Optimistic but we're not talking a few months later. This is looking to be years later.Better later and better than the other companies![]()
Totally agree with you here. I love their products. Jump on board everything new which comes out and for the most part I'm always happy I did and kept to their ecosystem. But lately with AI it's starting to just make me wonder what their doing and how they missed the boat so badly on this one.I defend Apple, I don’t think they’re particularly behind yet. But a year from now.
Traditionally you get two out of three of better, faster, cheaper. Apple has zero for three.I disagree. Apple is a hardware AND software company.
Their devices are only great, because the hardware and software work hand in hand.
They just slept on AI and are now scrambling to put something out in that area...
I agree. It’s not great that Apple are struggling with Siri but they only have themselves to blame. It seems they just ignored the problem for years and now they are trying to catch up with something that’s so far ahead of them.The real issue is, people have been begging Apple to do something about Siri for literally a decade. And they, worse than putting their heads in the sand and ignoring it, boldly kept telling us Siri is great.
And even still they can't deliver a simply reliable Siri that even resembles what they have been telling us it is since 2011.
It's Apple themselves that set the standard they are now being criticized by.
Nobody even asked Apple to compete with ChatGPT. They just wanted a Siri that's not awful. And it seems one way or another Apple just can't get that out the door.
All I want from Siri is to be able to use the information I've been giving Apple this entire time to do things on my own device. What they said would be coming to Siri sometime in iOS 18 sounds fine to me. But they can't even seem to manage that.
Again, I realize this is not easy. But it's Apple's own arrogance with Siri that is frustrating people.
Any voice assistant that isn’t LLM AI based is near-worthless. Hence why Alexa, Siri, Google etc have done the bare minimum task-based assistance since their inception. When you have to actively think about what you can say or get a response to then you just do the bare minimum.I agree. It’s not great that Apple are struggling with Siri but they only have themselves to blame. It seems they just ignored the problem for years and now they are trying to catch up with something that’s so far ahead of them.
But I think most users just want a functional Siri and one that’s not necessarily based on AI.
One can excuse Apple with this overused line only for so long. Life doesn't wait for Apple. If I want/need a feature today, and other companies have it, while I'd have to wait 1, 2, 3+ years for Apple to deliver those features, that's 1, 2, 3+ years ofBetter later and better than the other companies![]()
I don't think I've seen a more apt analogy. Apple really is just like Sears.Apple is becoming the Sears of the 21st century quicker than I thought.
Too large and bloated to be agile enough to adapt to changing market conditions. Full of cash and hubris. Heck, they even launched their own credit card (like Sears did with discover).
It’s only a matter of time before Apple’s decline starts. It may be 5 years, it may be 10, but baring any serious changes in management things don’t get better before they get worse. And it will get worse.
It took 6 months of prep to move off iOS as my daily (I still have a 16 Pro Max as a backup) driver and it's been a breath of fresh air. Samsung and Google AI tools are genuinely useful. So I'm not sure what is being said here.To what ? Android ? LOL…then you’re moving to Samsung’s ecosystem because they are the only one that’s viable as a consumer company vis a vis Android. To Microsoft…LOL! They’ve already given up on phones, tablets, remember the Zune music player….right…nobody does. They’re killing off more Surface products. Good luck going there. The Humane AI pin is now dead. So….again….what is this mythical ecosystem you’re extolling people to go to in two years if not Apple ?
And we’ll all live off rainbows and unicorn poop fumes! All hail the mighty computer!Every single AI company is actually wildly undervalued. Compared to Apple, OpenAI is worth easily 500 times maybe 1,000 times what Apple is worth. That’s just in the next decade. In 15 years OpenAI will be worth 1 million times what Apple could ever hope to be.
AGI and ASI has essentially infinite value to humanity. It’s essentially the tree of life or the holy grail. Whatever mythical thing you want to attach it to, it’s that in value. It will replace all human jobs, it will cure all diseases, it will solve problems and make scientific discoveries and theories we couldn’t comprehend.
For example, Einstein made multiple theories that science could not empirical prove for about 100 years after he made them. Now imagine the theories AI will make that won’t be able to immediately be proven experimentally, but nevertheless, be true? It will be unimaginable. We will also trust they’re true because it will become clear that it’s highly accurate at theory accuracy.
It’s like if you could copy human intelligence millions and billions of times and have that shoved into a number of large data centers working 24/7 on certain tasks. The advancement will be unreal. The only things getting in the way will be physical experimentation and human society. We will slow it, but even still, it will be unbelievable advancement.
I get that it’s still very hard for a lot of people to accept or believe, but I’d say by this time next year people will finally start understanding what’s going to happen. Because this year a lot of AI agents will be starting to come online which will really get people to understand that this **** is real.
I ask this too- but I think focusing on purely-financial grounds, as long as he keeps making Apple money, he will be successfully shielded from any accounting for those shortcomings. I could see this as good or bad depending on the goal in mindAt any other company, the CEO would be facing consequences. Apple keeps failing at AI, investing billions, hiring high-profile people, then failing again.
How many failures before Tim Cook is finally dropped like an iPhone SE? How many Apple cars, Apple Vision Pros, and Apple intelligences before investors wake up?
Every one of their competitors are ahead of Apple in this space. Even Amazon casually waltzed in and comprehensively whooped Apple in this space.
No it actually will be that powerful is the funny thing.And we’ll all live off rainbows and unicorn poop fumes! All hail the mighty computer! Bit deluded ha
It doesn’t really help your case when you go “Well buddy” and speak so confidently as if it were all factNo it actually will be that powerful is the funny thing.
Remember this:
Electricity changed civilization in almost every way imaginable. Now, you don’t think about that because firstly you don’t even realize to think about that, but I just told you, so think about it right now.
You believe it to be so that no technology can make change that is unimaginably great. Well buddy, electricity already did it.
AI will be transformative on the level of electricity. Nothing else really compares.
AI is a parlor trick at this point. It’s not the core attraction of the Apple ecosystem. And don’t forget SJ had failures as well, but TC had a load of successes.At any other company, the CEO would be facing consequences. Apple keeps failing at AI, investing billions, hiring high-profile people, then failing again.
How many failures before Tim Cook is finally dropped like an iPhone SE? How many Apple cars, Apple Vision Pros, and Apple intelligences before investors wake up?
Every one of their competitors are ahead of Apple in this space. Even Amazon casually waltzed in and comprehensively whooped Apple in this space.
AI will repeal the laws of physics. Sure it will. AI can build nothing. It has no hands, it moves no materials. All it does is regurgitate that which already in the database. There is utility in searching very large databases, but creating energy is not something it can do.Also the energy costs of AI are of ZERO consequence. We need to use ALL the energy necessary for AI because AI will be the only thing that can stop climate change. Humans cannot do it alone in time. AGI and ASI will build out fusion plants astronomically faster.
Then you have not been paying attention.I defend Apple, I don’t think they’re particularly behind yet. But a year from now.
Tesla's full self-driving tech is a great example of AI in a consumer product and it's definitely ready for prime-time.AI is not ready for Primetime from any company
The fact that you used no paragraph breaks in that is funny as hell.
AI will soon transform the world beyond your wildest little dreams, of which you have none of course because you have zero vision for its capabilities to do so.
Siri is delayed because Apple is garbage and has no capabilities with AI. They are being passed horrifically and if OpenAI makes hardware they’re done.
Also the energy costs of AI are of ZERO consequence. We need to use ALL the energy necessary for AI because AI will be the only thing that can stop climate change. Humans cannot do it alone in time. AGI and ASI will build out fusion plants astronomically faster. They’ll solve innumerable climate issues clear across the board.
These are things that will be happening. Oh, by the way, AI will cure all human diseases within 15 years. Enjoy. And by the way, the very reason you know AI is the real deal is specifically because the cheaters in finance and on Wall Street are pouring literally hundreds of billions into it. Including the US government. Guess what buddy—these people do their due diligence.
Tesla's full self-driving tech is a great example of AI in a consumer product and it's definitely ready for prime-time.
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Tesla doesn’t have full self-driving….
They have a feature called “Full Self-Driving”, which requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times…so you know it’s not full self-driving…