Sorry, I have too much experience.
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Hopefully you'll never have to work with one (or a couple of hundred).CS major actually.
Nice try though
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Oh I see, then I guess I should extend a welcome to the internet.
You should block out a lot of time if you want to continue down that rabbit hole with strangers on forums.
In the meantime, here is some reading....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
That's okay, they'll be too busy find "Art Directors" with Zero Experience, to worry about an old codger like me.
This is just weird. The logo and copy are both horrible! So was this produced by the same type of people they are trying to hire? Because if so the bar is low.
Really. Because if you're an engineer in (let's say one or more of the two biggest aerospace companies in the US) you should know that the bean-counters are cutting corners by throwing away experienced engineers when they hit ~50. They're "too expensive" wage and health-care wise and they don't want to pay an experienced design engineer what he or she is worth. It's the canary in the coal mine for engineers. The next time you step on board a brand new aircraft -especially in bad weather- keep in mind that the company went with the cheapest engineer they could find for the job. Every year, in order to please their VP's and get their bonuses, the senior managers have to show that they are "cutting costs" -a race to the bottom if you will. And hey, those yachts and vacation homes aren't cheap.
Yeah, but it's probably just going to blow up from a faulty phone battery that some other bargain-basement engineer designed anyway.
And now it's removed. Thank god. That copy was garbage. The page displayed horribly. The logo is atrocious. And it was all a single PNG file. WTF.
Not really. It's not like you're part of some group sequestered from the rest of the public.
I've taught and hired millennials and I don't have any complaints.
The ragging on them may be justified in some areas, but more often than not it's the same tired arguments every generation has about the one after them.
its always struck me as amusing and hypocritical that a company founded by a college dropout generally refuses to even consider anyone without a degree.
Indeed, and I think you touch upon a pertinent point.
Part of the reason why Apple and all tech is going to the dogs is because of poor education. In trying to increase the number of students, quality is inevitably lowered for all, meaning the chances of being able to gather an A team becomes increasingly hard.
And what's more, there's no sign that there will be any improvement soon, which means that we can look forward to many years of poorly developed tech, I'm sorry to say. Sorry to be so gloomy, but I try to see the reality of the situation, and that presents a bleak picture. I think we're in for a good decade of stasis in the tech world. Computers have come to a standstill in speed improvements. Software is all done. What else is there to do with tech? I'm not sure there is anything, other than tweaking things. Computers have finally become like fridges; functional things that we need, but they don't present any excitement.
It was certainly an exciting few years from 1976 to 2011, and for that I am grateful.
This is something I have put a great deal of thought into as well. I do agree with your points about the education system not putting out the best quality education for students, but, I also think that there is a high degree of people who are just " following the money"... they're sitting there wondering what they can do to make the quickest buck as fast as possible and the answer is always invariably IT. I used to run operations at a Datacenter and I would hire entry-level talent as it was good exposure for them as an entry level gig. There's a nearby Technical School, one of those kinds that will take anybody as long as you can pay the fee, and as a result you would get a wide variety of applicants from all ends of the quality spectrum. Few of them had a genuine interest in IT. Even fewer were actually any good at it. I remember one kid in particular who worked for me for about 3 months. Sycophantic, distracting, unfocused, and generally of borderline competency. Always talking about how he was gonna go places in IT. Also didn't think that showing up on time was something that he needed to do. We finally fired him because of that. As a nice little send off he decided to do donuts in the parking lot after we showed him the door. I found out about two or three years later that this kid is working for Apple now in their security team, making a good six figures. This I know is based purely off the degree he basically bought, and nepotism from "connections". At least he seems to have learned to show up on time. But when I hear about breaches and such at Apple, I can't help but shake my head. There's some tool in a back room watching Overwatch replays instead of doing their job, and you can take that to the bank. He sure is.