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Do you need consent to truthfully advertise someone's product? That doesn't seem like a damage type situation.
 
because the devs will get business they never would have gotten?
I disagree with that. Each developer, and many aren't small ones from the looks of it, choose to run their own advertising campaigns as they see fit. It's not like Apple is running anything that's separate to that. Yes it's more coverage I guess but the developer can make the exact same choice.

If there is developer consent, or more, then it's all fine.

From what I'm seeing though is that it's no different to a company that is a bulk Verizon customer using a Verizon ad directly where it directs to that company rather than Verizon. Yeah, Verizon gets another customer but its one step removed and at 30% less. The question really is whether that ad would have been there anyway, which for me comes down to developer consent.

It all raises an eyebrow to me given I'm sure if Verizon were to directly run an Apple ad directly that links to Verizon, rather than Apple, there would be a cease and desist sent out in less than 2 seconds.
 
I disagree with that. Each developer, and many aren't small ones from the looks of it, choose to run their own advertising campaigns as they see fit. It's not like Apple is running anything that's separate to that. Yes it's more coverage I guess but the developer can make the exact same choice.

If there is developer consent, or more, then it's all fine.

From what I'm seeing though is that it's no different to a company that is a bulk Verizon customer using a Verizon ad directly where it directs to that company rather than Verizon. Yeah, Verizon gets another customer but its one step removed and at 30% less. The question really is whether that ad would have been there anyway, which for me comes down to developer consent.

It all raises an eyebrow to me given I'm sure if Verizon were to directly run an Apple ad directly that links to Verizon, rather than Apple, there would be a cease and desist sent out in less than 2 seconds.
We will never prove or disprove the assertion devs get new business. However, apple is within its rights to do this advertising. Everything they do has a legal stamp of approval, imo, I can almost guarantee it.
 
Can always tell the difference between those who know the subject material and those who don’t.

The complaint isn’t against ALL ads, just those specifically designed to draw traffic away from developers sites. This is done by identifying the ads the developers already have in place and then outspending them - PROVIDED there is a subscription involved.

it’s not done out of the kindness of Apple’s heart. Apple’s advertising arm has very specific parameters to know how much to spend, to make that 30% pay off. Very easy to dial in the parameters as well.

Why should we criticise Apple for trying to make more money by selling stuff in their store?
It's one reason they have a store.

Apple in fact creates competition and choice which so many here loves.
 
It all raises an eyebrow to me given I'm sure if Verizon were to directly run an Apple ad directly that links to Verizon, rather than Apple, there would be a cease and desist sent out in less than 2 seconds.
Carriers run ads for Apple and non-Apple devices all the time and then direct customers to their stores, website, or apps. You have every right to advertise that you sell a product.
 
Why should we criticise Apple for trying to make more money by selling stuff in their store?
It's one reason they have a store.

Apple in fact creates competition and choice which so many here loves.
They are specifically targeting already purchased developer ads, to gain higher placement on search results, to steer people towards their 30% cut, payment option. Apple is making “more money” at the direct expense of developers who have already paid for SEO search terms for their own apps.

Apple is NOT attracting people to apps, which are missing SEO search terms.
 
They are specifically targeting already purchased developer ads, to gain higher placement on search results, to steer people towards their 30% cut, payment option. Apple is making “more money” at the direct expense of developers who have already paid for SEO search terms for their own apps.

Apple is NOT attracting people to apps, which are missing SEO search terms.
How do you know this isn’t money that may never have reached the developer to begin with? 30% of $0 is still zero.
 
How do you know this isn’t money that may never have reached the developer to begin with? 30% of $0 is still zero.
Well, since Apple bought the ads to directly compete with the developer, an ad would have been there, regardless.

The people blowing sunshine up Apple rear, are acting like these Apple ads are showing where no ad would have appeared. These people are showing that they have no understanding of the situation.

“I’d be happy if Apple bought ads for me” = ? level of understanding
 
Well, since Apple bought the ads to directly compete with the developer, an ad would have been there, regardless.

The people blowing sunshine up Apple rear, are acting like these Apple ads are showing where no ad would have appeared. These people are showing that they have no understanding of the situation.

“I’d be happy if Apple bought ads for me” = ? level of understanding
But the point still stands, these ads may bring in business a developer may never have had. You're looking at it as if the developer had business and now Apple is vying for the same customer to use IAP. It seems there is some middle ground here.
 
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