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Last September, Apple stopped selling genuine leather accessories in favor of a more environmentally friendly "FineWoven" material, but it did not go down well with customers, and dwindling stock leading up to Apple's iPhone 16 event on September 9 has many people wondering if Apple is about to pull the plug on FineWoven for good.

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The company describes FineWoven as "luxurious and durable microtwill," and sells FineWoven iPhone cases at $59, MagSafe Wallets at $59, AirTag holders at $35, and Apple Watch bands at $99. However, many customers consider FineWoven products to be subpar compared to the leather Apple cases they replaced, with various claims that the fabric is prone to scratches, stains, and discoloration.

Back in April, Apple leaker and prototype collector Kosutami claimed that Apple had decided to halt production of FiveWoven accessories over durability concerns, although the leaker did not discount the possibility of one more round of FineWoven products, possibly in a season of new colors. However, FineWoven accessories in new color options were absent from Apple's spring refresh.

Notably, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, stock of iPhone cases and Apple Watch bands in the material is now at an all-time low. That generally means that Apple is either getting ready to kill off FineWoven or plans to update the lineup with different colors and support for new iPhone and Apple Watch models. Will you miss Apple's FineWoven accessories if Apple does discontinue them? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: Apple Could Still Pull the Plug on Its Much-Maligned FineWoven Cases
 

Martius

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And my beautiful leather case on my iPhone SE still looks great after 4 years. Just a little bit of patina. So who's more eco-friendly?

I'm still wondering, wouldn't it be eco-friendly if cases could be reused between multiple generations of the same device? It certainly wouldn't be necessary to resize the camera bump every year. I mean, it's actually best not to buy a new phone every year because each successive generation adds less and less value.

All this eco-marketing pisses me off. Very hypocritical...
 

coffeemilktea

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Apple should bring back leather; it looks classy and it's better for the environment, purely because people are encouraged to keep leather accessories longer.

Using subpar materials like FineWoven means that accessories will get damaged and get replaced more often, contributing more to waste. Though I guess replacing them contributes more to Apple's bottom line. 🤪
 

Porco

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‘We heard customers weren’t entirely happy with FineWoven, so we’re excited to announce we’re replacing it today with something much better, and we think you’re going to love it...’

-applause-

‘Introducing EvenFinerWoven!’

-tumbleweeds-
 

dotnet

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While I much prefer real leather, I think Apple should have opted to use vegan leather in their products over fine woven.

Vegan leather is a feel-good travesty. I much prefer full grain leather to some 100% man-made concoction straight out of the IG Farben recipe book. It would have to be proper leather, though, not this paper-thin leather veneer over a plastic shell that Apple used to sell as "leather".

And no, not a single cow has ever died for its skin. I eat beef, and I'm all for nose to tail utilisation of the animal.
 

kiranmk2

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It's not that they're garbage. I think people are exaggerating.

But 69€ for that? It's plain theft. They should sell for 30€ tops. The silicone ones same and bring back leather cases for 50€.

Apple should bring back leather; it looks classy and it's better for the environment, purely because people are encouraged to keep leather accessories longer.

Using subpar materials like FineWoven means that accessories will get damaged and get replaced more often, contributing more to waste. Though I guess replacing them contributes more to Apple's bottom line. 🤪

Quite the pickle Apple are in after going to such lengths to trumpet moving away from leather. Any move back to leather (which would be the obvious thing to do) is now off the cards as it would be a PR nightmare. But then, dropping Finewoven would pick a big dent in their revenues from people paying $59 for an iPhone case...

Vegan leather could be an option although it's leaving the door open to complaints that $59 is too much for polyurethane. I wonder if that mushroom-based leather is durable enough and has scaled-up enough to be used...
 

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Last September, Apple stopped selling genuine leather accessories in favor of a more environmentally friendly "FineWoven" material, but it did not go down well with customers, and dwindling stock leading up to Apple's iPhone 16 event on September 9 has many people wondering if Apple is about to pull the plug on FineWoven for good.

iPhone-15-Pro-FineWoven-feature.jpg

The company describes FineWoven as "luxurious and durable microtwill," and sells FineWoven iPhone cases at $59, MagSafe Wallets at $59, AirTag holders at $35, and Apple Watch bands at $99. However, many customers consider FineWoven products to be subpar compared to the leather Apple cases they replaced, with various claims that the fabric is prone to scratches, stains, and discoloration.

Back in April, Apple leaker and prototype collector Kosutami claimed that Apple had decided to halt production of FiveWoven accessories over durability concerns, although the leaker did not discount the possibility of one more round of FineWoven products, possibly in a season of new colors. However, FineWoven accessories in new color options were absent from Apple's spring refresh.

Notably, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, stock of iPhone cases and Apple Watch bands in the material is now at an all-time low. That generally means that Apple is either getting ready to kill off FineWoven or plans to update the lineup with different colors and support for new iPhone and Apple Watch models. Will you miss Apple's FineWoven accessories if Apple does discontinue them? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: Apple Could Still Pull the Plug on Its Much-Maligned FineWoven Cases
Bring leather back!
 

wikiverse

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Finewoven is plastic. 'Vegan leather' is plastic. There is no improvement going from one to another. Plastic degrades, and is just as disposable and non-recyclable when glued to other plastics, regardless of how 'vegan' it is. Calling plastic 'vegan leather' is the dumbest attempt to re-brand disposable, non-recyclable, degradable plastic I've encountered.

Just use leather. The animals are getting killed for their meat anyway, might as use all of their parts. It's much more environmentally friendly. Apple absolutely has the resources to dictate what tanning chemicals and procedures occur, and how any potential waste is managed.
 
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StuBeck

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And my beautiful leather case on my iPhone SE still looks great after 4 years. Just a little bit of patina. So who's more eco-friendly?

I'm still wondering, wouldn't it be eco-friendly if cases could be reused between multiple generations of the same device? It certainly wouldn't be necessary to resize the camera bump every year. I mean, it's actually best not to buy a new phone every year because each successive generation adds less and less value.

All this eco-marketing pisses me off. Very hypocritical...
Yes, it would be. The whole idea of "reduce, reuse, recycle" is about first reducing your use of new materials, then reusing them, and at worse recycling. For some reason people decided that recycling is the best thing they can possibly do.
 
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