Apple Delays Major iOS 19 Feature Announcement

[rp2011]

Tesla's full self-driving tech is a great example of AI in a consumer product and it's definitely ready for prime-time.

And that's a great example of a company promising something for years, selling consumers on the false premise that it would be available soon, with years and years of false promises and even stockholder lawsuits and government watchdogs looking into the false promises. Great example. Ready? As good as it's ever been I guess.

 

[yossi]

The Siri team is a joke. It should not take nearly two decades to replace this abomination

At least once a week, I ask SIRI on my watch to start a 1 minute timer and she tells me she does not have a timer app. There is no excuse for a multi trillion dollar company to be so far behind

 

[svish]

Siri is so far behind. Looks like two years from now with probably iOS 20.3, there will be a significantly improved Siri. Would like to see atleast Gemini integration for now

 

[Cloudyskies22]

so cool that 2-3 years of iOS development are being wasted on chasing the AI bubble and not fixing the long standing bugs/stablity issues.

I’m still waiting on the smartphone bubble to burst. Ohh wait there was no bubble just like there is no AI bubble.

 

[Cloudyskies22]

I remember reading an article decades ago that argued that climate change and global pollution wasn’t a real problem, because real problems are expensive, and polluting the planet is cheap.

The assumptions and logic in your comment reminded me a lot of that article.

Sorry just the facts. ASI can solve fusion and innumerable other things.

Humans can solve a lot but it takes far too long, and the key thing you need to understand which you don’t is that humans will not solve climate change in time simply because at the end of each day each human must survive and that is ingrained in their code. The vast majority of humans are living in survival mode every single day and couldn’t and shouldn’t give a single **** about the climate. Their priority is surviving, now.

This is why humans can’t solve it, because it’s too expensive. It is far more expensive to put solar on your house and you have to be in a specific place on earth and not have a lot of tree cover etc. not an area with lots of cloud cover. Etc. too expensive, not happening. Moreover you have to convince multiple huge and competing countries to all do it together which never happens.

AI however will dramatically drop the cost of all of these things including helping solving and building out fusion reactors.

 

[bmark]

Apple iOS team is freaking pathetic! Trillion dollar company with dollar store software engineers.

 

[Chungry]

Apple iOS team is freaking pathetic! Trillion dollar company with dollar store software engineers.

I think a combination of bumping up against the limitations related to the internal structure of the company/culture has made Apple less and less a place where top tier talent can do their best work. They've suffered "brain drain" for a decade or so judging by when a lot of their talent started departing. I think what we see now are trailing indicators of that. But we're talking about, as a poster around here so eloquently put it, the equivalent to modern day Sears in Apple. Flush with cash and hubris. They may not crash and burn but there are worse fates such as fading into irrelevance by not skating to there the puck is going to be. I don't think Apple works well when they aren't the underdog. Success is slowly killing the company.

 

[SpotOnT]

That’s right. And nobody has ever been charged for being asleep at the wheel behind a TELSA in FSD mode. That has never happened at all. They always had their hands on the wheel.

To be fair, those people were basically using cruise control on the interstate. That is a far, far cry from what we mean when we say full self-driving.

I mean it is not like you can leave your office in midtown Manhattan, immediately fall asleep when you get in your car, and wake up in your driveway in the Hamptons.

 

[SpotOnT]

Sorry just the facts. ASI can solve fusion and innumerable other things.

Humans can solve a lot but it takes far too long, and the key thing you need to understand which you don’t is that humans will not solve climate change in time simply because at the end of each day each human must survive and that is ingrained in their code. The vast majority of humans are living in survival mode every single day and couldn’t and shouldn’t give a single **** about the climate. Their priority is surviving, now.

This is why humans can’t solve it, because it’s too expensive. It is far more expensive to put solar on your house and you have to be in a specific place on earth and not have a lot of tree cover etc. not an area with lots of cloud cover. Etc. too expensive, not happening. Moreover you have to convince multiple huge and competing countries to all do it together which never happens.

AI however will dramatically drop the cost of all of these things including helping solving and building out fusion reactors.

AI is going to build out fusion reactors for us and end global warming in 15 years?

Ok. I will check back in 15 years.

 

[garranhado]

Apple, Apple, Apple you need to focus on what you do better. By now you can integrate other AI models into the system without new hardware nonsense. Keep researching and at the right time launch your own AI model.

 

[Serrafemme]

At least it looks like Apple won't be advertising a feature that doesn't actually release at all for months after they sell new iPhones that "support" said feature...

 

[Howard2k]

To be fair, those people were basically using cruise control on the interstate. That is a far, far cry from what we mean when we say full self-driving.

I mean it is not like you can leave your office in midtown Manhattan, immediately fall asleep when you get in your car, and wake up in your driveway in the Hamptons.

You must be joking?

You need to look at some videos on Youtube or X. It's far more advanced than a basic cruise control.

 

[brgjoe]

This is why I decided to skip the iPhone 16. Felt that by the time all these advanced AI features would be ready for prime time, we're already looking at iOS 19 and the iPhone 17 by that point.

 

[wbeasley]

18.5 or 19.5?

 

[cutlub]

Based on last quarter’s disastrous earnings report and being the only company in the Magnificent 7 underperforming, how will Apple ever recover from this AI crisis Gurman is reporting?

 

[Cunir]

I wonder what that means for this new home hub thing they're bringing out. You'd think that would require a Siri that's better than the one we currently have for HomePod, or people might get frustrated with it

 

[RedWeasel]

Apple is a hardware company. AI is software. Apple would never survive only on their software.

Apple is a vertically integrated company. That is their primary strength. Or it was, rather.

Yes, they make the majority of their revenue through hardware (and services). But as their hardware is not an open platform and you basically have to use their software, the software needs to be on the same level as the hardware.

 

[Will Co]

Any voice assistant that isn’t LLM AI based is near-worthless. Hence why Alexa, Siri, Google etc have done the bare minimum task-based assistance since their inception. When you have to actively think about what you can say or get a response to then you just do the bare minimum.

A voice assistant will be good when all interactions are indistinguishable from sitting and talking to another human being. When it can understand any context or like a human, when it’s not sure what you mean exactly, and asks for clarification, then and only then will it be great.

Yes, that's the utopia. But I think a lot of people have issues with privacy, and also the ethical issues around training, copyright theft etc. But privacy is the biggy. I might be wrong, but I think wide scale adoption isn't going to happen until privacy is more assured.

 

[wanha]

Apple is a hardware company. AI is software. Apple would never survive only on their software.

"Your honor, I offer the above comment as exhibit 2,831,489 into evidence regarding the making of an argument so black and white it loses all semblance with reality. The authenticity of the exhibit has been stipulated."

 

[thatguywill]

Better later and better than the other companies

There is such a thing as too late

 

[rdinterman]

Apparently the new Alexa can walk you through how to bake a cake, Siri can barely turn off my bedroom light. Guess I’ll wait until iOS 20.5.

 

[0049190]

Makes me wonder how and why they are so far behind the competition.

 

[chfilm]

Nooooo! I hate Siri in it's current form, especially on homepod. They REALLY need to get their act together now!

 

[Rafagon]

What isn't behind schedule as far as iOS is concerned?

 

[I7guy]

Makes me wonder how and why they are so far behind the competition.

How are they so far behind the competition?What is the competition doing that’s so earth shattering it would make one sell their iPhone for something else? Understanding this is subjective topic.