This isn't going to save or cost Apple a significant amount of money. They're just arguing over whether the taxes should be paid in the US or the EU. But the taxes are still paid either way.
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Apple Could Pay 'Total Political Crap' $14 Billion Tax Bill to EU After All
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Drive their cloud business? lol. People today dont' back up their phones to their computers. Heck, Apple even did away with that. You're reaching for nonsense. USB 2.0 won't drive any revenue for Apple. It just means any USB C cable will work with it since that's the base USB C standard, which is already super confusing for the average consumer.
BTW, I know this is shocking but Apple is a business, and they rely on, are you sitting down, profits to stay in business. You know what businesses that don't do that are called, bankrupt.
Europe is not a Democracy as we know it. The EU is a socialist leaning towards communist overlord. Awaiting is dissolution with the next economic downturn. If Germany leaves it all goes away.
Ireland seemed to have no problem with it. It is the problem with the EU is that Brussels will stick its nose into to other countries affairs
If the EU has a problem with what Ireland did, talk to Ireland. That’s Ireland’s alleged breech, not Apple’s. Why didn’t the EU communicate with Ireland before when this all went down in the first place?
Apple should politely remove itself from Europe all together, despite the effect on their balance sheet. Maybe then the EU will come its senses. Let the EU make an euPhone, since they are so particular how the phone must be made and how their companies need to be run/managed. They don’t need Apple and Apple doesn’t need them.
Apple should politely remove itself from Europe all together, despite the effect on their balance sheet. Maybe then the EU will come its senses. Let the EU make an euPhone, since they are so particular how the phone must be made and how their companies need to be run/managed. They don’t need Apple and Apple doesn’t need them.
Nah just a egocentric and hypocritical company with a high inclination towards loopholes to circumvent taxes at large scale, and who does everything it can to not contribute to the economic well-being of any country and society, which is usually build on taxes.
State aid: Ireland gave illegal tax benefits to Apple worth up to €13 billion
The European Commission has concluded that Ireland granted undue tax benefits of up to €13 billion to Apple. This is illegal under EU state aid rules, because it allowed Apple to pay substantially less tax than other businesses. Ireland must now recover the illegal aid.
I have no idea what your point is here since you didn't comment. But it is a good reminder of the misleading numbers that the EU used to justify this action originally.State aid: Ireland gave illegal tax benefits to Apple worth up to €13 billion
The European Commission has concluded that Ireland granted undue tax benefits of up to €13 billion to Apple. This is illegal under EU state aid rules, because it allowed Apple to pay substantially less tax than other businesses. Ireland must now recover the illegal aid.ec.europa.eu
Yes Apple did away with local backups, for the sake of pushing the iCloud subscription revenue.
There is a reason why Apple gives you 5GB for free and constantly show banners which means in other words: "Hey buddy, your iPhone has not been backup for a while, and sadly your free 5GB iCloud does not have enough space to make a backup". Luckily we have a solution for this, it's called 50GB, 250GB... iCloud subscription, go ahead and subscribe it, we care for your wallet ermm we care for you, of course!"
And no not any USB-C will work, to get faster USB-C transfer speed you need Apple's cable.
Without Apple's USB-C cable you just get a USB 2.0 speed.
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People may not back up their phone to their computers but they do back up their iPhone or iPad to iCloud. Apple knows the 5 GB free isn’t enough for back up so you have to purchase the 50 GB for $.99 a month. I know some android phones give you 15 GB for free. If Apple did that people would no longer purchase the 50 GB for $.99. I’m using almost 10 GB.
Hmm how is that democratic?
Let me try to show...
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And then look at all the EU countries with "Full democracy"...
The Economist Democracy Index - Wikipedia
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Ha ok I meant this specific policy. But the idea that any country has "full democracy" is kind of laughable. I think every one of them could at the very least be described as "flawed." I don't think the opposite of "flawed" is "full", by the way. That would be something like "perfect" which I don't think exists.
I don't know about all of that but yes if Germany leaves there would be almost no point. Sorry, France.
We will most likely move to Thunderbolt. Which is the same connector as USB-C and can work with it. So we can get more bandwidth down the line. Have to see how far it can go without being a burden on power consumption (these are phones at the end of the day) but, it "should" be around for a while.
FYI: The EU is more democratic than the US. As argued earlier in this thread WITH references.
Also there are plenty of right wing governments in the EU. But it’s hard to compare to the US where you only have the choice between right (Dems) and extreme right (Republicans).
Why would Apple pull out from a market that makes up a quarter of their revenue. That makes zero sense business wise.
Sorry, but your citation does not show results, it is a projection. It is exactly what I'm talking about with an appeal to emotion. "Official estimates" say X is going to happen and everyone gets all bent on it, then when Y happens... it's license to rack up more bills.
Here's what actually happened (some years are projections, but check out which way they've been adjusted compared to the projection in your citation):
U.S. government - receipts 2035| Statista
The total receipts of the United States government added up to about 4.92 trillion U.S.
www.statista.com
Then there's spending:
U.S. government - Outlays 2029| Statista
The total outlays of the United States government added up to about 6.13 trillion U.S.
www.statista.com
Looking at just those figures, what actually accounts for the debt - tax revenue, or spending? NOTE:
pre-pandemic income (2019) = 3.46T vs now (2022) = 4.90T
pre-pandemic spend (2019) = 4.45T vs now (2022) = 6.27T
If we had just reverted to pre-pandemic spending (of course adjusting for spending-induced inflation), we'd be soooo much better off. But hey, just keep blaming tax cuts.
IMHO this isn't a screw up. This is the EU trying to tax it's way into innovation. Good luck with that.
PS Where are the 4 usb-c ports I want on my Apple watch?... Come on EU policy makers, force some inventing already!
No one is denying that tax revenues increased. What you are refusing to acknowledge is that they increased less than if there were no tax cuts. Do you not understand that?Sorry, but your citation does not show results, it is a projection. It is exactly what I'm talking about with an appeal to emotion. "Official estimates" say X is going to happen and everyone gets all bent on it, then when Y happens... it's license to rack up more bills.
Here's what actually happened (some years are projections, but check out which way they've been adjusted compared to the projection in your citation):
U.S. government - receipts 2035| Statista
The total receipts of the United States government added up to about 4.92 trillion U.S.
Both spending increases and revenue cuts contribute to the deficit. That's how the math works. (And the vast majority of post-pandemic spending increases was offset by revenue increases.)Then there's spending:
U.S. government - Outlays 2029| Statista
The total outlays of the United States government added up to about 6.13 trillion U.S.
Looking at just those figures, what actually accounts for the debt - tax revenue, or spending? NOTE:
pre-pandemic income (2019) = 3.46T vs now (2022) = 4.90T
pre-pandemic spend (2019) = 4.45T vs now (2022) = 6.27T
If we had just reverted to pre-pandemic spending (adjusting for inflation of course), we'd be soooo much better off. But hey, just keep blaming tax cuts.
Haha. Fair enough, but the courts do take their own look. They rely on all sorts of experts from their clerks to amicus to officials. But, yes, official opinions carry a lot of weight…
Was just trying to get clarification on what you meant... and if you mean they should leave a market because they have to much money... made zero sense also... and since they have to much money... you could always stop partaking in the purchasing of their products because as you stated, they have to much money. But ok.