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I see it differently, in that the iPod touch fills the gap between the classic iPod and the iPhone, and it's clearly closer in features, both form-factor and software, to the iPhone than it is to the other three iPods.

It's the iPod iphone without the phone.
 
Me too. It's (Shock-Horror) an iPod.

Yes, but it's an ipod that apple obviously decided WAS up until this last minute change, the device to allow 'add' to your calender and promoted it as such.

The fact that they have subsequently modified this on the quiet is wrong.

We ordered a touch the following day after the announcements, as i say to replace a nano & palm tungsten in one device.

I don't need full PDA functionality, just address book and calender/todo lists.

On initial inspection the iTouch fufilled this down to the tee, but now that's just wishful thinking.

Whilst it's good to have a seperation of devices, the fact that the iPhone is not available worldwide, makes a devision fruitless because it gives the larger majority of consumers NO choice / option or anywhere to go.

Also by forcing consumers to go with iPhone, and a 2 year phone contract just to be able to modify their calender is a big joke.

I have now cancelled the iTouch we ordered, and hope the situation will be remedied.
 
I think it's a little hard to judge off shaky information based on website images.

I'll wait till mine arrives to pass judgment.

Saying that, it doesn't mean I don't agree they should clear it up.
 
Saying that, it doesn't mean I don't agree they should clear it up.

Drop me a pm to let me know ;) But yeah, I just want this cleared up. Replacing the tungsten & nano was the 'justification' for ordering a touch (alongside the classic already shipped). If it turns out that it is indeed slightly crippled, then I'll be in the sh*t ;):D So cancelling it is me covering my back.
 
Drop me a pm to let me know ;) But yeah, I just want this cleared up. Replacing the tungsten & nano was the 'justification' for ordering a touch (alongside the classic already shipped). If it turns out that it is indeed slightly crippled, then I'll be in the sh*t ;):D So cancelling it is me covering my back.

I shall let you know. By the time I do mind, it's certain you'll already know. :D

Fair enough covering your own back, I was looking for a touch screen iPod, which is what I got. I'm more than happy. You wanted to replace a PDA which this may not now do.

I'd prolly have canceled as well.
 
I don't typically do this sort of thing, but I did send out a mildly chastising message via the Apple Site (summarized: 'WTF m8?').
 
I can't agree with folks saying it makes sense because it isn't a PDA. Entering iCal events doesn't make the iPod Touch a PDA.

It doesn't make it compete with the iPhone either, the point of differentiation there is the phone, and that is a big point.

By removing input features from the Touch it removes important points of differentiation between it and the iPod Classic. When something costs more money and comes with a drastically smaller HD there needs to be more than a larger touch sensitive screen to differentiate the two.
 
It's interesting what kind of reactions touch has brought out in people. So far I have seen these shortcomings mentioned:

- no camera
- no GPS
- no email

And now we can add "no calendar-entry" to the list. And while I read that list, I keep muttering to myself "it's an iPod....". Would it be nice to be able to add calendar-entries to the iPod? Sure! But then again, it IS just an iPod...
 
I can't agree with folks saying it makes sense because it isn't a PDA. Entering iCal events doesn't make the iPod Touch a PDA.

The essentials of a PDA are maintaining a contacts list (which the touch lets you do) and a calendar, along with the people asking for a To Do list it becomes a PDA.

To Apples credit or detriment they have a drawn a line between the functionality of the iphone and the ipod, you have to decide whether it fits your needs or not.
 
I can't agree with folks saying it makes sense because it isn't a PDA. Entering iCal events doesn't make the iPod Touch a PDA.

It doesn't make it compete with the iPhone either, the point of differentiation there is the phone, and that is a big point.

By removing input features from the Touch it removes important points of differentiation between it and the iPod Classic. When something costs more money and comes with a drastically smaller HD there needs to be more than a larger touch sensitive screen to differentiate the two.
Agreed, let's hope Apple has some sense and adds this feature back in with a firmware update. I'm not holding my breath though.

I really have to question if I want a touch now. I may as well get the nano and save myself some money and pocket space.
 
To Apples credit or detriment they have a drawn a line between the functionality of the iphone and the ipod, you have to decide whether it fits your needs or not.

And if the iPhone isn't available to you, your just gonna have to except the 1 fingure salute from Apple. ;)
 
Not having read previous posts...

Apple isn't crippling the iPod touch. When have any previous generation iPods been able to directly add an event to a calendar? The answer, never. You have only been able to sync / view calendars. Granted, the new iPod has a keyboard for certain apps. But why make one iPod (touch) be able to add calendar events and the others not? No matter how sick you all might think this is, it's not. It's smart, smart marketing - something many people / corporations do not fully understand.
 
Apple is so against freedom, why do users have to hack the thing to enjoy the device to its real potential?
 
It's smart, smart marketing - something many people / corporations do not fully understand.

its anti-evolution, anti-freedom, anti-technology, anti-user experience, monopoly. worst of a business. You can argue other companies do that too, that doesn't change a thing.
 
FALSE ADVERTISMENT....i really wish they brought out the 16gb iphone they would make this decision so much easier.
 
And if the iPhone isn't available to you, your just gonna have to except the 1 fingure salute from Apple. ;)

Not just if the iPhone isnt available to you. If your not in the US history tells us this is what usually happens.

So, could we be seeing a different set of features across the pond? From what ive read the ability to add calendar notes is still advertised on European Apple sites.
 
No they have changed the UK/Ireland pages subsequently now too.

tis true, you have to remember though, this is the first version of the touch, look where the ipod classic is now compared to the original! Hopefully apple will be able to do most of it through software this time rather than requiring better hardware with the touch, but we'll see..
 
Apple isn't crippling the iPod touch. When have any previous generation iPods been able to directly add an event to a calendar? The answer, never. You have only been able to sync / view calendars. Granted, the new iPod has a keyboard for certain apps. But why make one iPod (touch) be able to add calendar events and the others not? No matter how sick you all might think this is, it's not. It's smart, smart marketing - something many people / corporations do not fully understand.

You should really read the posts, it's not even two pages worth yet, and you might better understand what the two major points are:

1) False Advertising.

Apple plainly stated on their website you can add/edit calendar events on the iPod touch. Now they have inexplicably taken this away. This is totally dissimilar to not including the Notes app, as that was never promised in the first place.

2) Why the F Not!?

Seriously, this is not going to be the differentiator to push someone toward getting an iPhone over a touch. If anything it serves only to annoy and anger potential customers. And the funny thing is... they went out of their way to do this. Who cares if other iPods don't have it either. Other iPods did not have a keyboard or other easy method of input. Why should the keyboard be totally pointless if not connected to wifi??? What's the point in that!? It's not like it cannot be done.

Conclusion: There is no explanation for this Apple. If I had ordered a touch, you can be certain I would have canceled my order because of this alone. As it is, I would have ordered one after the next storage increase, but now have changed my mind and won't order another iPod, even if my current one dies. I have been a loyal customer for quite a while now, but if this business practice persists with iPod touch, or with Leopard, or any other product, I see no reason to continue to conduct business with you.

In other words, Crees, this is indeed not what I would call "smart marketing". Not in the least. And I see no reason in buying a product where I would rely on hackers to do something Apple should have done from the start. Send a message people.
 
Now a REALLY EXPENSIVE iPod...

I could've justified the $299 for a measly 8Gig iPod as long as I could double it as a PDA, adding contacts and appointments and notes...

Now, I don't think so...
 
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