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They co-existed, which was incredibly messy.
I remember people not believing me when I said the 10th gen ipad entered the lineup as a new tier and would filter down to the 9th gen price once the 9th gen was removed from the lineup. Many insisted the 10th gen was the new bottom tier iPad despite it coexisting with the 9th gen.
 
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This is annoying.
Whenever I upgrade my iPad I trade it in to CEX in the UK - so I have to provide everything I have including box, charger, and cable.

Ill be getting a new iPad with no charger now so I have no choice but to go and buy another one.

Do apple and other manufacturers think that when you are upgrading you get to keep all the old chargers and cables? Might be true in some cases but not in others.
 
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Well the current iPad doesn't support Apple Intelligence.
But they can't 'fix' that now. Putting an A17 pro (which would also mean more RAM and storage for Apple Intelligence) in it would make the lineup even weirder than it is right now if they want to maintain the current pricing.

Don't think we'll see Apple intelligence in the base iPad for at least 2 years.
 
Dunno, just thought the entry iPad still had this big bezel and the TouchId button. Glad to hear that isn’t actually the case anymore
You're probably thinking of the 9th gen model which for a while was actually being sold alongside the 10th gen, but isn't any longer. To be honest, I kinda miss the classic design with the bezels and the home button, on iPads and iPhones.
 
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This is annoying.
Whenever I upgrade my iPad I trade it in to CEX in the UK - so I have to provide everything I have including box, charger, and cable.

Ill be getting a new iPad with no charger now so I have no choice but to go and buy another one.

Do apple and other manufacturers think that when you are upgrading you get to keep all the old chargers and cables? Might be true in some cases but not in others.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they think. Or at least, that's how they justify this cost saving measure.
Personally, when I upgrade my iPad I always give away or sell my previous one, and its charger (and ever original packaging) goes with it.
 
You're probably thinking of the 9th gen model which for a while was actually being sold alongside the 10th gen, but isn't any longer. To be honest, I kinda miss the classic design with the bezels and the home button, on iPads and iPhones.
I just bought one at $199 from Best Buy. It’s certainly not my go to anymore (11” iPad Pro is now), but it works quite well for what it is.
 
This is annoying.
Whenever I upgrade my iPad I trade it in to CEX in the UK - so I have to provide everything I have including box, charger, and cable.

Ill be getting a new iPad with no charger now so I have no choice but to go and buy another one.

Do apple and other manufacturers think that when you are upgrading you get to keep all the old chargers and cables? Might be true in some cases but not in others.
The good news is that once you‘ve purchased that charger you'll be able to keep it and use it for years to come with multiple different devices thus helping to reduce your environmental impact.
 
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I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they think. Or at least, that's how they justify this cost saving measure.

That doesn't make sense because 1, you can buy any charger, Apple or not and 2, EU legislation soon forbids having only a bundled option with a charger and 3, most people have chargers.
 
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I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they think. Or at least, that's how they justify this cost saving measure.
Personally, when I upgrade my iPad I always give away or sell my previous one, and its charger (and ever original packaging) goes with it.
Yep.

The likes of you and I who give away/sell a previous model (Id argue thats the responsible thing to do instead of leaving it to rot in a drawer) are disadvantaged now as we wont get a charger.
You certainly cant sell it with a charger shaped hole in the box arguing that you aren't going to get a new one with your new iPad.

If I were to trade in using, say, apple then sure id just have to send back the iPad itself and therefore you can argue the justification for not giving another charger in the box but thats not what Im having to do here.
 
Yep.

The likes of you and I who give away/sell a previous model (Id argue thats the responsible thing to do instead of leaving it to rot in a drawer) are disadvantaged now as we wont get a charger.
You certainly cant sell it with a charger shaped hole in the box arguing that you aren't going to get a new one with your new iPad.

If I were to trade in using, say, apple then sure id just have to send back the iPad itself and therefore you can argue the justification for not giving another charger in the box but thats not what Im having to do here.
CEX will likely have to change their policies and only require the device itself when trading in (or I guess they’ll lose business). There’d be no point in CEX requiring the charger when you trade in if they legally can’t resell the device with a charger included.

The whole point of the regulation is to divorce the charging apparatus from the device, everyone will have to change.
 
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I thought this would at least get a bump to A15 (also used in the iPhone 14 that is still on sale) just so they no longer have to produce A14 chips.
 
CEX will likely have to change their policies and only require the device itself when trading in (or I guess they’ll lose business). There’d be no point in CEX requiring the charger when you trade in if they legally can’t resell the device with a charger included.

The whole point of the regulation is to divorce the charging apparatus from the device, everyone will have to change.
Though I appreciate what you are saying...

The idea with CEX is that items are graded A, B, C. An A grade (always my stuff!) is well cared for and sold pretty much as pristine including all original items in the box.

If I were to omit an original accessory then it goes immediately from A to B regardless of the pristine condition of the iPad, box, and cable. The difference between the two in terms of value is £49 which is far more than a replacement charger.

I guess the problem is mine and not CEX's. Someone buying an old A grade iPad expects a charger in the box.

Frankly a new Apple branded one in Amazon is £15 for 20w - so I just have to suck that up if I am heading upwards from now on.
 
Probably means no new entry-level iPad this year.
Probably means no new entry-level iPad this year.
I guess my kid will have to wait with the iPad Air 2 until 2025 then.

Or, one can hope the price cut is not just because of the changes in currency exchange rates but also partially to reflect this legacy 64 GB storage tier, in preparation for a new 128 GB entry level tier, coming for iPad 11 sooner rather than later. Also, I wonder if iPad 11th generation will get a new SoC with enough memory to support Apple Intelligence. (This was touched upon in the iPad mini thread.)
 
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Though I appreciate what you are saying...

The idea with CEX is that items are graded A, B, C. An A grade (always my stuff!) is well cared for and sold pretty much as pristine including all original items in the box.

If I were to omit an original accessory then it goes immediately from A to B regardless of the pristine condition of the iPad, box, and cable. The difference between the two in terms of value is £49 which is far more than a replacement charger.

I guess the problem is mine and not CEX's. Someone buying an old A grade iPad expects a charger in the box.

Frankly a new Apple branded one in Amazon is £15 for 20w - so I just have to suck that up if I am heading upwards from now on.

Is it really that annoying?

Assumably you own Apple for their premium product and a measly £20 has you this up in arms?
 
Is it really that annoying?

Assumably you own Apple for their premium product and a measly £20 has you this up in arms?
Whereas you might be some social media keyboard warrior..

Not everyone is 'up in arms' over everything.

Hyperbole isn't necessary here.

The point being, as Im sure you well know, stopping providing an essential item in the box i.e the charger is all very well when it assumes you have 'loads of old ones you aren't using'.

Whereas, in the scenario ive carefully and calmly explained, this is not true and we have to sell the old one to have it not replaced with the new.

So, yes, this is annoying.
Annoying, but not anything to get 'up in arms' about.

Not everything is high drama.
 
Though I appreciate what you are saying...

The idea with CEX is that items are graded A, B, C. An A grade (always my stuff!) is well cared for and sold pretty much as pristine including all original items in the box.

If I were to omit an original accessory then it goes immediately from A to B regardless of the pristine condition of the iPad, box, and cable. The difference between the two in terms of value is £49 which is far more than a replacement charger.

I guess the problem is mine and not CEX's. Someone buying an old A grade iPad expects a charger in the box.

Frankly a new Apple branded one in Amazon is £15 for 20w - so I just have to suck that up if I am heading upwards from now on.
you're much better of buying one from ikea then, it has power deilvery and can do 1x 45w or 2x 22w, for the low price of a tenner:

IKEA UK:
IKEA US: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/-10574470

IKEA DE/FR/NL/ETC:
(for rest of Europe: replace country/language codes in the url for your own to get to the product in your local market)
 
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Basically confirms no new base iPad is coming anytime soon. Why else would they go through all this trouble?
They have to create a new SKU, and new packaging label text. They also have to create a new packaging procedure, but it will be the same procedure as for the next iPad, so it's no extra cost. That all probably cost them $10K. Meanwhile they save $3M. It's not that much trouble. I'm sure there is an edict, even at Apple, to create efficiencies where they can.
 
Yep.

The likes of you and I who give away/sell a previous model (Id argue thats the responsible thing to do instead of leaving it to rot in a drawer) are disadvantaged now as we wont get a charger.
You certainly cant sell it with a charger shaped hole in the box arguing that you aren't going to get a new one with your new iPad.

If I were to trade in using, say, apple then sure id just have to send back the iPad itself and therefore you can argue the justification for not giving another charger in the box but thats not what Im having to do here.
Complain to the EU.
 
Whereas you might be some social media keyboard warrior..

Not everyone is 'up in arms' over everything.

Hyperbole isn't necessary here.

The point being, as Im sure you well know, stopping providing an essential item in the box i.e the charger is all very well when it assumes you have 'loads of old ones you aren't using'.

Whereas, in the scenario ive carefully and calmly explained, this is not true and we have to sell the old one to have it not replaced with the new.

So, yes, this is annoying.
Annoying, but not anything to get 'up in arms' about.

Not everything is high drama.
People really need to watch their words. You never know when you may step on one of those mines that explodes in a wave of patronization.
 
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