Apple Defends Against Microsoft in 'App Store' Trademark Dispute

[mKTank]

Why not? They're a multi-billion dollar company, and software is supposed to be their craft...yet, they had seven chances to get it right, and didn't.

How about Google and Apple? Both companies were very rich and it took them years to get to where they are now. Also, it took them two tries. WM in general was one attempt + a ton of fix attempts. WP7 is their first fresh attempt after Windows Mobile/Pocket PC, and they got it so right this time I can't even stand it anymore.

Who cares what Windows 7 is based on or if it's a different architecture. The R&D, UI know-how should have been there from all their previous experience.

Ugh, please keep up with the terminology. I'm talking about WP7 here. Attention span issues? Every company makes mistakes. Microsoft did, big time. But WP7 is truly their big fix, a fresh start for the smartphone market and, like I said, it's nothing like WM. Before bashing it, at least give it a proper try.

Ballmer outwardly dismissed the iPhone at it's launch.

People here outwardly dismissed Android at its launch. I guess that means this community and Ballmer have one thing in common: they both suck at predicting the future.

 

[stuffradio]

Selfish Microsoft..

They coin the most generic term "Windows" and when they lose out this round to "App Store" they want to whine.

Bugger off Microsoft you missed it!

I bet you anything if Microsoft was first to the "App Store" name they would try to patent it. They're so two faced!

They WERE first to the "App Store". Read up on Kin in early 2000's. See this article: http://blogs.computerworld.com/14893/microsoft_kills_the_sidekick_the_first_smart_phone_is_dead

So before you blindly follow the Apple masses and think Apple came up with the App store first, remember Apple did what it did best... copy something and made it better. They innovated, but they didn't invent.

 

[mKTank]

They WERE first to the "App Store". Read up on Kin in early 2000's. See this article: http://blogs.computerworld.com/14893/microsoft_kills_the_sidekick_the_first_smart_phone_is_dead

So before you blindly follow the Apple masses and think Apple came up with the App store first, remember Apple did what it did best... copy something and made it better. They innovated, but they didn't invent.

Oh God, how did I not know this?

Thank you sir. You've pretty much won Microsoft's case.

 

[stuffradio]

Oh God, how did I not know this?

Thank you sir. You've pretty much won Microsoft's case.

The Lawyers don't think so... it's not to say Apple doesn't come up with sexy hardware and UI's, but to say that Apple always invents everything is very irritating.

 

[mKTank]

The Lawyers don't think so... it's not to say Apple doesn't come up with sexy hardware and UI's, but to say that Apple always invents everything is very irritating.

Indeed.

But who knows, maybe common sense will help Microsoft win this one.

 

[JAT]

In reality it was an operating system. Think about what an operating system does (the core basics if you will) and Windows did that.

If that's what you think, I'm not sure you ever actually used DOSSHELL 7.0. (often called "Windows 3.1")

 

[AppleScruff1]

That's hilarious. oh Microsoft, you're hypocrisy is quite funny.

So is Apple's.

and at Apple for trying to trademark generic names/terms. They spend more money filing patents than on innovation at this point.. ipad 1.5 case in point.

Not to mention stealing the Apple name and trademark from the Beatles.

Selfish Microsoft..

They coin the most generic term "Windows" and when they lose out this round to "App Store" they want to whine.

Bugger off Microsoft you missed it!

I bet you anything if Microsoft was first to the "App Store" name they would try to patent it. They're so two faced!

Funny thing is, Apple has become worse than Microsoft and IBM, two companies they were so dead set against in the past. Now that's hypocrisy.

 

[JAT]

I doubt any Mac user would waste their time on a Windows specific web site.

You mean repair shop websites?

 

[mKTank]

You mean repair shop websites?

Yep. Unlike being forced to go crying back to Apple who will take care of you for a couple hundred more dollars for a 5 dollar fix.


But they love you!

 

[Bonds79]

Back in January, Microsoft filed an objection to Apple's trademark application for the term "App Store", arguing that Apple had usurped a generic term for its trademark, causing confusion and difficulties for other companies seeking to promote their own application marketplaces.

TechFlash now reports that Apple has hit back at Microsoft in the dispute, arguing that Microsoft has failed to prove the generic nature of the term and takes a dig at Microsoft and its own work to secure "Windows" as a non-generic trademark.Apple response points directly to the alternative names used by other companies for their own application marketplaces as evidence of the non-generic nature of the "App Store" term, and notes that the company has taken steps to protect the trademark from becoming a generic term by reaching out to entities that have used it improperly.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office will now consider the case and determine to grant Microsoft's motion or allow the trademark case to go to trial for a final resolution.

Article Link: Apple Defends Against Microsoft in 'App Store' Trademark Dispute

oh geez Microsoft should worry about fixing Windows Phone 7 and as for apple,
they have enough problems losing ground to Android, they need just work on refreshing and revamping iOS it is getting kinda old and stale!

 

[lPHONE]

"Apple has hit back at Microsoft in the dispute, arguing that Microsoft has failed to prove the generic nature of the term and takes a dig at Microsoft and its own work to secure "Windows" as a non-generic trademark."

GO APPLE GO!

Apple deserves this trademark! They pioneered apps and the multitouch devices they work on! Microsoft, droid and all the other copycats can burn in hell.

 

[Apple Corps]

Windows is a product, App Store is a service. Apples and Oranges (no pun intended).

Services ARE products....

 

[lPHONE]

If anyone should be suing about App Store it's android, so google. What app store does Microsoft have?

The EXE STORE, don't you remember?

 

[Apple Corps]

"Apple has hit back at Microsoft in the dispute, arguing that Microsoft has failed to prove the generic nature of the term and takes a dig at Microsoft and its own work to secure "Windows" as a non-generic trademark."

GO APPLE GO!

Apple deserves this trademark! They pioneered apps and the multitouch devices they work on! Microsoft, droid and all the other copycats can burn in hell.

+1 - let Balmer stew over this one.

 

[Mr. Gates]

Sorry if this is too off topic,...But the event is tomorrow.

Shouldn't we have a leaked photo by now???


iPad 2 might be under wraps and more secure than people think.

No Leaks mean its Super important and will have a few cool tricks.


I Hope.........the first one Sucked

 

[ctrlshft]

M$ is going to lose face on this one. Apple has owned the App Store name with a vengeance for at least 5 years. The arguments over this being about whether Apple is claiming to own the term "app" is stupid and ill-conceived.

Arguments about the App Store being literally a store that has apps, is just plain silly. They could've called it the "App Shop" or "App Place" or "App Market" or "App Depot". It's a dead talking point.

Bottom line, Apple owns the mind-share for the phrase "App Store". It isn't generic. Of course everyone knows what the App Store is, and of course everyone knows what the App Store offers, but most importantly in this case, everyone knows who runs it.

 

[lPHONE]

pics like this make me happy

 

[Wolfpup]

"App store" is both stupid, and generic. (Ugh...calling programs "apps" is becoming increasingly maddening...)

Whether Windows is generic too is not relevant to this, and anyway Microsoft doesn't sell "Windows", they sell Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, etc. This isn't App store Vista or something, so it's not the same thing regardless.

 

[lPHONE]

Spoken like somebody who has never even tried one. If you weren't talking out of your ass, you'd know just how unique WP7 is.

Yea, it's so unique that 3 people are using it.
Name 1 good app that's unique to the Windows Lol Phone

 

[*LTD*]

What is the point for MS to fight Apple for this?

You think "App Store" . . . you think "Apple."

MS already lost. Mindshare is on Apple's side. Overwhelmingly.

Maybe if they spent more time actually bringing great things to market like Apple they wouldn't spend time and money on wasteful BS like this. Skewed priorities and lousy management at MS causes retarded decision-making, causing them to look like idiots in major growth markets.

Yet another reason Apple has MS in their rearview.

Fix your lousy consumer products, MS. Fix your mobile stuff. Fix your OS. Quit adding complexity on top of more complexity. Quit promising things today that you'll only manage to deliver 3-4 years AFTER someone else has already perfected the idea. Quit shoving bad OSes onto 1000000 different hardware configurations. Start paying attention to detail. Grow some balls and take risks. Start making your own hardware and start controlling the platform. Stop whoring out your bad software to anyone that can slam together a box. You didn't actually win the desktop wars, you just licensed your crap to everyone, so that eventually everyone was running different versions and configurations of the same crap. This is why you make Apple look so brilliant these days.

It's all about priorities. Pursuing Apple over what Apple already chewed up and spat out; getting people to install cameras in their living rooms so they can jump around in front of their Xboxes; being late to market with stuff someone else did better two years ago, etc. The list goes on.

I hope MS loses (not that "winning" in this case will make any difference for them), because it might finally wake them up to market realities, namely, that they're a lame organization that can no longer compete on product strength (I can't recall the last time they really did) but on licensing rackets.

 

[Starship77]

"Now of course, as a mac user, I also love working with windows... ...I mean, windows, not windows!" - Craig Federighi (VP Engineering)

Damn you Microsoft and your generic terms!

 

[Full of Win]

What is the point for MS to fight Apple for this?

You think "App Store" . . . you think "Apple."

MS already lost. Mindshare is on Apple's side. Overwhelmingly.

Maybe if they spent more time actually bringing great things to market like Apple they wouldn't spend time and money on wasteful BS like this. Skewed priorities and lousy management at MS causes retarded decision-making, causing them to look like idiots in major growth markets.

Yet another reason Apple has MS in their rearview.

Fix your lousy consumer products, MS. Fix your mobile stuff. Fix your OS. Quit adding complexity on top of more complexity. Quit promising things today that you'll only manage to deliver 3-4 years AFTER someone else has already perfected the idea. Quit shoving bad OSes onto 1000000 different hardware configurations. Start paying attention to detail. Grow some balls and take risks. Start making your own hardware and start controlling the platform. Stop whoring out your bad software to anyone that can slam together a box. You didn't actually win the desktop wars, you just licensed your crap to everyone, so that eventually everyone was running different versions and configurations of the same crap. This is why you make Apple look so brilliant these days.

It's all about priorities. Pursuing Apple over what Apple already chewed up and spat out; getting people to install cameras in their living rooms so they can jump around in front of their Xboxes; being late to market with stuff someone else did better two years ago, etc. The list goes on.

I hope MS loses (not that "winning" in this case will make any difference for them), because it might finally wake them up to market realities, namely, that they're a lame organization that can no longer compete on product strength (I can't recall the last time they really did) but on licensing rackets.

Why not.... its called fishing.

They have billions in the bank, they have an army of top notch lawyers, Apple needs them (as in Microsoft) and Apple has little leverage to exercise against Microsoft. Look at it this way, if they did not challenge it, then Apple wins. If they challenge it and it is not upheld, the Apple wins and they are out an insignificant amount of money.

As to the other points...where to begin.

Quit promising things today that you'll only manage to deliver 3-4 years AFTER someone else has already perfected the idea.

You mean something like TRIM, Open GL 3, a vector based UI? These are all areas where Microsoft has delivered and Apple has not or not to a significant level. Sure, there are also areas where Apple kicks Microsoft butt, just saying it cuts BOTH ways.

Quit shoving bad OSes onto 1000000 different hardware configurations.

Start making your own hardware and start controlling the platform. Stop whoring out your bad software to anyone that can slam together a box. You didn't actually win the desktop wars, you just licensed your crap to everyone, so that eventually everyone was running different versions and configurations of the same crap

DIfferent approaches. Cannot argue that many windows systems are crap (e.g. the 299 AMD special at BigLots). With that said, we should also accept that having an OS with the flexibility of Windows is something that should be admired. I think we all owe Microsoft a tip of the hat.I like the fact that Windows has a more 'hands off' approach and not force you to resort to technical hacks to get get the OS onto the system of your choice.

 

[mKTank]

Yea, it's so unique that 3 people are using it.
Name 1 good app that's unique to the Windows Lol Phone

Mobile Office, Xbox Live, Live Tiles, etc etc etc.

Also, over two million users are using it and growing...after only 4 months.

 

[Mr. Gates]

I is known that Microsoft has referred to Applications as "Apps"...Longer than Apple.

Windows Mobile 6.5 has had times when they refer to them as "App's" too

So by the same logic Apple is using,...

Microsoft should be allowed to block Apple from using the term "App" All together !!

Now don't go all fanboy on me guys,....

I'm just pointing out a fact.

 

[rogerdee123]

Nokia and Microsoft file lots (and own a lot of key) patents. Yet, all I hear about them is how they aren't innovators.

Forget what you hear about them .... what do you think about them ?

But never mind .... I don't care