Apple Criticized for 'Fundamentally Misguided' Approach to Stage Manager in iPadOS 16

[Ludatyk]

If you don't like a particular aspect, the best feedback is how it fails to solve a particular problem and how a different way might work better. Apple will collect all that information, find a consensus, if there is any, and make changes as they see fit. Some of their decisions will be awesome and some will suck beyond belief. But definitely offer your input, good or ill, preferably both.

Well, yeah. Federico provided feedback (a feature request)… Apple decided it won‘t implement his request at the time, therefore he decided to tweet about it in frustration thus creating this article. And tbh, I think his feedback is valid. But I think Apple is focused on bug fixes and making the experience more responsive.

What most users is not understanding… this is version 1.0 of Stage Manager. It will evolve over time… back in iOS 9 when Spit Screen (not Split View) was announced users had to go through an app picker list to use the feature. It’s as if we want everything all at once when history tells us it’s gradually improvements.

iPadOS is not macOS. It is a tablet, not a laptop, and never will be a laptop.

According to you, the iPad is suited as a tablet.. but to claim it will never be a laptop is wrong.

The idea of a laptop is that a keyboard is attached to the screen while being able to interact with it via mouse and with iPad keyboard accessories it has provided users the possibility of it becoming a laptop. Granted, it might not be for you and that’s okay… but for others it has served that role.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand iPadOS is limited and it doesn’t compare to macOS. But it’s a capable computing device.

 

[tomtad]

I do think Apple needs a big shake up of the software division. We had the Safari debacle last summer and now the half baked Stage Manager. Somehow features a making it through to the final stages without proper consideration and testing.

Stage Manager isn't a bad idea it's the implementation which is lacking and a lot of that I feel is with how it's tacked onto existing multitasking solutions rather than being integrated with them. And trying to force the feature to work on both Mac and iPad at the same time is driving this, they fundamentally have different paradigms.

Personally I'd pull it from Mac for now and focus on implementation on iPad. I'd also be tempted to have it purely as a solution for windowing on external displays where you have more real estate requiring windowing and interact with a pointer. When used on its own full screen or split view apps make more sense on the smaller displays with touch. The "strip" of recent windows should also sit to the left on both environments, auto-hidden when using full screen apps, providing consistency.

When it comes to the Mac the whole window management needs a rethink. The implementation of full screen apps and in particular split screen is incredibly limited. And then we have Spaces which Stage Manager effectively mimics. Mission Control, Spaces and Stage Manager need bringing together in one solution which is intuitive to use.

 

[unrigestered]

Don’t get me wrong, I understand iPadOS is limited and it doesn’t compare to macOS. But it’s a capable computing device

it is…
and Stage Manager in it's current form might make sense on an iPad (if you truly need deep(er) multi window support on such a device), but on Mac it is just another not fully sophisticated attempt at something that currently takes Apple 5 (or so) tools (6 with Stage Manager) that other OSes might achieve with 2, or maybe3, often times miles better in actually finished forms without some major quirks or hassles.
- Full Screen Split View on Mac is laughably bad, it's actually somewhat more refined on iPadOS.
- option / tab could use some big improvements
- mission control is pretty nice, but still has some weird behaviors that could easily be fixed
- exposé is missing some details too
- same with the Dock
- proper window snapping would help greatly too

so, what should we expect from Stage Manager in regards to seeing future improvements over time, when the other, already existing tools had been neglected for ages?
other than being a sixth “unfinished“ attempt on which development basically will be abandoned, like it has been in five (or so) other tools before

or should we just be patient and “pray“ for a sevenths solution in macOS 15 or 16, that again tries to fix some things in the other tools, but still not get everyhing right once again?
but hey, maybe an 8th solution might come with macOS 20, when we will have 8 tools each trying to fix something, that again other OSes already had nailed with maybe 2-3 apps eons ago

 

[tobybrut]

Well, yeah. Federico provided feedback (a feature request)… Apple decided it won‘t implement his request at the time, therefore he decided to tweet about it in frustration thus creating this article. And tbh, I think his feedback is valid. But I think Apple is focused on bug fixes and making the experience more responsive.

What most users is not understanding… this is version 1.0 of Stage Manager. It will evolve over time… back in iOS 9 when Spit Screen (not Split View) was announced users had to go through an app picker list to use the feature. It’s as if we want everything all at once when history tells us it’s gradually improvements.


According to you, the iPad is suited as a tablet.. but to claim it will never be a laptop is wrong.

The idea of a laptop is that a keyboard is attached to the screen while being able to interact with it via mouse and with iPad keyboard accessories it has provided users the possibility of it becoming a laptop. Granted, it might not be for you and that’s okay… but for others it has served that role.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand iPadOS is limited and it doesn’t compare to macOS. But it’s a capable computing device.

I strongly disagree that iPadOS is limited. It may be limited in what you want it to do, but it isn't limited for any tablet. Many people run businesses off of their iPads and iPads can do things Macs simply can't do very well and vice versa. They differ mostly because their interfaces are optimized for completely different inputs. Macs NEED a keyboard and mouse/trackpad while an iPad NEEDS touch. The iPad doesn't need a keyboard or pointer device of any kind to work as it was intended. Macs can't even use touch (no, a trackpad doesn't count since you're not touching the screen).

The serious misconception people have is that both are intended for the same thing. They are not. For every workflow that works best on a Mac, there's another workflow (or play flow since not everyone gets a device for work) that works better on an iPad. But it seems everyone thrashing the iPad wants it to be a Mac. Why, when there's already Macs to be had that can do the job better, faster, and cooler? One is even lighter than an iPad/keyboard combo.

Microsoft screwed up big time when they kept trying to shoehorn tablets and laptops into the same form factor starting with Windows Vista. They've continued to screw it up ever since. They even broke their promise of Windows 10 being the last Windows they'd ever make because it sucked on a tablet. Now they went completely the other way with Windows 11 and now it sucks on the desktop and the tablet because it's trying to be jack of all trades and master of none. Microsoft never understood its mistake that separate form factors need different OS'es. Apple recognized it early on and separated iOS and iPadOS and never had macOS on iPhones. Even if iOS and iPadOS have a lot in common, they aren't the same.

I simply don't see what's wrong with the iPad keeping its strengths while the MacBooks keep theirs. There will always be overlapping functionality between all of Apple's devices (or other tech companies for that matter), but you'll notice Apple sells both desktops and laptops. Despite running the same operating system, both have their strengths and weaknesses. Desktops are not really portable, not even the Mac mini nor Ultra since they don't have monitors. Laptops are, but are generally weaker than desktops in expandability, performance, and cost more for the benefit of higher portability. Just try sticking an M1 Ultra in a laptop. But Apple sells both because people have different needs. So why try to turn the tablet into something it isn't? Apple has always said buy the best tool for your needs whether it's a tablet, a laptop, a phone, or a desktop.

People also misconstrue "What is a computer?" Never did Apple say that the phrase meant they were going to turn the iPad into a MacBook. Prior to those commercials, people thought tablets were toys. Apple's advertising campaign was meant to show that iPads had power and could do a lot of things computers can do because it IS a computer. A computer is not always a laptop, but a laptop is a computer. Just as a tablet is not a laptop but is a computer. That's what the ad campaign meant. But the misunderstanding set off a firestorm for many years with people thinking it meant that iPad == MacBook when Apple never said any such thing.

While it's commendable to want one device for all, I'd note that many of us here have desktops AND laptops AND tablets. Just why is that? Why can't the laptop replace all three? Or the tablet? Or the desktop? Maybe because all three are different devices that can do different things in different ways. I've never understood the obsession of turning a tablet into a laptop when it isn't one. I don't see anyone calling for laptops to replace all desktops. Nor do I see people calling for iPhones to replace iPads, yet most people who have an iPad also have a phone. Yet phones can do pretty much what tablets can do. The four devices create a tier of power from desktop down to phone with each tier slightly more powerful but less portable than the one below it.

 

[tomtad]

- Full Screen Split View is nothing more than a sad joke and nearly unusuable in a meaningful way
- option / tab could use some big improvements
- mission control is pretty nice, but still has some weird behaviors that could easily be fixed
- exposé is missing some details too
- same with the Dock
- proper window snapping would help greatly too

Exactly this. The whole thing needs a complete rethink.

Personally I'd go with Stage Manager idea of "sets" or window groups as a replacement to Spaces, and also ditch full screen mode putting all windows in one screen. The three finger swipe could then be repurposed to switch between windows, or groups of windows, rather than moving between screens. Put window groups in the dock, and show all my window groups and open windows when you involve Mission Control. And provide options to snap windows when putting together a group. It needs to be as flexible as possible which the current implementation of full screen apps and split screen isn't.

Of course those who prefer the current system you provide an option to stick with this otherwise move everyone to the new multitasking system.

 

[Ludatyk]

I strongly disagree that iPadOS is limited. It may be limited in what you want it to do, but it isn't limited for any tablet. Many people run businesses off of their iPads and iPads can do things Macs simply can't do very well and vice versa. They differ mostly because their interfaces are optimized for completely different inputs. Macs NEED a keyboard and mouse/trackpad while an iPad NEEDS touch. The iPad doesn't need a keyboard or pointer device of any kind to work as it was intended. Macs can't even use touch (no, a trackpad doesn't count since you're not touching the screen).

Well, there you go. It’s according to how I want to use iPadOS which makes it limited. I think you are taking the approach as if I strictly use it as a tablet... limitation doesn’t exist. But if I choose to go out of those parameters… then limitation does present itself. Granted, the iPad is designed for touch... but Apple has provided mouse/trackpad support to give users options.

Now they went completely the other way with Windows 11 and now it sucks on the desktop and the tablet because it's trying to be jack of all trades and master of none. Microsoft never understood its mistake that separate form factors need different OS'es. Apple recognized it early on and separated iOS and iPadOS and never had macOS on iPhones. Even if iOS and iPadOS have a lot in common, they aren't the same.

I personally don’t see an issue with Windows 11 on the desktop or as a tablet. Not entirely sure how you come up with the conclusion that it sucks? At this point, they lack developer support when it comes to tablet optimized apps… but Windows 11 has optimized their interface for touch.

I simply don't see what's wrong with the iPad keeping its strengths while the MacBooks keep theirs. There will always be overlapping functionality between all of Apple's devices (or other tech companies for that matter), but you'll notice Apple sells both desktops and laptops. Despite running the same operating system, both have their strengths and weaknesses. Desktops are not really portable, not even the Mac mini nor Ultra since they don't have monitors. Laptops are, but are generally weaker than desktops in expandability, performance, and cost more for the benefit of higher portability. Just try sticking an M1 Ultra in a laptop. But Apple sells both because people have different needs. So why try to turn the tablet into something it isn't? Apple has always said buy the best tool for your needs whether it's a tablet, a laptop, a phone, or a desktop.

Huh? Why would someone want to pigeonhole a device or limit it’s functionality… that makes no sense. If a tablet is capable of doing more… why should someone limit its functionality. I understand both operating system have their strengths and weakness, but if I can use a tablet as a laptop and successful complete a task in that form factor... I don’t see how that’s a problem.

People also misconstrue "What is a computer?" Never did Apple say that the phrase meant they were going to turn the iPad into a MacBook. Prior to those commercials, people thought tablets were toys. Apple's advertising campaign was meant to show that iPads had power and could do a lot of things computers can do because it IS a computer. A computer is not always a laptop, but a laptop is a computer. Just as a tablet is not a laptop but is a computer. That's what the ad campaign meant. But the misunderstanding set off a firestorm for many years with people thinking it meant that iPad == MacBook when Apple never said any such thing.

Not sure what this has to do with anything. I never had a problem with calling an iPad a computer, but I never put two and two together as far as comparing the iPad and MacBook.. I’m fully aware they are two separate devices. One has a vast array of application support and a well established operating system whereas iPad hasn’t reached that level of development.

While it's commendable to want one device for all, I'd note that many of us here have desktops AND laptops AND tablets. Just why is that? Why can't the laptop replace all three? Or the tablet? Or the desktop? Maybe because all three are different devices that can do different things in different ways. I've never understood the obsession of turning a tablet into a laptop when it isn't one. I don't see anyone calling for laptops to replace all desktops. Nor do I see people calling for iPhones to replace iPads, yet most people who have an iPad also have a phone. Yet phones can do pretty much what tablets can do. The four devices create a tier of power from desktop down to phone with each tier slightly less powerful but more portable than the one below it.

Huh? That’s a broad statement. But plenty of people use their laptops as desktop. I’d wager there’s more people using their laptop as a desktop than buying a standalone desktop. Why would I buy a standalone desktop when the laptop is capable of successfully completing the task? It’s a cost saving aspect to it.

 

[xraydoc]

Huh? That’s a broad statement. But plenty of people use their laptops as desktop. I’d wager there’s more people using their laptop as a desktop than buying a standalone desktop. Why would I buy a standalone desktop when the laptop is capable of successfully completing the task? It’s a cost saving aspect to it.

I don’t think that’s what he meant. He’s saying that if one believes an iPad should do all that a laptop does in all cases, then why aren’t the same people saying a laptop should do the same as a desktop in all cases. Of course people aren’t saying this about laptops, so they shouldn’t be saying it about tablets.

 

[ponzicoinbro]

Holy **** it’s the 1000th time a few people having a fight that tablet operating system should be desktop operating systerm and desktop operating system shouldn’t be tablet operating system.

Let it go.

They are not going to merge.

They will only share some features but not in an identical way.

Look at Finder vs Files.

It should be stupid easy for Apple to port the full Finder to the iPad.

But it would be pointless. Many of the features won’t be used by tablet users.

So your fears are unfounded.

 

[Ludatyk]

I don’t think that’s what he meant. He’s saying that if one believes an iPad should do all that a laptop does in all cases, then why aren’t the same people saying a laptop should do the same as a desktop in all cases. Of course people aren’t saying this about laptops, so they shouldn’t be saying it about tablets.

Umm.. I think people are not asking for that because it’s gotten to the point where it’s more acceptable that a laptop can replace a desktop and the iPad hasn’t reached that point universally.

 

[Mainsail]

I don’t think that’s what he meant. He’s saying that if one believes an iPad should do all that a laptop does in all cases, then why aren’t the same people saying a laptop should do the same as a desktop in all cases. Of course people aren’t saying this about laptops, so they shouldn’t be saying it about tablets.

Well, if you connect your laptop to an external monitor (and perhaps add keyboard + mouse), then your laptop is pretty much functioning as a desktop. I recently bought a 24.5in 1080p monitor from a big box store for $119. So, it does not take much to get a laptop to behave like a desktop. Runs the same apps. Runs the same operating system. Have just as much screen real estate...maybe more if you aren't in clamshell mode.

Of course, you can not say the same for the iPad. Just adding a keyboard and mouse does not make it the same as a laptop. Apps and OS are just not equivalent. BTW - I am not saying that this is necessarily a bad thing. I just don't see: laptop is to desktop = iPad is to laptop.

 

[IllinoisCorn]

Spending a whole lot of time and money developing yet another OS for the iPad makes no sense. Users would expect the iPad still to be a tablet, just with MacOS.

It's not just a case of slapping the MacOS on an iPad; there are many other considerations to make that work. The UI would need to be redesigned for for touch. Deciding how to handle vertical and horizontal screen orientations. Dealing with differences in SoC design and performance. How to handle the virtual keyboard. Mouse buttons.

Then their are issues of cooling. A Mac can get a lot hotter since you don't have to hold it. So either you make an iPad thicker to allow for cooling or you throttle the processor to prevent the device from getting hot when held.

Usere will no doubt be unhappy if the Mini or Air can't run it because Apple decides the performance is not what they want.

It's a big bag of hurt that Apple does not need to open.

A much better approach is to ultimately design a new OS that merges the two form factors.



I doubt it.

All well said.

 

[Loismustdie1]

I do think Apple needs a big shake up of the software division. We had the Safari debacle last summer and now the half baked Stage Manager. Somehow features a making it through to the final stages without proper consideration and testing.

Stage Manager isn't a bad idea it's the implementation which is lacking and a lot of that I feel is with how it's tacked onto existing multitasking solutions rather than being integrated with them. And trying to force the feature to work on both Mac and iPad at the same time is driving this, they fundamentally have different paradigms.

Personally I'd pull it from Mac for now and focus on implementation on iPad. I'd also be tempted to have it purely as a solution for windowing on external displays where you have more real estate requiring windowing and interact with a pointer. When used on its own full screen or split view apps make more sense on the smaller displays with touch. The "strip" of recent windows should also sit to the left on both environments, auto-hidden when using full screen apps, providing consistency.

When it comes to the Mac the whole window management needs a rethink. The implementation of full screen apps and in particular split screen is incredibly limited. And then we have Spaces which Stage Manager effectively mimics. Mission Control, Spaces and Stage Manager need bringing together in one solution which is intuitive to use.

As someone with severe ADHD, I strongly disagree with the notion of pulling stage manager from macOS. It has been an absolute godsend for me and the most heavily new feature I use. I agree it still needs a lot more refinement (especially on iPad), but I can definitely say I am a lot more productive and on task because of stage manager. In my profession have lots of windows open at once and it’s so easy to group like windows with SM and quickly change sets as needed. Here’s hoping they nail it completely by the final version.

 

[Aggedor]

I love Magnet. Should be native functionality!

Yes! It absolutely should, it totally transforms how you use your Mac!

 

[Aggedor]

The funny thing is that’s usually the first thing I disable on a Windows computer. I want to adjust the windows the way I want to adjust them. There’s nothing I hate worse than trying to move a window and it snaps to the side.

With Magnet you can do both. Resize, reposition, if it snaps, ignore it.

 

[Ludatyk]

Of course, you can not say the same for the iPad. Just adding a keyboard and mouse does not make it the same as a laptop. Apps and OS are just not equivalent. BTW - I am not saying that this is necessarily a bad thing. I just don't see: laptop is to desktop = iPad is to laptop.

Again, I understand you are saying it’s not a bad thing. But if I add a MK to my iPad Pro… whether or not the OS isn’t equivalent to Windows/Mac. I’m using it as a laptop… because of it’s form factor.

We are psychology handicapped to the idea that the iPad cannot be more than what it is… but it is possible that it can do more things.

 

[unrigestered]

i don't need window snapping when using a mouse and surely would turn it off, but keyboard commands using arrow keys is indeed extremely awesome that macOS is severely lacking

while we're at it: i could also think of more useful things under "Double Click Header" in the "Dock / Menu Bar" in the Systems Preferences than just "zoom" (to some random window size) or "minimize window"... like "maximize window" or something else than just the (to me anyways) nearly useless former two settings currently available

 

[russell_314]

With Magnet you can do both. Resize, reposition, if it snaps, ignore it.

On a Mac you can double click the corners in a window to make it go all the way to the corner. Do that for two corners and it fits to screen. There's also a way to have the menu bar show in full screen so you can hit the green dot and it will act similar to Windows in how it locks in.

I haven't tried Magnet but the Windows implementation annoyed me because when I was just trying to move a window it would want to snap and resize the window. I guess if I had some patience I could have figured out how to use it better. I don't use my Windows PC for much other than gaming so it wasn't worth it to me. For the Mac I might try to see if this helps.

 

[unrigestered]

On a Mac you can double click the corners in a window to make it go all the way to the corner. Do that for two corners and it fits to screen.

option+click in just one corner is sufficient to make it "full screen".

still, arrow key commands, or a simple double click on the window header are still much faster and less finicky.

with key commands, you usually should have been able to place your window to all corners of the screen (incl. minimizing and maximizing) by the time you might have just placed the mouse cursor over the corners of a window.

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

Holy **** it’s the 1000th time a few people having a fight that tablet operating system should be desktop operating systerm and desktop operating system shouldn’t be tablet operating system.

Let it go.

They are not going to merge.

They will only share some features but not in an identical way.

Look at Finder vs Files.

It should be stupid easy for Apple to port the full Finder to the iPad.

But it would be pointless. Many of the features won’t be used by tablet users.

So your fears are unfounded.

It's true, iPads are strictly for your grandma to browse Facebook on for everything else there are real computers.

 

[Mainsail]

Again, I understand you are saying it’s not a bad thing. But if I add a MK to my iPad Pro… whether or not the OS isn’t equivalent to Windows/Mac. I’m using it as a laptop… because of it’s form factor.

We are psychology handicapped to the idea that the iPad cannot be more than what it is… but it is possible that it can do more things.

My comment was really related to the notion in a post that: laptop to desktop = iPad to laptop. It is not because you can add an external monitor to the laptop and still run the same OS and apps as the desktop. You can not do this with an iPad. You will still be running iPadOS and iPad Apps.

I agree that an iPad can be a laptop replacement for some people and their uses, as in your case. But, it is not analogous to using a laptop as a desktop….that’s a different kettle of fish.

 

[ponzicoinbro]

It's true, iPads are strictly for your grandma to browse Facebook on for everything else there are real computers.

Developers developers developers.

 

[tomtad]

On a Mac you can double click the corners in a window to make it go all the way to the corner.

🤯

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

And yet ever since Cook & Craig threw Forstall under the bus iOS & MacOSX have been plagued & riddled with bugs, incomplete or outright missing features and went from a "Best In Class" to "Worst In Class" state. There's a reason everyone waits til the .1 release (and later, if at all) to upgrade.

I vividly remember the days when Apple fans would routinely ridicule Microsoft for less.

this is just not true at all. Every initial version of Mac OS X and iOS has had issues.
Go on, read old reviews. There were plenty of people recommending to wait for the first initial update before installing on main machines.
The first several releases of OSX, cheetah, puma, and Jaguar, were riddled with UI inconsistencies and graphical failures. This is all documented, you can go read about it.

Mac OS X 10.0

Mac OS X is Apple’s new operating system. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the “X” is pronounced “ten”, like the roman number, not “ex” like the letter. Don’t make me come over there.

arstechnica.com

The initial launch of Snow leopard had a major issue that was erasing people‘s personal data off of their hard drives. Again go back and you can read about it.

Snow Leopard bug is eating user data

Some angry Apple users find that the new Mac OS is deleting folders thanks to a bug in the system.

www.itpro.com

The launch of iPhone OS 2.0 with the App Store and Mobile Me was one of Apple’s rockiest in history, even compared to some of the recent ones. People got fired, there were plenty of issues, there were servers crashed for days on end, it was very much a bad launch.

Today in Apple history: Steve Jobs acknowledges MobileMe failure

On August 4, 2008, the Apple CEO sent a memo to staffers addressing the massive mistakes made with the disastrous MobileMe launch.

www.cultofmac.com

at least Steve acknowledged that one was a failure, unlike Scott with Maps.

iOS4 on the iPhone 3G was infamous, so infamous that Apple stopped supporting it halfway through the update cycle.

iOS 4 and iPhone 3G is a match made in... what's the opposite of heaven?

Update: It's true -- the 4.1 update does wonders for the iPhone 3G's health and happiness on iOS 4. Do you have an iPhone 3G? Me, too. Have you updated it to iOS 4 yet? If the veins are popping out of your neck and your skin is turning green, you probably have. If your iPhone 3G hasn't been...

www.engadget.com

It didn’t even get all the way to 4.3, they just stopped in the middle of the iOS 4 cycle because it was so bad.
Push Notifications were supposed to launch with iPhone OS 2.0 in 2008. They were announced in June 2008 with a launch date of September 2008.
They didn’t end up launching until September 2009 with iPhone OS 3.1, over a year late
The iPhone 4s and iOS 5 initial launch had huge battery drain issues that Apple took an entire six months to fix.
Then there was Apple Maps.
It’s the rose tinted glasses affect, the grass is always greener on the other side, etc.
Apple didn’t have as many bugs and issues and delayed features under Scott and Steve… Until you look and find out that they actually did.
They had rough initial launches, they had delayed features, they had plenty of issues.
What they didn’t have is over 1 billion active users, and a constant stream of people telling you how bad they are, which makes everything look worse.

 

[J InTech82]

Sure looks like a good excuse to justify throwing stuff at problem without actually solving it. It’s a bit like … we don’t know how to solve it so we give you lots of options for you to find a solution by yourself.

In my experience this makes the system unnecessarily complex and clumsy ..: is traditionally the Microsoft approach. Not the Apple I got used to.

But hey … things change.

So you’re saying everyone should just use the Mac the exact same way and not what works for them? They are solving a problem. For people who have a very cluttered work environment, this solves that. At least for me.

 

[Nuno Lopes]

So you’re saying everyone should just use the Mac the exact same way and not what works for them?

No. What I said is that having 4 very distinct ways to manage multiple apps on the display is unnecessarily complex. Especially when the subject / problem is already well known. Furthermore I’ve said that the new solution requires way more display real state than others, which becomes particularly cumbersome when the display size is small … the case of iPads.

I was very specific with my criticism.

Now you have chosen to counter argue with a platitude … “more options is a good thing”. Apart from being a tangent to what I’ve said, that is not necessarily true, especially when options aren’t really that good.

If an inconsistent solution, still in beta, solves your desktop clutter problem … good for you. Makes me wonder how you use your Mac … must be really a mess.

I generally find it way easier to get things done on a Mac than an iPad. Only very specific and not so often used things the iPad offers a more ergonomic solution, multi tasking is definitely not one of them. Even though I had almost every single iPad version since inception … I’m a believer of the format ... but for how long? Starting to loose my patience after 10 years of waiting for it to move beyond web browsing, photo editing and a few games ... its next year and next year ...

Cheers.