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Off topic, please show link me to where you rooted your EVO with 2.3.
On topic: its kind of pathetic... the granduer of it all... that just adding Apple to the "app store" moniker, would quash all our bickering and hatred.
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Apple Defends Against Microsoft in 'App Store' Trademark Dispute
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Off topic, please show link me to where you rooted your EVO with 2.3.
On topic: its kind of pathetic... the granduer of it all... that just adding Apple to the "app store" moniker, would quash all our bickering and hatred.
hard to understand sarcasm over the internet.
i apologize if my response seemed vindictive.
I'm not sure Kleenex or Band-Aid make for a perfect analogy either. Kleenex and Band-Aid are both invented terms - they nearly lost their trademarks because the brands became so ubiquitous, not because the terms themselves were generic.
There are two big reasons that you didn't hear references to an "app store" before Apple's announcement, I think: one, the word "app" hadn't yet entered the popular lexicon, and two, there weren't any high-profile for-profit software repositories. (I wasn't even aware Microsoft had a "Windows Marketplace" in Windows Vista/7).
No one is disputing that the term "app store" was never used in its current context prior to the Apple App Store, and only those of us with extremely selective memories are claiming that Apple coined the term "app." In this case, I think that the trademark is diluted enough that it doesn't matter that it came first (you were entirely correct in your assessment of my argument).
Considering that it's only two and a half years later, and there are already at least three high-profile services that can be legitimately described as "app stores," I don't feel Apple has grounds to claim the term "app store" as their own.
App Store is a perfect trademark
App Store is a perfect trademark, it's short, easy to remember, and tells you exactly what the product or service is. Good to see the Microsoft marketing department participating in these threads.
lol dork.
App Store is a perfect trademark, it's short, easy to remember, and tells you exactly what the product or service is. Good to see the Microsoft marketing department participating in these threads.
lol dork.
App Store is a perfect trademark, it's short, easy to remember, and tells you exactly what the product or service is. Good to see the Microsoft marketing department participating in these threads.
lol dork.
Exactly why it should be Apple App Store. It identifies the company, product, and service in only three words.
Even iApp Store.
Same way they changed iChat to Facetime. Never too late for change.
It is indeed NOT on Microsoft's trademark listing.
also not very generic.
Windows being the product, service... exploring being the action. where else do you "windows explore"?
I see a lot of hypocritical MSFT fanboys on here. You attack Apple for "app" but ignore windows, office, word, excel, access, outlook, exchange, visual, studio and expression.
The "Mac App Store" and "App Store" are not generic because they are the online software stores that sells "apps" with an app file extension.
MSFT is free to create an "EXE store" or an "Program Store" as those are terms which they use in their OS documentation and literature.
From early on, Apple has used the term "application" or "app" to refer to programs and these programs were bundled inside an application package called a fat binary which had not only the executable code but also resources. With the advent of OS X, applications were provided in application bundles with the extension of ".app". If you choose to display extensions, you will see that all applications in the /Applications/ folder have a ".app" extension.
Applications on iOS devices also have .app extension but you just never see it unless if you jailbreak the device and use a file manager.
In a nutshell, the "app store" on iOS and the "Mac App store" on OS X sell "app" packages whereas other platforms do not.
The "Mac App Store" and "App Store" are not generic because they are the online software stores that sells "apps" with an app file extension.
MSFT is free to create an "EXE store" or an "Program Store" as those are terms which they use in their OS documentation and literature.
From early on, Apple has used the term "application" or "app" to refer to programs and these programs were bundled inside an application package called a fat binary which had not only the executable code but also resources. With the advent of OS X, applications were provided in application bundles with the extension of ".app". If you choose to display extensions, you will see that all applications in the /Applications/ folder have a ".app" extension.
Applications on iOS devices also have .app extension but you just never see it unless if you jailbreak the device and use a file manager.
In a nutshell, the "app store" on iOS and the "Mac App store" on OS X sell "app" packages whereas other platforms do not.
As said earlier in this discussion, Mac App Store is fine, Apple App Store is fine.
Microsoft does not just call thier products office, word, etc.
Product Listing:
Microsoft Windows XP
Microsoft Windows Vista
Microsoft Windows 7
Microsoft Office Xp
Microsoft Office 2010
Microsoft Marketplace
Microsoft identifies itself in its service or products.
Even Blackberry with Blackbery App World.
microsoft simply does not want apple to trademark the term "app store" by itself, eliminating themselves or anyone else from using app store in a future instances.
So you just posted without reading the thread obviously. Come back after you've examined: http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/EN-US.aspx
Should be? I think a point that you are missing is that Apple wants to use the trademark across a range of stores. Currently the (iOS) App Store and the Mac App Store. Maybe the AppleTV App Store in the future.
Than how would the masses even know since Jailbreaking is deemed evil by Apple?
Exactly why Apple App Store would work.
It doesnt get into specifics. Apple App Store would work across every platform.
None of those terms can be used to describe the product, though - there's a level of abstraction between the product's name and functionality that isn't present with "app store."
No, that's a straw man. The "app" in "App Store" isn't a reference to the .app extension, and you know it. It's a reference to an "app," as in "application software," a term which Apple popularized but did not invent.
Want proof? Applications on iOS devices do NOT use the .app extension, contrary to your claim. It's .ipa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ipa_(file_extension)
I do indeed remember it, and it wasn't called an app store (Handango InHand), it still isn't now. It's still called "Handango InHand". I think when I first used it it was just called Handango and it was *****, i just used Palmgear instead.
They do however now use "app-store" in their URL and title, most likely for SEO purposes. Unfortunately I am unable to confirm this due to archive.org being down for maintenance, but I'm sure we won't find any reference to "app store" prior to the iPhone 3G.
The only people who even use the term "App Store" is arguably amazon in 2011 (although it's "Appstore") and LG/Samsung with "Application Store" since 2009, all after the Apple's "App Store"
Thank you. It's just so facetious how quick you mongrels here are to deride a person you disagree with, when your comprehension of the subject matter is, well, not substantial.
Apple made a dumb argument. The point here is that "App Store" explains what the service is or does. "Windows" does not explain what the OS is or does, and nor does "Office." This isn't about a word that's commonly used, but about a word that explains what the actual product is.
No way is Apple winning this. Dream on fanboys.
No way is Apple winning this. Dream on fanboys.
Maybe I wasn't clear. They want to differentiate the store names between platforms while linking them together with the term "App Store." The fact that you think the term "Apple App Store" would work better is irrelevant.
Nobody is denying what it IS called NOW.
BEFORE Apple used the term "App Store" nothing else was referred to as an app store.
Handango is called an app store now because that term became the term to use when Apple coined it.