Shut up and take my money
Shut up and take my money
This would be sick for playing a VR version of bioshock, js
There is a difference between a new category for the mass market and a new category for a niche market. Are you going to buy one at 3K or are you just saying something for the sake of saying something?A new product category from Apple?
Who cares?
You must new around here.
1st gen
$3000
Already a hard pass for me
Sorry, don’t get the joke hereI get it. $3K is way too much to ask for a Super-Enhanced Mario Kart experience. Meanwhile...
$100 per finger"pinch gesture", so there's going to be a glove assessory. $100 glove.
Ooh, another article according to which the fuglyly rendered goggles that have always been shown with these articles for years now (and which have zero chance of being close to the way the actual product will look) are "delayed".
A real-world "delay" as opposed to a fantasy one would mean that the product has been publicly announced, which it hasn't. At most, some internal milestones may have been pushed back.
The breathlessly stated release dates from the past have all been missed, and there's no reason why the WWDC one shouldn't also be more of the same, but let's take everything for 100% gospel this time along with the price because Mark Gurman and this time it'll surely all be different.
What's probably actually happening is that some mid-level sources within Apple are saying "Well I've seen it work and there's no reason why it wouldn't be ready sometime soon", and then since pages need to be filled by Gurman and others, the end result of the game of telephone is "HELLOHELLOHELLO headset to come out in April/WWDC/September/before the end of the year HELLOHELLOHELLO".
The actual situation, which even Gurman hints at with his warning that it may be delayed further, is that he knows nothing about the release time.
"Gurman cautions that the timing of the launch could change again, but Apple wants to have it available for purchase by the end of 2023 if at all possible because it is the headline product of the year."
HELLOHELLOHELLO: Apple would like to have a flying car out by the end of the year if at all possible, but it may not be possible and may come out later whenever.
How could I possibly answer that question when I don't know:There is a difference between a new category for the mass market and a new category for a niche market. Are you going to buy one at 3K or are you just saying something for the sake of saying something?
The price has been confirmed multiple times by very reputable sources. I doubt it will be much different than the quoted 3K. It’s not that hard to imagine what a VR set is going to be used for: there are multiple similar sets available from many vendors for less than a quarter of that price. It’s going to be a niche product, at least for its first generation. But sure, go ahead and get excited about it, it’s a free world. I’m entitled to my opinion as well - it’s still boring. It’s not like they’re going to showcase something unseen and revolutionary there. Maybe something evolutionary, but that’s still a meh from me.How could I possibly answer that question when I don't know:
1. What the product looks like
2. What it's intended use cases are
3. How much it costs
Rather than trying to guess and predict what the product will be and whether I am excited or disappointed by it, I'm keeping an open mind until I actual have some real facts around which to base my opinion.
I mean that's what Apple does, most of the time: they introduce a much more refined version of a product category. The iPod wasnt the first PMP, the iPhone wasnt the first smartphone, the airpods definitely werent the first wireless earbuds, the iPad wasnt the first touchscreen tablet, etc. They don't always manage it, but that is what they're good at.The price has been confirmed multiple times by very reputable sources. I doubt it will be much different than the quoted 3K. It’s not that hard to imagine what a VR set is going to be used for: there are multiple similar sets available from many vendors for less than a quarter of that price. It’s going to be a niche product, at least for its first generation. But sure, go ahead and get excited about it, it’s a free world. I’m entitled to my opinion as well - it’s still boring. It’s not like they’re going to showcase something unseen and revolutionary there. Maybe something evolutionary, but that’s still a meh from me.
I could argue there, as the iPhone was the very first truly touchscreen-based smartphone. The same goes for the iPad. Any devices before that were still using button- or stylus-based inputs.I mean that's what Apple does, most of the time: they introduce a much more refined version of a product category. The iPod wasnt the first PMP, the iPhone wasnt the first smartphone, the airpods definitely werent the first wireless earbuds, the iPad wasnt the first touchscreen tablet, etc. They don't always manage it, but that is what they're good at.
Other than hardware, the price is the one thing that can be changed until a second before it is revealed. Many "very reputable sources" thought they knew the price for the iPad or the Apple Watch Ultra before they came out, and then it turned out to be about half of their "reputable" wild guesses.The price has been confirmed multiple times by very reputable sources. I doubt it will be much different than the quoted 3K. It’s not that hard to imagine what a VR set is going to be used for: there are multiple similar sets available from many vendors for less than a quarter of that price. It’s going to be a niche product, at least for its first generation. But sure, go ahead and get excited about it, it’s a free world. I’m entitled to my opinion as well - it’s still boring. It’s not like they’re going to showcase something unseen and revolutionary there. Maybe something evolutionary, but that’s still a meh from me.
You have perfectly stated the major shortcoming of this site and the majority of its forums usersHow could I possibly answer that question when I don't know:
1. What the product looks like
2. What it's intended use cases are
3. How much it costs
Rather than trying to guess and predict what the product will be and whether I am excited or disappointed by it, I'm keeping an open mind until I actual have some real facts around which to base my opinion.
It was also multitouch which was a brand new type of capacitive touch screen technology when including the advancements in software providing the experience.I could argue there, as the iPhone was the very first truly touchscreen-based smartphone. The same goes for the iPad. Any devices before that were still using button- or stylus-based inputs.
Other than hardware, the price is the one thing that can be changed until a second before it is revealed. Many "very reputable sources" thought they knew the price for the iPad or the Apple Watch Ultra before they came out, and then it turned out to be about half of their "reputable" wild guesses.
But no, let's project absolute certainty about the price, that the features aren't any better than cheap headsets, that it's going to be an unoriginal niche product and so on.
You have perfectly stated the major shortcoming of this site and the majority of its forums users.
Sorry, we don't know about this. We've seen products that surprised people with how expensive they are/were (e.g., 2019 Mac Pro) or the opposite (iPad, Apple Watch Ultra).3. The price will be high. C’mon. This is Apple.
Possible was the key word. Not confirmed, so saying it was delayed like that’s a fact is illogicalI don’t understand this logic lol so just because it wasn’t officially announced yet, there can’t be delays / push backs?
it’s absolutely possible and very likely that it was pushed back *internally*. a delay is a delay whether they publicly said it or not.
I can give you I don’t know, but it’s a looooong shot. How is Apple Watch Ultra an example of a low price? They discontinued the Edition because no one was spending that. They’re not going to repeat the same mistake.Sorry, we don't know about this. We've seen products that surprised people with how expensive they are/were (e.g., 2019 Mac Pro) or the opposite (iPad, Apple Watch Ultra).
It'll depend on whether this will be supposed to be a pro/consumer/developer product.
Pro: Expensive.
Consumer: Not so expensive.
Developer: Could be anything, but you might get your money back (like with the DTK).
I'm seeing way too much certainty about and emotional investment into sketchy rumors in here. Maybe it's going to be part of the new iMac Pro?.
I added some visual imagery to your post so we could illustrate your point together.The b*tch level on here is pathetic. Who cares how much this costs? I have zero issue with the price. If it will help me make money, I'll buy it. You already know how Apple works - the pro stuff costs a lot because the people who buy them use them to make money, or else they have enough money that means they don't care about the price of anything. There will be numerous tiers to come that suit your budget.![]()
I don't know if it's such a great idea to put words into people's mouths and mess up the quotes.I added some visual imagery to your post so we could illustrate your point together.