One woman can make a baby in nine months, but nine women cannot make a baby in one month.
...Hold my beer.
One woman can make a baby in nine months, but nine women cannot make a baby in one month.
After return period. “It is operating within specs”I just wonder how Apple will spin their phone's cellular capabilities this year with so many people knowing that the Intel modems aren't great.
I have no idea and probably neither does Tom Cook.And what do you have in mind? The successor of today's smartphone will be what exactly?
The Information has published a lengthy look into Apple's seemingly deteriorating relationship with Intel in terms of iPhone modems, leading to Apple's rekindled relationship with rival chipmaker Qualcomm last month.
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The report claims that Apple's frustrations with Intel's modem efforts began much earlier than some previous reports had indicated, and involved struggles with modems for the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR, not just 5G smartphone modem development that Intel abandoned last month.The size and structure of Intel's mobile division made it difficult to efficiently engineer modems, with teams struggling to work together, according to multiple current and former Intel employees and industry partners cited in the report.
In a statement provided to The Information, Intel also confirmed interest in its modem business from many companies, reportedly including Apple:While it appears that Apple and Qualcomm's multi-year licensing and chipset supply agreement will result in Qualcomm supplying modems for the first 5G-enabled iPhones, expected to launch in 2020, multiple reports have indicated that Apple is on the path to developing its own cellular modems.
According to The Information, however, those in-house efforts appear to be farther away than initially thought. During interviews, the report claims Apple told prospective engineers that it expects to have its own modem ready by 2025, far later than the earliest considered possibility of 2021.
All in all, the report reaffirms the belief that Apple was so fed up with Intel's modem struggles that it had little to no choice but to settle its bitter legal battle with Qualcomm. That should result in Qualcomm modems in iPhones for at least a few years, at least until Apple finalizes its own chip.
Article Link: Apple-Designed iPhone Modems Could Take Until 2025, Intel Confirms Interest in Its Modem Business
Businesses run on Windows / Intel. In the consumer space, consumers run on Android or iOS. Combined, the iOS & Android market, are 2X the size of the Windows / Intel marketThanks for making me spit my coffee out at the comment about Dex, as if it's actually useful for anything or represents a threat to Intel or anyone else. Same with Chrome OS, the wannabee desktop OS.
The world runs on Windows/Intel, and that's not going to change anytime soon.
Businesses run on Windows / Intel. In the consumer space, consumers run on Android or iOS. Combined, the iOS & Android market, are 2X the size of the Windows / Intel market
Even if Apple released their own 5G modem this year, they would still require hundreds of millions of Qulacomm 3G/4G/5G modems for all of the older model iPhones (ones they haven't even made yet) that they will sell years from now, especially now that Intel is out of the game.makes sense that its that far off, considering Apple have entered into a 6 year agreement with Qualcomm.
When doing business, things happen. Intel has been Apple’s partner for more than a decade, so it’s normal to try to collaborate with them. But intel dropped the ball. So what matters is the next move, and Apple decided to cut their loses with intel and deal with Qualcomm.Whatever you think of Qualcomm's "evilness" and Apple's "kindness" this makes Apple's recent years course of action rather foolish.
And they are supposedly much better informed.
Just stating facts. Windows/Intel is so entrenched in so many areas that I just don't see it changing, even if Intel or Microsoft make a few blunders along the way.
I predict that next year you will predict something completely differnt.I predict Apple's 5G wireless chip will suffer the same fate as their wireless charging pad.
Feel free to loathe Apple and its users, but not because you think Apple or its fans were displaying arrogance in thinking that Apple could make a modem in 2021. That was the reporting, and only a tiny fraction of 1% of MR forum posters have the industry-specific technical knowledge to know a cellular baseband chip is a 5-7 year effort.
That said, Apple has been rumored for many years to be working on a baseband chip. If the effort started in 2015, then 2021 is plausible as an “at the earliest” availability date. But if it only began in earnest last year, then 2025 is a much better estimate.
It’s not Apple and it’s users that came up with the 2021 date. It first surfaced in a December 2018 article, attributed to The Information.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/12/iphones-apple-designed-modems-2021/
Then, MR started repeating it in later articles:
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/08/huawei-5g-chips-apple/
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/16/huawei-apple-had-no-talks-about-5g/
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/04/16/intel-exits-5g-smartphone-modem-business/
Feel free to loathe Apple and its users, but not because you think Apple or its fans were displaying arrogance in thinking that Apple could make a modem in 2021. That was the reporting, and only a tiny fraction of 1% of MR forum posters have the industry-specific technical knowledge to know a cellular baseband chip is a 5-7 year effort.
That said, Apple has been rumored for many years to be working on a baseband chip. If the effort started in 2015, then 2021 is plausible as an “at the earliest” availability date. But if it only began in earnest last year, then 2025 is a much better estimate.
Because they don't know what they are talking about.That is why I do not understand why some people thought Apple could easily develop a modem (like poof! magically) and deliver the best performance that somehow is able to beat Qualcomm's? This is call pure fanboy-ism
That is why I do not understand why some people thought Apple could easily develop a modem (like poof! magically) and deliver the best performance that somehow is able to beat Qualcomm's? This is call pure fanboy-ism
OH! THAT'S ALL??Apple has $243B in cash reserves ending Q2 2019. Not Trillions. Although I assume you were being hyperbolic.![]()
OH! THAT'S ALL??
In that case, they can't even afford to update a MacPro every 6 years.... might take 10 years.
Everything's explained clearly, now.
I predict that next year you will predict something completely differnt.
Thanks for making me spit my coffee out at the comment about Dex, as if it's actually useful for anything or represents a threat to Intel or anyone else. Same with Chrome OS, the wannabee desktop OS.
The world runs on Windows/Intel, and that's not going to change anytime soon.
Until it does. That is how innovation works, it sneaks up on the dominate player. Now considering that almost every free linux version works on various non-intel processors. Considering that almost all serious apps are designed to run in or from the cloud there is no longer a tie to Intel processors. It's very easy for most applications to be recompiled and to run on multiple architectures.
We are just waiting for something to push the market over the edge.
No one knows when, or what sequence of events will start the avalanche, but I would not be holding Intel stock right now.
makes sense that its that far off, considering Apple have entered into a 6 year agreement with Qualcomm.
I predict Apple's 5G wireless chip will suffer the same fate as their wireless charging pad.
Apple discusses their hardware developement scheduling during job interviews.During interviews, the report claims Apple told prospective engineers that it expects to have its own modem ready by 2025
LOL. Apple has demonstrated industry leading chip design and development that is now the envy of the tech world, so much so that Google is now trying to figure out how to emulate Apple.