remove the touch bar alltogether. Never liked it. I prefer touchscreen instead of this little gimmicky bar. Force touch would make sense on touchscreen. Other than that why releasing something they will remove soon after as they did on iPhone. What's the point?!
The numbers are probably exactly opposite. More people don’t like the Touch Bar. “Professionals” don’t look down at the keyboard and work off muscle memory. Looking down at your keyboard slows you down. Apple actually had to make the escape button a physical one because of the irritation to most people. The real test for the Touch Bar is to make it optional and see how many people pay the extra money.
They really need to rethink the touchbar and get it to act more like a touch strip.
So you can launch an app from the dock by touching the touchbar under the relevant icon, slide your finger left and right to move along the dock, double tap and slide to move an icon.
In wordprocessors quarter the bar to tap for home, end, page up, page down, and swipes to scroll
Or tap and hold to select a menu bar item and then scrub left or right to scroll down the list to select you option.
Having to take your eyes off the screen to look at the randomly changing bar is a nightmare, I find it useless, it's more a hinderance to productivity for me than a bonus.
So you can launch an app from the dock by touching the touchbar under the relevant icon, slide your finger left and right to move along the dock, double tap and slide to move an icon.
In wordprocessors quarter the bar to tap for home, end, page up, page down, and swipes to scroll
Or tap and hold to select a menu bar item and then scrub left or right to scroll down the list to select you option.
Having to take your eyes off the screen to look at the randomly changing bar is a nightmare, I find it useless, it's more a hinderance to productivity for me than a bonus.
Apple would make alot more money if they had another version without the Touch Bar for MacBook that they charge more for it! Most owners have a hatred for the Touch Bar and would buy the one with out the Touch Bar.
BREAK NEWS!!! 2022, Apple release MAGIC FUCTIONAL KEYS to MBP.
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If touchbar had physical buttons, it will no longer be a touch bar and just be buttons/keys?
I think, at this point, the only way to please both Touch Bar lovers and haters (I’m one of the latter), could be to include both the function keys row and the Touch Bar, trying to make room for both rows. There’s a gorgeous space available between the keyboard and the screen bezel to put a wider, taller touch bar.
Why isn't the Touch Bar on apple's magic keyboards?
Force touch on the touchbar, two gimmicks looking for a problem.
Note there is no separate Esc button in the patent image. Patent was filed May 2019. Apple killed Esc button in 2016, and put it back in Nov 2019.
Just having haptic feedback, like the MacBook's trackpad, would go a long way towards improving the Touch Bar. At least it would feel more like real buttons.