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''Cook is bad because of mistakes and delays''

''Jobs also made mistakes and things got delayed''

''Er....well.....it was a different company then.''

That's also not an argument. It's an excuse so you can handwave this strange cult of personality around Jobs.

Have a great day.
Cook and modern Apple encounter delays from the standpoint of an unknown unknown. It's a surprise! They aren't realistic at the executive and project management levels so it catches them out- the car and AI are good examples. Jobs knew when delays were coming down the pipe because he was a cross-silo participant and intimately involved. As such he could craft the story and not let the press draft it for him. Whether people believed it is another discussion but he had intimate knowledge of all the areas at all or mostly all of the time.

Jobs was a tough guy with expectations too, but begrudgingly wanted something to be delayed rather than to suck. Before he left, Lisa III was probably his highest profile failure then. But he knew what came next and the risk was worth the delay. Maybe, the Pixar computer comes next? His constant drive to tirelessly iterate is lost on modern Apple and that's the secret sauce. Making the mistakes and failing before something hits the public.

But let's Look at public misses. Look to OS X 10.0. I installed it on a Power Mac G4 400. It sucked. Possibly the most potentially damaging and very public mistake. And an internal call to arms. This was to be the cornerstone for the next decade of their computers so the alarms sounded internally. They relentlessly drove to improve it. Year over year. 10.1 was miles ahead, moreso 10.2. They kept driving forward. That attitude and drive is missing with the Siri/AI team and modern Apple in general. Granted we are comparing an accountant/supply chain genius to a Renaissance man so there's the schism. But it's easy to see the lack of vision has led to unforced errors. Would Jobs have announced Siri and AI during WWDC only to announce a delay? Maybe but probably not. In his speeches in the early 80s he talked about the kinds of technology that were at their infancy but he saw those things as if they were mature. I think it could be said with confidence he would have pulled sharply towards AI a few years back, he might have delayed products and moved teams around to bring human capital to bear. It's a fascinating discussion if you have the frames of reference to measure it out. He would absolutely have delayed anything and everything in service of bringing Apple Intelligence into a category-leading position, everything else be damned.
 
As someone with a lab of over a dozen them, I agree. But it didn't cost Apple 10BN and a decade. It should have been the end of Cook. But the AVP is a perfect encapsulation of everything wrong with modern Apple: gorgeous hardware let down by software and a contentious developer story that's largely the end result of Apple hubris.
Amen
 
Cook and modern Apple encounter delays from the standpoint of an unknown unknown. It's a surprise! They aren't realistic at the executive and project management levels so it catches them out- the car and AI are good examples. Jobs knew when delays were coming down the pipe because he was a cross-silo participant and intimately involved. As such he could craft the story and not let the press draft it for him. Whether people believed it is another discussion but he had intimate knowledge of all the areas at all or mostly all of the time.

Jobs was a tough guy with expectations too, but begrudgingly wanted something to be delayed rather than to suck. Before he left, Lisa III was probably his highest profile failure then. But he knew what came next and the risk was worth the delay. Maybe, the Pixar computer comes next? His constant drive to tirelessly iterate is lost on modern Apple and that's the secret sauce. Making the mistakes and failing before something hits the public.

But let's Look at public misses. Look to OS X 10.0. I installed it on a Power Mac G4 400. It sucked. Possibly the most potentially damaging and very public mistake. And an internal call to arms. This was to be the cornerstone for the next decade of their computers so the alarms sounded internally. They relentlessly drove to improve it. Year over year. 10.1 was miles ahead, moreso 10.2. They kept driving forward. That attitude and drive is missing with the Siri/AI team and modern Apple in general. Granted we are comparing an accountant/supply chain genius to a Renaissance man so there's the schism. But it's easy to see the lack of vision has led to unforced errors. Would Jobs have announced Siri and AI during WWDC only to announce a delay? Maybe but probably not. In his speeches in the early 80s he talked about the kinds of technology that were at their infancy but he saw those things as if they were mature. I think it could be said with confidence he would have pulled sharply towards AI a few years back, he might have delayed products and moved teams around to bring human capital to bear. It's a fascinating discussion if you have the frames of reference to measure it out.
Apple needs another Renaissance leader as CEO.
 
Truly, this doesn't get talked about enough. Apple pissed away billions of dollars on a doomed project for years, not to mention the non-monetary costs of doing so. Makes you wonder where they would be if all those people and resources working on Project Titan were focused on Mac/iPhone software and AI the whole time instead.
I absolutely agree. Apple was trying to make a car, while Google correctly focused on developing Android Automotive, which runs the infotainment of a lot of modern vehicles, with more to come.

Apple is left holding their own d**k, with nobody even integrating the Carplay 2.0 2 years after the announcement.
 
I absolutely agree. Apple was trying to make a car, while Google correctly focused on developing Android Automotive, which runs the infotainment of a lot of modern vehicles, with more to come.

Apple is left holding their own d**k, with nobody even integrating the Carplay 2.0 2 years after the announcement.
Yep. Maybe they should make everyone watch this, especially at the VIP and above levels.
 
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Me:“Siri, how many steps have I taken today?”

Siri: “ you will have to unlock your phone first.
Frustrating but understandable - step count is classified as health data, which seems reasonable.

Personally, I have the Pedometer++ app on my iPhone and Watch, specifically so that I can get the step count complication on my normal Watch screen. I'd be happier if Apple would add a step count complication to the Fitness app - steps, distance walked, and stairs climbed are all already available in the Fitness app.
 
I absolutely agree. Apple was trying to make a car, while Google correctly focused on developing Android Automotive, which runs the infotainment of a lot of modern vehicles, with more to come.

Apple is left holding their own d**k, with nobody even integrating the Carplay 2.0 2 years after the announcement.

Yup. It's hard to understand how a project like Titan ever even got approved for R&D, let alone continue on for so long. For as much crap as Google gets for cancelling products and features, at least they know how to fail quickly and move on.
 
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Yup. It's hard to understand how a project like Titan ever even got approved for R&D, let alone continue on for so long. For as much crap as Google gets for cancelling products and features, at least they know how to fail quickly and move on.
I'm convinced it was a terribly misguided legacy-building exercise
 
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No one will. Apple is now low of good engineers. Lots of them have already left the company.

I know they decided to hire based upon immutable characteristics rather than merit - that was obviously a huge mistake. Yet they recently decided to double down on that decision. They need new leadership ASAP to right the ship. But my fear is the board will see the ever increasing revenue and not do anything until it's too late - major damage being done to the brand all the while. Look at what's happening with Disney.
 
Having had home pods through my house since launch of the original, I’d just be happy if we could get back to where Siri was 4 or 5 years ago.

It’s consistently gotten worse. The one thing the HomePods did remarkably and consistently was pick up “hey siri” even if it was whispered from across the room. They numbed the trigger when forcing the option of just using “Siri”. Even with that turned off (just to use get Siri) about 1 in 3 or 2 in 2 times my prompt is missed. And the misunderstandings seem to have gotten worse, reliability has gotten worse, while the thing has gotten more verbose. Setting scenes now 100% of the time responds verbosely that some of the accessories didn’t respond, even when they all did. It’s a hot mess.
 
Incorrect. Alexa+ will be using a combination of Amazon’s own Nova model(s) and Anthropic model(s).

They’ve also described the system as model agnostic, that suggests to me that they are open to using any models in future as they deem appropriate.

It might be that once they’ve got more advanced models of their own they might only use their own models.
Thanks for correcting me. I read an article that I thought was a trusted source, but after reading it again, it was obviously trying to spread misinformation. And it worked. Sorry.
 
I would pay good money for an insider to leak what's been going on at Apple the last few years.
Apple has to be completely haywire internally with the level of competition and political maneuvering they have to deal with.
 
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How about we stop this 'Intelligence' crap that is pretty worthless and get back to making the system stable again. IOS is totally unstable, Safari on a desktop/Laptop garbage, OS X in general is going back to the days of MAC OS 9, unstable and annoying. I don't want to start using windows but his is getting ridiculous already.
 
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How about we stop this 'Intelligence' crap that is pretty worthless and get back to making the system stable again. IOS is totally unstable, Safari on a desktop/Laptop garbage, OS X in general is going back to the days of MAC OS 9, unstable and annoying. I don't want to start using windows but his is getting ridiculous already.
Lol, what a backwards way of thinking
 
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This has been a colossal miss by Tim and Apple, it's not last but best, it's last and last so far

Total matter of speculation here, but I think Steve's brain would have been on fire learning about the modern take on AI, the question of computers just doing one thing at a time instead of us just telling them to do something and they go off and do all the steps for it has come up many times during his career even that I can think of, it's been on his mind, and the modern method allows that. I think he would have seen a hard pivot in software and made a much harder pivot towards it.

Tim is the kind of guy to go, oh, that's not so big right now, maybe we'll do a bit of playing around in it, but he didn't go as big, as fast as needed, and now they're years behind with ACDC (their take on Nvidia H200s) not even scaling till 2026+ which makes the word of a conversational Siri not happening till 2027 now with iOS20 make sense. And imagine how bad it would be if even ACDC remains far behind Nvidia by 2027, and they have a lot less to train actual LLM Siri in iOS20 on even still....
Tim cook is a numbers guy. He really doesn’t care about what’s new. I can’t believe the biggest company in the world didn’t have a clue about openAI. Look at Musk, he didn’t have anything in the game either but he went the startup approach, no regulation, no nothing and just built the damn thing in less than 20 days, now Grok is one of the best LLM
 
To be fair, I turned off all the AI features on my iPhone anyways. Still hilarious they sold the 16 on these features and it’s been 6 months
 
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On one hand, I appreciate the move in order to avoid releasing something half-baked that won't perform as expected. Expectations are especially high with Siri as it is in dire need of a massive upgrade to stop being the weakest link we all make fun of.

On the other tho, they communicated so heavily on new devices having the proper hardware specs for Apple Intelligence and made that part of the sales pitch, that it is just regretful and pathetic they are not honouring their promise.
Exactly, and if the current lineup of products are "built for Apple Intelligence" then what the f are the ones later this year and next year?? "Built for Real Apple Intelligence"
 
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So they marketed their entire lineup based on stuff that may never come.

I smell a class action. They obsessed over marketing all this garbage and Siri will continue to suck forever
 
To be fair, I turned off all the AI features on my iPhone anyways. Still hilarious they sold the 16 on these features and it’s been 6 months
Yep. A class action is brewing I’m sure.

Either that or no one ever cared about any of it to begin with. 😆
 
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