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The parts that I have bolded are exactly what a printer driver does. No need to reinvent some whole new printing mechanism in iTunes, just use the drivers already present on the computer. To be clear, in your comment you describe the exact operation of a driver, but seem to want to simply call it "something iTunes does." In reality, your suggestion is that printer drivers should be included with iTunes, and that iTunes needs to be running for AirPrint to work. A reasonable solution, but I think Apple had planned on putting this functionality into the OS so it could run without iTunes open.

In any case, this would all fall under option (1) that he was claiming was a horrible solution because it required a computer to be on. I think it was merely a stopgap solution until they could get AirPrint included in more printers, and it turned out to be more difficult than they intended.


What I actually meant was the data would be sent in a format that is not printer ready, basically raw data that itunes would then be able to then send to the printer.
1 - raw data
2 - raw data goes to iTunes
3 - iTunes will then reconstruct this data as either images and text on A4, and then the reconstructed document is sent to the printer.

the first 2 steps are ignorant of the printer used, the 3rd step is basically itunes processing the document to the printer, so iTunes already has the driver info via the OS not iTunes itself.

Its literally bypassing the whole print process, but more a way of transmitting the doc to iTunes, and then iTunes printing the document using the OS driver.
 
I haven't read through all the posts, just want to report that AirPrint is working fine for me.

I am running the latest 10.6.5 build 10H574 (the one released Monday) and iPad 4.2 GM. I am able to print to my HP OfficeJet Pro K550 shared from my Mac.

How about someone actually does some testing before starting these rumors?
 
I haven't read through all the posts, just want to report that AirPrint is working fine for me.

I am running the latest 10.6.5 build 10H574 (the one released Monday) and iPad 4.2 GM. I am able to print to my HP OfficeJet Pro K550 shared from my Mac.

How about someone actually does some testing before starting these rumors?

I did. It didn't print to my Canon printer. Running the same build. It sees the printers but will not print to them.

So people are testing it and are getting mixed results. What version of iTunes? Did you have 10.6.5 builds before?
 
What I actually meant was the data would be sent in a format that is not printer ready, basically raw data that itunes would then be able to then send to the printer.
1 - raw data
2 - raw data goes to iTunes
3 - iTunes will then reconstruct this data as either images and text on A4, and then the reconstructed document is sent to the printer.

the first 2 steps are ignorant of the printer used, the 3rd step is basically itunes processing the document to the printer, so iTunes already has the driver info via the OS not iTunes itself.

Its literally bypassing the whole print process, but more a way of transmitting the doc to iTunes, and then iTunes printing the document using the OS driver.

So how are you arguing that is different from:

gimzotoy said:
1) Pass document off to Mac or Windows to deal with drivers (the computer has to be on!)

It looks like exactly the same thing. If you ignore the word "iTunes", Steps 2 and 3 here are the very definition of a printer driver.

In any case, I wasn't really proposing any implementation details. In fact, the implementation is completely irrelevant to my original point, but I am curious as to what you're getting at here.
 
Like in schools, kids in special ed have what's called an Individualized Education Plan, or IEP. I don't know the specific law, but it states that schools must keep a paper copy of anything relating the IEP, to my knowledge. This is basically so that the schools are meeting the IEP and the kids are getting an appropriate education. I don't know if you have kids, but if you do, I'm sure you want the teachers to be doing everything that's needed and expected of them.

Let's also not forget that just about every state court in this country requires paper, usually by court rule, which is pretty much "law".

Federal courts have largely converted to electronic filing, but even they still require paper in some instances (e.g. pro se litigants).

There's no magical solution to getting rid of the "paper problem."
 
I haven't read through all the posts, just want to report that AirPrint is working fine for me.

I am running the latest 10.6.5 build 10H574 (the one released Monday) and iPad 4.2 GM. I am able to print to my HP OfficeJet Pro K550 shared from my Mac.

How about someone actually does some testing before starting these rumors?

Did you previously run the earlier betas on that machine?
I have a theory that the upgrade to the latest beta has removed the support but won't remove the support files if they've been installed from an earlier beta (as they weren't there in the original 10.6.4, the update won't remove them)
This would explain why the latest beta works for some people and not for others
 
Did you previously run the earlier betas on that machine?
I have a theory that the upgrade to the latest beta has removed the support but won't remove the support files if they've been installed from an earlier beta (as they weren't there in the original 10.6.4, the update won't remove them)
This would explain why the latest beta works for some people and not for others

It removed the handshake, not the ability to see the printers.
 
I would say their process is wrong. Progressive has e-signature for almost everything. Isn't it a pain to have to print and mail? Multiply that by hundreds of thousands of customers. Such a waste. Demand better from this company.

Many countries including mine require by law that certain documents are signed by a physical pen. Send me an email as soon as you have convinced my country to change the law, and I will gladly stop printing. Thank you.
 
The same thing works from a Mac, and has for years. Even if they must specify for more specific system reqs, this is a needed feature. There’s just about nobody who has any other way to print than the setup they’ve cancelled support for. That may change gradually in the years ahead, but for now... home printers are attached to computers.

Let’s hope this is a feature they’ve cut temporarily so that they can ship others sooner.

At least let us print-to-PDF and email it from any app.
 
Totally works

Airprint functionality isn't gone at all, just test with 10.6.5 10H574 and 4.2 (8C134). Perhaps it's just the name, since there is a company named Airprint Networks, there could be a legal challenge. Remember the Rendezvous name changing to Bonjour?
 
Not for everyone...

Airprint functionality isn't gone at all, just test with 10.6.5 10H574 and 4.2 (8C134). Perhaps it's just the name, since there is a company named Airprint Networks, there could be a legal challenge. Remember the Rendezvous name changing to Bonjour?

There are plenty of reports in this thread of that combination not working: I think the one thing that is clear is that it's not clear ;)
 
Well, even if there's issues. I think I speak for everybody when I say:


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
Why again was it pulled? AirPrint was the whole reason I was excited to upgrade to 4.2. Now I couldn't care less. Thanks a lot Apple. :mad:

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they were having major issues getting it to work properly.
 
The point of things like iPad is the device is portable and prevents the need for printing anything. I'm glad they dropped the feature. Stop printing things. There is nearly no reason to do it anymore. If you are printing, your process is wrong. Re-evaluate! Challenge your company to reduce paper waste.

Students still have to print things out to turn in and employees still submit paper reports.
 
Airprint functionality isn't gone at all, just test with 10.6.5 10H574 and 4.2 (8C134). Perhaps it's just the name, since there is a company named Airprint Networks, there could be a legal challenge. Remember the Rendezvous name changing to Bonjour?

Your experience is not what some are getting, including myself. The only way we'll be able to tell what is going on is 1) compile the information as to what build of 10.6.5, what version of iTunes, what build of 4.2, what device, and what printer make/model it is or 2) wait until word from Apple.

If you want to do the first option, here you go: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...DVCYTZPVlMwdVBFdndRT3c&hl=en&authkey=CMbm_YII
 
So I am interested in what constitutes a "real solution". Printing has long been a problem, fraught with obnoxious drivers and half-baked workarounds re: memory & processing power limitations. If any company can re-examine the problem to its core and formulate a good solution, it's Apple.

Really? Because if this is true they just failed in doing exactly that.
 
I'd like to see you try and completely reconfigure printing and it's core functionality without having to have some interoperability with the old way of doing things.

The point is they failed. And after they fail is not a time to gloat that they are the only company that can achieve it. Whether I could do it or not is irrelevant.
 
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