I always knew Apple was doing this out of their kind heart. The balanced relation between Apple and developers is so beautiful and touching that it brings a tear to my eye.
So apparently 9to5Mac.com got the response from Apple !
Had to go to their site to get my answer !
There isn't one. There are many people out to harm Apple and they use very deceitful tactics and reporting to make it happen.Can someone explain what the problem is here? ?
This does seem like an overt mischaracterization. Apple is supporting developers and content makers and themselves by running ads that many cannot afford to run themselves. Verizon runs ads for the new iPhone, Best Buy runs ads for the latest Sony TV on Reddit.
Seriously, what am I missing. This seems like a hit piece drumming up clicks and drama.
No, a company is to serve the state in the utopia, capitalism is bad remember?Isn't this the whole point of the existence of a company?
I'm not sure about anyone else, but I would be thrilled if Apple wanted to spend their advertising dollars to help grow my app.
It's them properly using the money they're making on their 30%, and a great example of good distribution.
Can someone explain what the problem is here? ?
There is no guarantee that the customer is going to buy direct until they do. Maybe Apple is securing revenue by showing them they could manage the payment on their device. As long as the price is the same having Apple between my credit card and the seller is a benefit for the customer.
- If an app already has lots of brand awareness, it’s questionable whether Apple is actually bringing in new customers vs. “sniping” people who are already searching for the app but click the ad at the top rather than the organic result.
This is the same point as above, so I will repeat that signing up via the app has added value. There are subscriptions that I have let laps because the developer charges too much but when they contact me directly about saving money by paying directly I decline because I want the same product for less.
- In this case, if the customer signs up within the app, Apple will get 15% for the entire duration of the subscription vs. zero if the customer signed up through the Web site. So, to the extent that the customer would have signed up anyway, this is a loss for the developer.
This conflicts with the point you were trying to make before. Even if the price increases all traffic is resulting in increased sales. So their need to buy ad space decreases and the advertising expense is partially moved to payment to Apple. Who, again, closed the deal.
- Apple’s bidding on ads increases the cost of ads that the developer is buying.
This doesn't make sense to me. Who is you, them, and the service?
- You could look at this as Apple using its arguably too-high fees against the developer that is paying them. They would rather pay lower fees than pay more for this “service.”
And? It's not fair. Why does that matter?
- There’s some asymmetry here because most developers aren’t allowed to purchase Google ads that use Apple trademarks like “Mac” for better targeting, but yet Apple is placing ads using the names of the developers’ products, even though they don’t want it to.
They could pull their app from the app store.
- Apple doesn’t seem to have commented on the allegation that there’s no way to opt out.
Cause apple forces them to with a contract.Verizon runs ads for the new iPhone
But...... thats not how this works.
People are already searching google for a brand they already know they want to use, to subscribe directly from the vendor.
Apple is jumping in and saying here is a link, come subscribe.
They aren't building brand awareness. They are siphoning off 30% that the vendor was otherwise going to make on their own. And they are causing the actual brands to have to pay more in their own advertising to compete against what Apple is bidding to advertise on their brand name.
This isn't like Walmart advertising a can of green beans when you can't buy from Green Giant direct.
Of course, everyone wants a piece of Apple's mammoth wallet.So this was all BS concocted by those wanting to harm Apple..
You mean, Apple wants your wallet.Of course, everyone wants a piece of Apple's mammoth wallet.
because the devs will get business they never would have gotten?Hmmmm… so I wonder why any company would contract Apple to run a segment of their ad campaign(s) knowing they'll be giving away 30% of that. […]
Sounds like this is in the contract.So does Forbes now correct its article? Hard to be "secretive" when it has been known and communicated for 5 years. Probably just a whiney developer that wanted to make a big deal of something that is not a big deal. and why contact google? If you don't want your app advertised, shouldn't you contact the originator. There is so much hear that makes no sense
I would never allow anyone exploit me by advertising for free any of my apps!!!
- There’s some asymmetry here because most developers aren’t allowed to purchase Google ads that use Apple trademarks like “Mac” for better targeting, but yet Apple is placing ads using the names of the developers’ products, even though they don’t want it to
You have no clue how marketing works. This is an arbitrage opportunity that's lost for the developer.Damn it Apple. How dare you spend your own money to promote your developer’s apps without their permission? Obviously exploitative.
They wouldn't have been duped if they had any journalistic standards and verified their sources prior to going to print.Didn’t take long for Apple to respond. Looks like Forbes got duped by bad info.
Do you know for a fact that this is occurring? Otherwise it's pure speculation like the "article".”On the contrary, the company says that it regularly engages in conversation with developers about the ads it places and many developers express their appreciation for this support.”
And if some developers don’t express support or consent and, in fact, ask Apple to stop, then it isn’t an overt mischaracterization in those cases.