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Apple Criticizes U.S. Antitrust Bill That Targets the App Store
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Nothing is stopping you from staying inside apple’s walled garden.
Why do you want to force others to do the same?
So, you prefer a bunch of tech billionaires who are only interested in maximizing their profits at your expense to make our country’s policy?
dumastudetto
macrumors 603
This is hideous.
The government are hellbent on destroying its greatest asset.
The government are hellbent on destroying its greatest asset.
Got a related counter-example: a lot of people here, regarding car infotainment and dashboard decision news, have explicitly said that since X or Y company (Chevrolet, Rivian, etc) has decided to lock them out of Apple’s CarPlay, their current car will be the last one. Many of them have expressed that they only consider cars that support CarPlay.
Also, there was no need for any anti-monopoly on cars’ infotainment lock-in to help the consumer out… the consumers simply choose and go to where they are treated best without having to force car’s manufacturers to have to do what they don’t even want to do.
jakey rolling
macrumors 65816
The Lightning Connector was the exact reason why forcing Apple to adopt USB-C was the right choice. The industry was adopting standards (Micro-USB was already the natural standard at the time and USB-C was emerging pretty much everywhere as its replacement). LC was better than MicroUSB in literally only one way: it allowed people to plug a cable in without worrying about its orientation. It was also proprietary in a world moving toward standardization, and worst of all, it was incredibly fragile. It only lasted as long as it did because of Apple's early dominance in the smartphone market and third-party manufacturers needing to support iPhones.
Had Apple moved to a standard USB connector along with the rest of the industry, there would have been no need to make connection standards a part of the DMA. The most egregious parts of the DMA that people are complaining about in this thread (and every other thread that talks about the DMA) are things that are there because Apple abused their market position.
surferfb
macrumors 68030
Obviously not who you’re talk responding to, but the extremely short version is: writing what ports devices have to use into law is extremely likely to freeze innovation.
No one is going to spend the money to develop a new port that can’t be used in Europe, so a new port never arises.
Given the EU previously wanted to mandate Micro-USB, in part because they said it was unlikely a better port would come out, many people think it’s incredibly shortsighted to assume usb-c couldn’t get better or smaller. And now it won’t.
spazzcat
macrumors 601
Where the EU got it wrong, they shouldn't have made USB-C standard but ban Micro/Mini USB. The reason being we will never see any future advances in this tech becasue no one is going to pay to fight the EU to create a new standard.
jakey rolling
macrumors 65816
This isn't true in the slightest. Apple doesn't have to "make" any third party product work. They only have to provide access to the API used for providing the pairing and communication protocols that are currently locked to Apple's devices. Literally Apple needs to do nothing but document the API and remove the extra code they added to lock down that API.
Your strawman argument here is just as nonsensical as the one so many people around here keep pushing that "Apple should just not provide warranty service for third party software flaws." (for those who don't understand why this is actually nonsense - neither Apple nor any other computer manufacturer in the history of computer manufacturers have ever provided warranty support for third party software).
jakey rolling
macrumors 65816
I can see where you're coming from here. I've been waiting what, nearly 65 years for a new standard connection for all these 110 volt outlets in my home. Not sure why I need something different, but "new tech" is always better, so I know I must be missing out on something, right?
spazzcat
macrumors 601
Based on that logic we should be still using 30-pin and USB-A
surferfb
macrumors 68030
Well ignoring the fact that your phone has a roughly 2-3 year replacement cycle regardless of the connector, while changing outlets means ripping out building wiring nationwide with no natural occasion to do it, it’d be nice if my power plugs also provided data to my devices.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
I didn’t realize how much stupid Lightning was holding me back until I finally got this 17 Pro Max and can just use the same cable and charger I use for everything else.
It’s become a real pain in the butt to keep around one special precious cable for my old phone that’s still in use by family.
Absolutely ridiculous. And the old phone was a 13 Pro, the year I was sure they would finally stop that nonsense.
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"Die EU-Kommission hat gemäß dem Gesetz über digitale Märkte (DMA) Booking als Gatekeeper für seinen Online-Vermittlungsdienst Booking.com benannt."
EU-Kommission benennt Booking als Gatekeeper und prüft Widerspruch von X
Die EU-Kommission hat gemäß dem Gesetz über digitale Märkte (DMA) Booking als Gatekeeper für seinen Online-Vermittlungsdienst Booking.com benannt. Außerdem hat sie eine Marktuntersuchung eingeleitet, um die Gegendarstellung in Bezug auf X eingehender zu prüfen.
Happy_John
macrumors 68000
It would be an issue if 1) the 110 volt outlets cannot provide enough power for the appliances you're using, and 2) if you are using the circuits in your home to also carry data, and the speed is too slow.
That's where your analogy breaks down. The revisions of USB, running primarily through eh USB-C connector standard, can provide more power and faster data, so it is better, and is worth changing over to.
There's a good reason why a lot of the world uses 220-240v rather than 110v, and it's a very similar reason as to why moving to USB-C from Lightning is a good idea.
WannaGoMac
macrumors 68030
Exactly. Thats why this and the eu DMA are hypocritical.
How about car companies blocking CarPlay and android auto?
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I feel the same way 😆. Unfortunately my keyboards, mice and one Apple TV remote still require a Lightning cable for charging. But at least I won't need to think about the additional cable when travelling, so that's an improvement.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
In other words, apples customer voted with their $$$ that the lightning connector was down in the priority on the list of negatives or not on the list at all.
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I7guy
macrumors Westmere
I don’t know about how people travel but I travel with multiple chargers and cables anyway for redundancy. Whether it’s three cables or four is absolutely irrelevant at least to me.
Now as far as the bill, I hope Americans exercise their November Tuesday rights and do the right thing.
zoozx
macrumors 6502a
spazzcat
macrumors 601
I carry the same number cables as before, now they are just all USBC. And I nomally throw a Lighting in the bag in case soemone else needs one.
spazzcat
macrumors 601
I never once had an issue finding someone with a lighting cable if somehow I didn't have one.
