Wait until you hear how many governments work still!
(speaking of things "dead men said" long ago)
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Apple Denied Permission to Appeal UK App Store Ruling
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Wait until you hear how many governments work still!
(speaking of things "dead men said" long ago)
"They" will tell you that it's because we need cell phones to live. While we don't need gaming systems of any kind to live in the modern world. However, they fail to mention the fact that the system Apple is using had to come from something. And they based it off of what already existed i.e. physical stores. They also charged "less" than any physical store would charge given the time and even today. 30% is the price it was since inception and never went higher. So this ruling literally makes no sense. Since the price they charged was lower than any other at the time. It also never went up and only went down.
While Steve may have intended to charge only what was needed to keep the store operational. He clearly came to his senses when he delivered the store to the masses and stated pretty darn clearly the 70/30 split. If anyone had an intention to do one thing but then executed something else. Do you get to hold them to the idea they started out with or the one they ended up doing? It's a non-sense argument that was used to prove something that clearly did not happen. And if they did not want to pay the fee. They did not have to engage with Apple to start with. They could have kicked rocks with the handheld flip phones or sidekicks or BlackBerries of the day. And while those phone makers are no more. They could also go to Android and third party stores that live happily there.
And even if I wanted to agree with the court ruling on this. That $1 billion dollars is not all going back to the people that actually paid for apps. How much of it goes to lawyers that have no skin in the game? How much of it goes back to the developers that will claim it as profits they could have made. You would be lucky to see 1/3 of that billion go back to the people that actually spent the extra 30%. So a 1/3rd of a 1/3rd. Thanks...
At least on PlayStation, yes. They do now sell a $100 disc drive to add to the updated digital-only version, but it doesn't work with the perviously-sold digital-only version. (In other words, if you have the original digital only PS5, then you have to buy your games through the PlayStation online store.)
You'll be shocked to know that apparently Epic has no issue with this when Sony does it.
I don't like anything I see going on in Consoles, I'll admit.
With PS5, there was a choice of which to buy up front, and now that the lineup is tweaked, to your point, you can buy a disc drive add-on if you want it (as you stated).
I don't think it's fair to compare the current lineup to the past PS5 lineup in terms of add on hardware drive compatibility. At the time the v1 digital only model was sold, there was a disc version one could buy instead.
As this relates to iPhones, I've wondered about Apple selling a "Pro" or "Dev" line of iPhones that specifically has App abilities more akin to Macs...sort of their version of selling a Digital vs Disc PS5.
This argument is severely overstating the importance of a smart phone. My elderly grandparents get by just fine with flip phones. There are things called websites you can visit to do everything you need. I don’t do anything on my smartphone either.
You don't have to buy apps for your phone, you will live without them
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The game you buy at Target the game maker still pays a fee of 15% to MS.
You will pay a fee to gaming platform for the games you sell through thrid party reailers, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo always get their cut, this part that people are really missing.
And Chevy has a monopoly on Chevy vehicles. Ford with Ford. Audi with Audi. McDonalds with McDonalds. You could go on and on and on and on.
These people are absolute ****ing idiots.
These people are absolute ****ing idiots.
Do you actually think "grandparents get by without a smartphone" is relevant overall?
They aren't of prime working age and out and in the economy.
By definition they are on the way out (it gives me no pleasure to say that, it's just how it is once we all get to a certain age).
I guess if that makes you feel better, but if they are not going to go after every platform this clearly an attack on Apple.
For what it's worth, I could probably accept some sort of compromise where users had to actively purchase a "third party software" license (maybe even included in the pro phones with Apple being able to put up a warning screen about the dangers of installing unapproved software).
I don't think regulators would possibly allow it, and most of MacRumors would throw a fit about greedy Apple.
They are going after the Play store, as well:
SMS investigation into Google’s mobile platform
The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) investigated whether to designate Google as having strategic market status (SMS) in the provision of its mobile platform.
Currently:
- Require Google to make the app review process fair, objective, and transparent, with clear criteria, timelines, and explanations for rejections.
- Require fair, objective, and transparent app store ranking and discoverability, preventing Google from favoring its own apps.
- Prohibit Google from using developer or app data obtained through review or gatekeeping processes to benefit its own competing services.
- Require Google to allow app developers to steer users toward alternative payment or distribution options outside the Play Store.
- Intervene in Google’s choice architecture for key services such as app stores, browsers, and wallets, to prevent default or pre-installation advantages for Google’s own products.
- Explore interoperability and competition in emerging areas, including support for Progressive Web Apps as alternatives to native apps.
- Require that users can set third-party apps as defaults instead of Google’s own, such as browsers, search, or voice assistants.
- Require improved data transfer and switching APIs to make it easier for users to move between Android and iOS.
- Review Google’s agreements with device manufacturers and mobile network operators for possible restrictions on competition.
- Ensure remedies are effective and proportionate, avoiding unnecessary burdens on the market.
- Coordinate with other international regulators to align interventions and avoid duplication.
- Update the roadmap in 2026 and revise as needed thereafter.
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As I said, Apple could still take some reduced fee via this method, just as Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo do.
Pretty sure it's the same fee, not reduced.
I also personally suspect Apple would still fight allowing third party stores even if they got to keep their fee, because it's worse for Apple's users. Maybe not as hard though. It'd be interesting to see a country try that, but there's no regulator in the world who'd try that.
In the context of smartphones are REQUIRED to LIVE. Yes. Especially with the elderly who need to monitor their health and finances much more closely.
Take me for example. I just have my yearly doctor visit. But my grandma has been in the ER and hospital 8 times already this year. They can get by just fine accessing their bank, insurance, talk to doctors etc without the smartphone.
This whole initiative isn’t driven by customers. It’s driven by Epic and Spotify. They don’t care about the customer, they just want to maximize their profits.
So Apple creates a product and then, despite the massive belief that it would not succeed, it developed a market for it and now society deems is indispensable. Therefore the government needs to get involved. Ok.
That's nice.
I still want to be able install apps outside of Apple's control, be it another store or just loading .ipa files. I don't care who, why, or how it happens.
Who are you talking about when you say "these people"?
No they don't. I can get parts from anyone I want, I can have them repaired anywhere I want or I can do it myself, I can modify them however I want.
..and get this, it doesn't even the void the car's warranty!
You can repair your phone anywhere you want including doing it yourself. And you can void your car warranty by making modifcations.
Modifications do not automatically void a car warranty
under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a manufacturer must prove a modification directly caused the failure of a specific part to deny a claim. While some modifications like cosmetic changes or basic bolt-on parts (e.g., wheels, suspension) are less likely to cause issues, performance modifications that alter engine, transmission, or drivetrain components (like engine tuning or turbo kits) can lead to a denial of warranty for those affected systems. The manufacturer can only deny coverage for the parts that were directly impacted by the modification, not the entire warranty.
It's pretty Buch the UK shaking down a foreign company because, well, the UK has squat in tech. So they basically feel they want Apple to pay more for doing business in their country. That Apple has a monopoly on their product is ridiculous logic. Why should only Ford make Fords then? And last I checked Playstation and Xbox control their stores. There is no logic, just greed.
Modifications and repairs do automatically void your phones warranty, which is my point, or so The Geniuses say.