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Apple Denies Knowledge of NSA's iPhone Spying Program
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personal experience
back in the old country the KGB once paid my parents a visit to ask why we would go to Moscow so often and stay so long
the old country was the most worthless and depressing country i've ever been to. except for north korea. never been there but i visited the DMZ one time and looked into it
I apologize ahead of time for my bluntness but this is something I feel very strongly about. People deserve privacy. That's why we have walls and doors and locks. That's why we keep secrets. That's why the GOVERNMENT keeps secrets. It's not in the best interest of people that everything be open for people to look at. People that don't understand this are ruining the planet. They are truly a waste of space.
can I have your SSN number? all of your passwords? can I peek through your web cam at will?
there is a little pesky document called the Constitution, in there you might want to look at the 4TH amendment .
Sorry for your family's unfortunate experience.
Shall I counter with multiple FBI violations of civil rights?
Personal, anecdotal, material is not sourcing your assertion in any usefully objective manner. You made a general assertion...need objective support.
Good god, that is some Ron Paul anti-government crackpot level of tinfoil.
What if you trip over a twig and get hit by a bus?
What if you wake up blind?
What if you win the lottery tomorrow and get a million dollars?
I can play the hypothetical game, too.
So an Ad Hominis attack followed up by some non-relevant examples in form of a false dichotomy.
Are you paid to spread disinformation? Some nice skills there, bro.
I respectfully disagree, but I concede that was a distinct possibility.
Either way, the complete lack of followup to ensure that doesn't happen again AND the complete lack of prosecuting anyone AND allowing those banks to continue their predatory practices AND allowing them to use taxpayer money to give themselves bonuses is inexcusable. We should have nationalized every company that was bailed out. I think we still should, and we should strip all of the executives of their entire backpay to 2008, save for what they would have earned at minimum wage.
They screwed over half the planet and their punishment was billions of dollars directly into their bank accounts.
nothing to hide nothing to fear? At best that only works when the things you currently consider innocuous remain so in the future
I doubt european jews were overly fussed in the early days of the 20th century when various local govts required that they and everyone else register their religious persuasion. Just another box to tick on the forms.
How about the secret ballot when it comes to elections? Why hide who you vote for; surely 'unless you have something to hide' you should be proud of your choice. So lets have a big sign in the voting booth that lights up to indicate your choice, and a camera to take your photo while it's at it.
Yes govts need some personal information (your income for tax purposes your educational attainment, health stats to ensure adequate future provision of services, your criminal record and whether you have attained sufficient ability to be allowed to drive etc).
But there needs to be clear cut demonstrable benefits anytime they come looking for more of it.
I doubt european jews were overly fussed in the early days of the 20th century when various local govts required that they and everyone else register their religious persuasion. Just another box to tick on the forms.
How about the secret ballot when it comes to elections? Why hide who you vote for; surely 'unless you have something to hide' you should be proud of your choice. So lets have a big sign in the voting booth that lights up to indicate your choice, and a camera to take your photo while it's at it.
Yes govts need some personal information (your income for tax purposes your educational attainment, health stats to ensure adequate future provision of services, your criminal record and whether you have attained sufficient ability to be allowed to drive etc).
But there needs to be clear cut demonstrable benefits anytime they come looking for more of it.
Well, that's until the FBI wants to pay you a visit because someone you know is on their list of suspects, and they ask for your cooperation by saying something about how it would be so sad when your brother goes to jail for downloading child pr0n.
No, that never happens here.
assuming he would get a check at all, the GOVT is more than happy to black mail you one way or another.
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I can almost taste the sarcasm
The same guy that got a new car often to avoid having an actual license plate so he couldn't be tracked?
We have different opinions about the bailout itself, but I agree with you otherwise. We had people in front of congress who did nothing but plead the 5th over their role in the subprime mortgage crisis, and no one took the time to investigate any farther. Someone should've gone to jail for something. If not orchestrating it, then for exploiting the situation and making it far worse.
Hell, the whole subprime mortgage issue in general just goes to show how far Wall Street is willing to go to make a buck. They got so greedy, they nearly cannibalized themselves, and almost took the rest of us down with them.
Yeah frankly speaking I agree with you 100%. I've always been for privacy, but the spying & surveillance is becoming more and more prevalent in the U.S.
Generally these policy's make their way into other countries like Canada in one form or another, which is a shame because thats where I live
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It wasn't Wall Street...you can thank Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the rest of the liberal government programs. Then throw Clinton in the mix with his "everyone should own a home" policies. The banks were trying not to get in trouble for not approving people and being accused of discrimination.
It's sad to watch what happened to our country in the last 10 years... Look around you, every hick town has a militarized police force with mobile command centers, armed vehicles and even tanks. Half the time the cops shooting each other when they chase some poor slob trying to get away from them. We take our shoes off in order to fly anywhere just to be on the safe side.
Frequently I see Mug shots and descriptions of people accused os shop lifting on the local news.
Everybody is ready to fight terrorism and in the progress we are terrorizing ourselves ..... but god forbid we pass a gun control law, that would infringe on our rights
Say what you want, when a few thousand fanatics can change the lives of billions of people they have probably won this round. From the looks of it they will keep winning.
Sounds like what hoover did. Get dirt on everyone so when needed, use it against them. Only the fanboys will defend apple at all costs. Apple is no different than any other company that the NSA strong armed into doing this crap. For those who think this story is true, I have some ocean front property in kansas I will sell you cheap.
Apple is not lying. They have never done anything to betray our trust and confidence, and that is why we love them. We have every reason to believe what Apple has said here is the whole truth.
You may not have anything to hide but there are plenty of people who have valid reasons to hide information (journalists, corporate secret holders, etc) and if they can tap into your life they can tap into the life of those other people too. It doesn't have to be about you. The NSA may have good intentions currently but if they gathered enough power, they could really do a lot of damage if things went haywire. It seems to me that our government works for the people because of checks and balances. The NSA seems to be a little too far outside of the bounds and does not have adequate checks and balance. It's difficult to check something so secretive.