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Wasn’t part of the allegation that Apple’s ads compete with the devs’ ads and try to divert traffic away from their own offerings to getting people to buy directly from the App Store?
 
They could pull their app from the app store.
No they can't, Apple owns 60% of the customers in this town. Android owns the other 40%. By pulling the app from the store, they immediately lose 60% of their potential customers. There is no competition for these customers. Apple has a monopoly.
 
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Two words. Free advertising. Ads cost companies money. If apple wants to put out ads and allow the developers to use their tools and store… I don’t understand how anyone could complain about that.

Otherwise the developers have to still follow the same pricing structure AND pay for the ads. This “-gate” is the most ridiculous of the “-gates”.
 
Two words. Free advertising. Ads cost companies money. If apple wants to put out ads and allow the developers to use their tools and store… I don’t understand how anyone could complain about that.

Otherwise the developers have to still follow the same pricing structure AND pay for the ads. This “-gate” is the most ridiculous of the “-gates”.
It's not advertising for the company. The problem is with brand keyword bidding which. you clearly didn't do enough research to comment about this. The Forbes article was claiming that Apple made it more expensive for people to run brand keyword ads because Apple was overbidding. It would be a completely different article if Apple bid on behalf of developers for generic keywords rather than brand-based keywords or it was opt-in, Apple suggests this is opt-in but I'd rather have it be said from those 3rd party developers because opt-in in apple cases means they signed the contract allowing apple to bid brand keywords for AppStore links.
 
No they can't, Apple owns 60% of the customers in this town. Android owns the other 40%. By pulling the app from the store, they immediately lose 60% of their potential customers. There is no competition for these customers. Apple has a monopoly.
Are you saying that Apple is forcing them to be software developers? That’s messed up. At the very least quitting is an option but if Apple won’t let them leave than it’s an issue. Otherwise, they could make shoes instead.
 
LOL when Apple starts defending, it must be true!

Their long term plan is to "Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish".
Apple want to takeover Google's and Facebook's. & Co. Ad Business by spreading privacy crap, and by wearing a fake white privacy vest, just to do the same or worse later.
Apple is cleverly and slowly extending its tentacles into the third-party Ad Business, and most people don't even notice.

E.g. Private Relay is mainly just another instrument to partly control the web later by black and white listing domains, and anti-competitively kill businesses and competition with a snap.

I can’t wait for the day when private relay extends to all apps as well, not just safari browser traffic.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if it was from Apple's attorneys taking issue with some of the very damaging comments here about Apple being shady, when in fact that was not the case.

What's being discussed into the more-pressing issue, OR, I believe, the reason behind Apple's quick response.

Less than a week ago, after losing their first appeal, Apple stated it would appeal to the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

And naturally, this is related to the Epic vs. Apple Judge's decision that Apple must let App Store consumers purchase IAPs via third-party websites, & do so by Dec 9th !

In other words, Apple doesn't want any (more) Bad Press right now !

The 9th Circuit would surely catch wind of it if it happens.
 
What's being discussed into the more-pressing issue, OR, I believe, the reason behind Apple's quick response.

Less than a week ago, after losing their first appeal, Apple stated it would appeal to the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

And naturally, this is related to the Epic vs. Apple Judge's decision that Apple must let App Store consumers purchase IAPs via third-party websites, & do so by Dec 9th !

In other words, Apple doesn't want any (more) Bad Press right now !

The 9th Circuit would surely catch wind of it if it happens.

No, nice try, it's not about Epic - that's a "look over there" distraction...

Apple doesn't want its reputation damaged by people making false statements here saying Apple is acting shady regarding third-party ads. I don't blame them.
 
Can always tell the difference between those who know the subject material and those who don’t.

The complaint isn’t against ALL ads, just those specifically designed to draw traffic away from developers sites. This is done by identifying the ads the developers already have in place and then outspending them - PROVIDED there is a subscription involved.

it’s not done out of the kindness of Apple’s heart. Apple’s advertising arm has very specific parameters to know how much to spend, to make that 30% pay off. Very easy to dial in the parameters as well.
 
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I can't imagine the horror of having the worlds largest company spend money to promote my company. What's next, the tragedy of having them buy me a new house? (Just letting Apple know, I could use a new Lotus or three.)
Lotus? I see that you're a man with a true passion and taste for cars. ?
 
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It's not advertising for the company. The problem is with brand keyword bidding which. you clearly didn't do enough research to comment about this. The Forbes article was claiming that Apple made it more expensive for people to run brand keyword ads because Apple was overbidding. It would be a completely different article if Apple bid on behalf of developers for generic keywords rather than brand-based keywords or it was opt-in, Apple suggests this is opt-in but I'd rather have it be said from those 3rd party developers because opt-in in apple cases means they signed the contract allowing apple to bid brand keywords for AppStore links.
Now, correct me if I’m wrong again, but When more people are after the same resource, the price always goes up. So, sure the price is higher since apple has big money bags and wants to do adds using these brand keywords, but that increase in price affects competitors too. Wouldn’t it? They aren’t JUST competing with the brands they are doing ads for, are they? So, while apple may have been routing folks to their payment platform, it is STILL an ad where people are seeing your product or service and costs for doing ads for competing services are higher as well…

I’ll admit, I am not in this space, and you are free to educate me, but this doesn’t sound like something entirely bad for the companies. Especially if it’s opt in as you say.
 
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Grubhub was caught doing the exact same thing and it was widely considered to be unethical

It's unethical when everyone else does it. It is not possible for Apple to be unethical. There's just no way. There has to be an explanation. No explanation will be considered for anyone else.
 
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A clever way for Apple to gain more profit from and support all those free apps that data mine you.
 
Hmmmm… so I wonder why any company would contract Apple to run a segment of their ad campaign(s) knowing they'll be giving away 30% of that. As always the truth is certainly between Apple's "they asked us to" and the other end of "we didn't ask Apple to do anything".

All I know is when ad campaigns the other way around run the logos of both companies are taking part in full view. Why wouldn't Apple want their association to be known with their "partners" ads?

I agree with this, it's hardly any recognition to claim an ad as being an app from your App Store, that's all the majority of ads are is for games and apps from the App Store, you have no idea it's Apple placing the advert and collecting revenue from it, it's a clever almost free way to gain more revenue, but a little dishonest too.
 
I'm not sure about anyone else, but I would be thrilled if Apple wanted to spend their advertising dollars to help grow my app.

It's them properly using the money they're making on their 30%, and a great example of good distribution.
Sadly, it must only be the big players they bother to spend the money on.
 
Apple has a monopoly on iOS devices, just like how McDonald’s has a monopoly on Big Macs. It’s never going to stick in court.
I don’t know or not if the app store will be changed vs regulation or lawsuits. It may or may not. For now, the first test the epic case, apple came out unscathed.
 
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