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In order to help customers understand which iPhone 5 models will support LTE in which countries and on which carriers, Apple has posted a new guide outlining the three different model variants and their compatibility.

The North America-focused GSM model is compatible with LTE service on AT&T in the United States and Bell, Rogers and Telus in Canada. The CDMA model is compatible with LTE on Sprint and Verizon in the United States, as well as KDDI in Japan.

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For the international-focused GSM model, LTE is supported on ten different networks in Germany, the UK, Australia, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, and Singapore.

This information is for the first round of launches taking place on September 21, and Apple will presumably be updating this page with additional entries for later markets that are also rolling out LTE on frequencies compatible with these devices.

Article Link: Apple Details iPhone 5 LTE Carrier Compatibility
 

benguild

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So, if we buy the Verizon model, does it also work on the international LTE bands mentioned in the GSM international model?

This is quite confusing! I want something I can roam with. It has 3G support for UTMS/HSPA/HSPA+ apparently, hmm.
 

milan03

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Just to note that if you want global LTE coverage (sans Canada), get a Verizon LTE unlocked phone. You are covered wherever you are WITH LTE not only HSPA.

AT&T's unlocked version will get you covered globally on HSPA, and potentially on T-Mobile's LTE once they launch since it's also band 4, as well as MetroPCS Band 4. Also Canadian LTE carriers use the same LTE bands so that's covered.

And that Global version, I honestly have no idea why anyone in the US would buy knowing that Verizon iPhone give you all those bands and more.
 
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jelew1985

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What is the different between gsm and CDMA?

GSM: Requires a SIM in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Better compatibility internationally)

CDMA: Doesn't have a SIM card in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Restricted compatibilities (primarily in the US))
 

Agent OrangeZ

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So... AT&T's iPhone could roam on Canadian LTE networks and Verizon's can roam on Japan's LTE networks. Both can roam on HSPA+ throughout the world.
 

Sincci

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GSM: Requires a SIM in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Better compatibility internationally)

CDMA: Doesn't have a SIM card in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Restricted compatibilities (primarily in the US))

That however doesn't apply if the phone supports LTE since LTE requires a sim card, even on cdma phones.
 

milan03

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No.
1. All phones roam on GSM/HSPA

2. AT&T only roams on Canadian LTE. HSPA it'll roam globally.

3. Verizon/Sprint roams in Europe, Asia, Australia on LTE (no Canada) and globally on GSM/HSPA/CDMA.

4. All phones use SIM cards. Required for LTE.

5. Additionally, AT&T's unlocked phone will be capable connecting to future T-Mobile LTE network.
 

chrmjenkins

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No.
1. All phones roam on GSM/HSPA

2. AT&T only roams on Canadian LTE. HSPA it'll roam globally.

3. Verizon roams in Europe, Asia, Australia on LTE (no Canada) and globally on GSM/HSPA/CDMA.

4. All phones use SIM cards. Required for LTE.

What he said isn't incorrect. You just provided a more detailed version (adding locales other than Japan where Verizon version roams on LTE).
 

theBB

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No.
1. All phones roam on GSM/HSPA

2. AT&T only roams on Canadian LTE. HSPA it'll roam globally.

3. Verizon/Sprint roams in Europe, Asia, Australia on LTE (no Canada) and globally on GSM/HSPA/CDMA.

4. All phones use SIM cards. Required for LTE.

5. Additionally, AT&T's unlocked phone will be capable connecting to future T-Mobile LTE network.
One more reason to switch to Virgin Mobile (US) and its $30 per month plan.
 

John.B

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Just to note that if you want global LTE coverage (sans Canada), get a Verizon LTE unlocked phone. You are covered wherever you are WITH LTE not only HSPA.

AT&T's unlocked version will get you covered globally on HSPA, and potentially on T-Mobile's LTE once they launch since it's also band 4, as well as MetroPCS Band 4. Also Canadian LTE carriers use the same LTE bands so that's covered.

And that Global version, I honestly have no idea why anyone in the US would buy knowing that Verizon iPhone give you all those bands and more.

But Verizon's LTE fallback is to slow-as-**** EVDO.
 

chrmjenkins

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Do your research and stop spreading false information.

What he said is a subset of the information you presented, meaning it is logically correct by extension. At no point did he say those were the only networks/standards it would roam on. Get off your high horse.
 

milo

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Aaaaanyhoww..... here is another confirmation of what I already said

And what he already said, since everything in your post agreed with what he said. Still can't figure out what the "no" was about with all your info confirming what he said.
 

dontwalkhand

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GSM: Requires a SIM in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Better compatibility internationally)

CDMA: Doesn't have a SIM card in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Restricted compatibilities (primarily in the US))

Wrong. CDMA LTE Still requires a SIM Card
 

machpost

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No.
1. All phones roam on GSM/HSPA

2. AT&T only roams on Canadian LTE. HSPA it'll roam globally.

3. Verizon/Sprint roams in Europe, Asia, Australia on LTE (no Canada) and globally on GSM/HSPA/CDMA.

4. All phones use SIM cards. Required for LTE.

5. Additionally, AT&T's unlocked phone will be capable connecting to future T-Mobile LTE network.

Just so I'm clear: If I buy a Verizon iPhone 5, I'll be able to make and receive phone calls in Europe?
 

chrmjenkins

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Just so I'm clear: If I buy a Verizon iPhone 5, I'll be able to make and receive phone calls in Europe?

Yes, the Verizon iPhone has always had global GSM roaming. LTE isn't essential for calls and isn't used in most cases. Compatability depends on the LTE bands used.
 
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