I’d love it if they added force touch keys called ‘keys’
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Apple Could Add Force Touch Sensors to Future MacBook Pro Touch Bar
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I hear you - me too. I don't know about it being a developer's thing. Rather, I think many just need an easy entry point into having a good whine about Apple, and getting that short rush of feel-good power afterwards. The Touch Bar is one of a handful having reached Hall of Fame status a few years ago and is always a crowd pleaser.
A recent contender which seems to be on the way up is HomePod Mini having an attached power cord, and that it is not visible in Apple's product marketing photos. Apparently this has caused mass confusion according to some.
Remember the original presentation for the touch bar? It got a cool reception from the crowd and the demo's seemed awkward. Quick emoji's? On a "Pro" machine? SMH.
Well, it's not any better after all these years. I would have thought Apple would have given us something similar to better touch tool as far as customization through the OS. They apparently couldn't be bothered. This device lacked interest and commitment from Apple from the get go. I can't imagine them going Rev 2.
Well, it's not any better after all these years. I would have thought Apple would have given us something similar to better touch tool as far as customization through the OS. They apparently couldn't be bothered. This device lacked interest and commitment from Apple from the get go. I can't imagine them going Rev 2.
Sometimes Apple drop the ball with their 'innovations': I remember 'Ping' - the social media / music thing... It's as if at some point they skipped the part where they needed to test this in the wild, with normal people, for 2-3 months.
Both Ping and the Touch Bar are things that you imagine those on the apple campus insisting how cool they are, but which get no traction outside that bubble.
Exactly! My biggest issue with touchbar isn’t that it’s on the MacBook, it’s that it’s nowhere else, it has potential but the number of use cases that are excluded is rediculous, laptops used with keyboard and mouse, iMacs, Mac mini, Mac’s, to get developers to fully utilise it then it’s needs to be available on anything running macOS
Of course, Tim Cook is to blame for everything. Especially for raising Apple to heights Steve Jobs might have been dreaming of and some dead end developments that brought us the M1 chip.
You are overthinking this.
They just lost out to Facebook that’s something you cannot test. If you are aiming for success you must not be afraid of failure. It happens all the time.
I hate paying for the Touch Bar, please make a MBP 16 without it. I use my MBP and 27 iMac daily. Without the Touch Bar being everywhere, I’ll never consider it. I also rarely look down at the keyboard while working.
MORE PORTS (USB - HDMI - ethernet - memory card slot) and LESS GIMMICK please
Great. Increase even further the prices by adding another unwanted feature.
If they sold the same model with and without the touchbar, I’d bet the later would outsell the former easily, even if pricing was the same. Even more if the model without touchbar were cheaper.
If they sold the same model with and without the touchbar, I’d bet the later would outsell the former easily, even if pricing was the same. Even more if the model without touchbar were cheaper.
No company should ignore their customers. If they’re complaining, it’s for a reason.
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I'm so glad that thing is NOT on the MacBook Air.
Apple really didn't have to try to reinvent the wheel here.
That said, I think that if they included it ABOVE the function keys in an MBP it would please everyone (because those who don't like it could just ignore it).
Apple really didn't have to try to reinvent the wheel here.
That said, I think that if they included it ABOVE the function keys in an MBP it would please everyone (because those who don't like it could just ignore it).
I'm not going to deny your own experiences but much to your point; not sure how well you can speak for many people. In my own experience, everyone in my team hates it (I know this for sure) and I've had a few discussions with the other enthusiasts in the company (we make iOS apps so of course there are many die hard fans) and in my experience the response ranges from "It's alright" to "oh hell no".
I think the fundamental problem is it was released as a solution looking for a problem. That said, it's grown on me in the years for sure but there are still just two little benefits I find with it, which aren't enough for me, especially given that it does occasionally lag. I'm not saying they should remove it but they should 100% make it an option on the MBP line.
I didn’t like it at all when I first got a MBP with it. But after about 6 months I found I was using it all the time. Putting a physical escape key back on was definitely the right move.
I think adding force touch would create some interesting interaction opportunities.
I think adding force touch would create some interesting interaction opportunities.
I may be in the minority but I really like the touchbar in my MBP13 2020. I try to use it more and more each day, fine tuning it to my needs. I just find it really handy to have shortcuts quickly available and see what they do before. Adding back a physical ESC key certainly was a good idea.
The only part I am missing and that would make the experience much better is some haptic feedback. Force touch can help but they should also integrate the Taptic engine somehow.
PS: i also liked 3D Touch on iPhone and used it a lot (I felt robbed when it was deactivated by ios13 on my 6S) so I may be a special weirdo…
The only part I am missing and that would make the experience much better is some haptic feedback. Force touch can help but they should also integrate the Taptic engine somehow.
PS: i also liked 3D Touch on iPhone and used it a lot (I felt robbed when it was deactivated by ios13 on my 6S) so I may be a special weirdo…
They removed 3D Touch on phones but then put it on the touchbar 😲
Apple is doing exactly the opposite here. I think that people who mostly like touchbar are those, who have no use of function keys beyond setting volume and brightness (I guess mostly home users), while most of those who use professional aplications (like coders, musicians etc.) hate it, since those apps makes a very good use of function keys, which are far from "old" or "obsolete". And no force touch will change this, because you still will not be able to use it quickly lik enormal keys without looking at it first.
So instead of putting it on the Pro series I think it would be a much better fit for the Air. Pro series could maybe get more ports instead (blasphemy, I know
So instead of putting it on the Pro series I think it would be a much better fit for the Air. Pro series could maybe get more ports instead (blasphemy, I know
So you’re saying they’re gonna add a feature they have removed from every other product line? Doubtful.
Too slow. Hurry-up Apple and get on with doing a full-on haptic keyboard implementation of this so the entire keyboard dynamically changes to whatever is best for the app you are in e.g. imagine dedicated keyboards for Photoshop vs Logic vs Word/Pages vs Excel vs Final Cut vs VirutalDJ, etc
Yes, it will be like Marmite but lets get it done and over with and like the butterfly keyboard you will soon know whether it was revolutionary or a damp squib.
Personally, I'm all up for it...in theory.
Yes, it will be like Marmite but lets get it done and over with and like the butterfly keyboard you will soon know whether it was revolutionary or a damp squib.
Personally, I'm all up for it...in theory.
I’ve been demanding this for years. It’s necessary in order to eliminate stray touches, which is one of the biggest problems with the useless Touch Bar, and to add a little bit of tactile feedback, which is another problem.
Better, still, would be to get rid of the Touch Bar, or to add back the real function keys and then to stick the Touch Bar above those. But apple seems intent on punishing people who know how to touch type.
Better, still, would be to get rid of the Touch Bar, or to add back the real function keys and then to stick the Touch Bar above those. But apple seems intent on punishing people who know how to touch type.