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I have said it before, but IMO if Apple ports Xcode to iOS that would be the time to worry.
 
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Lol why do some people seem to get irate that Apple is pushing the iPad as a laptop replacement? For a lot of people it is. Everything you “present” as “evidence” against the iPad being a replacement device is purely anecdotal. Hate to break it to some of you but the iPad/iPad Pro CAN be a computer replacement for some people. Not everyone is a “pro” user. I’d argue that half the people that refer to themselves as “pros” aren’t.
This. Apple isn’t saying the iPad is a laptop replacement for everyone (it’s not). But no doubt a lot of people were/are using their laptop for things that could easily be done on iPad.
 
I regularly commute to London and what I see is 90% of the people using Excel and then followed by word docs and email etc. I see the same in coffee shops or hotel lobby when people are working remotely etc.

I like the iPad for personal use but I don't see how Apple can position it as a laptop replacement when it can't do the main tasks that people need it to do.

Thanks
 
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The problem here is that Apple is assuming that nobody in a flight is going to open a Terminal and invoke the C compiler. And the shocking reality is that one of the main reasons why I switched to the Mac years ago is how well the Terminal worked (as opposed to Windows) in a computer that "just worked" (as opposed as a Linux PC).

But now, Apple says to us: "go away, use a Linux PC".
And where excactly is Apple saying that the iPad is a Mac replacement for pro users? They’re not saying that.
The iPad is still years behind for people that create using conventional programs, such as terminal, excel, illustrator, etc.
But most people are passive consumers, for which the iPad is great.

Tim Cook must have said a thousand times now that they will NOT merge iOS and macOS. They’re unifying them with better app compatibility and frameworks, which is great.

You will still be able to type in your terminal. For most people however, a laptop is not needed, and they will Netflix and Facebook happily on an iPad.

The iPad is not enough for many people. The iMac pro is too much for many people. I think it’s great that Apple offers more choice nowadays, where everyone can get something that meets their needs.
 
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I can back up my iPad to my Mac. I won’t be able to do that with just an iPad.

Also I enjoy running full desktop applications on my MBP, it’s just not the same on a touch device.

Not yet anyways.

Apple believes you should be storing all your documents in the (i)cloud, so no need for backup to a desktop.
 
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. . . . . It's just that even with the iPad Pro handwriting and note taking still doesn't feel like a first class feature of the iPad. It's good, but not still not great and I think Apple could do better especially if the are starting to promote this as a differentiating feature from the rest of the tablet market.

This pretty much sums up Apple at the moment. Features are good, but not great. It seems Apple's user software is just thrown together to make the keynote, then forgotten as all of the engineers move on to the next great thing. It is sad what Apple has become.

I know they are profitable. But Apple can only rest on their laurels for so long. Look at Siri, no one takes it seriously. Why? Because they ignored it for the first 5 years after it was introduced. I would never rely on Apple software since I know that, with few exceptions, most user programs will be abandoned shortly after introduction. If they don't get outright abandoned, then the programs will stop getting updates for 2 to 3 years while the successor with fewer features is being worked on.

The only exception is when Apple gets slammed in the media, or competitors make Apple look bad.
 
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I regularly commute to London and what I see is 90% of the people using Excel and then followed by word docs and email etc. I see the same in coffee shops or hotel lobby when people are working remotely etc.

I like the iPad for personal use but I don't see how Apple can position it as a laptop replacement when it can't do the main tasks that people need it to do.

Thanks
Are you saying it cannot do excel, word, or email?
 
I thought those ads were actually quite good. My iPad Pro is my favourite Apple product by far. I prefer the touch screen to a touchpad and mouse. My only gripe is that using the iPad can be frustrating sometimes as Apple have deliberately limited some of it’s functionality to the extent that you have to use it in conjunction with a computer so it’s not an entirely standalone device.
 
It's funny how much Apple has embraced the stylus while Jobs was vehemently opposed to making the iPad a large PDA.

The funny part is that people do not understand that the "Pencil "is embraced as a DESIGN TOOL not as a pointing device, and had you tried using the stylus ehmm pardon pencil as a pointing device on the iPad you'd understand why it sucks at such job.

The Pencil is an awesome tool for the right "Jobs" ;)

P.S. Jobs was NEVER ever against design tools and the iPad is definetly NOT a large PDA :D
 
Really really looking forward to the iPad with FaceID. Hoping for the same size 12.9 but in a smaller form factor!
I have 12.9 (1), waiting for new same size screen (need more storage-notwithstanding cloud) and I think what you are saying is same screen size as 12.9 with smaller footprint. I’m all in for that but won’t give up my larger screensize.
 
Why does it need to replace a laptop. My guess is a lot of people were/are using laptops for things that don’t require a precision pointing device. For me personally if Apple allowed media to be synced to music and TV apps, allowed metadata editing and provided access to this media in the Files app I’d never have a reason to use my old windows PC. The only reason I use it now is for things that can only be done with desktop iTunes.

This is a continual annoyance, inflexibility of putting media on iOS devices. Android has this better, you can plug them in and copy media onto device. Same goes with emailed media, you cant store them on the iOS device directly from email or web browser - only PDFs and eBooks so far have this capability in iOS
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I regularly commute to London and what I see is 90% of the people using Excel and then followed by word docs and email etc. I see the same in coffee shops or hotel lobby when people are working remotely etc.

I like the iPad for personal use but I don't see how Apple can position it as a laptop replacement when it can't do the main tasks that people need it to do.

Thanks

The MS Office apps for iOS dont work well enough for most use cases?
 
I thought those ads were actually quite good. My iPad Pro is my favourite Apple product by far. I prefer the touch screen to a touchpad and mouse. My only gripe is that using the iPad can be frustrating sometimes as Apple have deliberately limited some of it’s functionality to the extent that you have to use it in conjunction with a computer so it’s not an entirely standalone device.

I’ll agree with that. Own a 15”Macbook Pro but prefer my 12.9 first gen Ipad Pro (waiting for 3rd gen). I have to do roundabouts to/from Mac for some things (like access to external drives)
 
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An iPad will never be a laptop replacement without mouse support. An iPad is a superior product in many ways than a laptop, but for specific situations, a mouse is needed in order to truly replace the laptop.
I prefer to think of the iPad as a laptop alternative for people who aren’t being adequately served by laptops.

To use an analogy, these are the people who were trying to drive in screws using a hammer because the screwdriver hadn’t been invented yet. I can’t do everything I need to do on an iPad, but I find my iPad pro does what I need it to do well enough. For the rest, there’s my iMac and school-issued laptop and I am content to spread my work across so many different devices.
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This is a continual annoyance, inflexibility of putting media on iOS devices. Android has this better, you can plug them in and copy media onto device. Same goes with emailed media, you cant store them on the iOS device directly from email or web browser - only PDFs and eBooks so far have this capability in iOS
Documents app from Readdle.
 
I don't currently agree with that. A precision pen (with a very fine point) *could* recoup most all of the functions one would typically use a mouse for on a tablet (such as photo editing).

What functions do you find that necessitate a mouse?

Of those functions, which ones do you find that a pen could not do?

Working within Unity requires a mouse and keyboard on the most basic level just for navigation but mostly for input.

A finger or even a 'pencil' just isn't accurate enough.
 
I actually like the new touch screen Windows tablets. Best of both worlds. I would likely go that route nowadays...
 
The first ad is for an iPad Pro and not a iPad. You cannot buy a detachable keyboard like the one shown for the iPad.

Well, you can't buy Apple's one, but you can easily get one from Logitech or Anker or whatever. I used an Ultraslim logitech one with my iPad Air 2 and it worked great - battery lasts forever, keys are comfortable to type on.
 
I prefer to think of the iPad as a laptop alternative for people who aren’t being adequately served by laptops.

To use an analogy, these are the people who were trying to drive in screws using a hammer because the screwdriver hadn’t been invented yet. I can’t do everything I need to do on an iPad, but I find my iPad pro does what I need it to do well enough. For the rest, there’s my iMac and school-issued laptop and I am content to spread my work across so many different devices.
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Documents app from Readdle.

Thanks for the suggestion. However, the app cant put the MP3 directly into the Apple music library, or place videos diretly in to the apple video library. These sort of iOS apps that handle those file types with transfers to that specific app have been around a while, still not what I want especially when dealing with other peoples iOS devices who only use the default Apple apps.

Maybe in next couple releases Apple will FINALLY allow audio and video file transfer directly as they do with images, PDF, and eBooks now. Its likely due to the agreement with the music industry dating back to the iPod days to control piracy and force people to use iTunes to purchase music onto their device.
 
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