Apple Details iPhone 5 LTE Carrier Compatibility

[milan03]

Just so I'm clear: If I buy a Verizon iPhone 5, I'll be able to make and receive phone calls in Europe?

You're covered with voice no matter what. LTE is for data ONLY at the moment.

 

[Westyfield2]

UK

So the frequencies it supports LTE on are 2100 MHz, 1800 MHz, 850 MHz. http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/.
Everything Everywhere are launching their early 4G on 1800MHz in a couple of weeks time .

When the Ofcom auction happens next year for the other networks spectrum that's going to be 800MHz and 2600MHz... So the current iPhone 5 handsets will never do LTE on anything apart from Everything Everywhere!
LTE on O2/Vodafone when it finally launches will require a different handset... whether it's a iPhone 5S or iPhone 6 or whatever.

 

[milan03]

And what he already said, since everything in your post agreed with what he said. Still can't figure out what the "no" was about with all your info confirming what he said.

No because there is a lot more than those two countries. It's important that everyone knows all the possibilities rather than make it sound like only those two countries are covered.

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UK

So the frequencies it supports LTE on are 2100 MHz, 1800 MHz, 850 MHz. http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/.
Everything Everywhere are launching their early 4G on 1800MHz in a couple of weeks time .

When the Ofcom auction happens next year for the other networks spectrum that's going to be 800MHz and 2600MHz... So the current iPhone 5 handsets will never do LTE on anything apart from Everything Everywhere! LTE on O2/Vodafone when it finally launches will require a different handset... whether it's a iPhone 5S or iPhone 6 or whatever.

800/850Mhz is pretty much the same antenna setup (Verizon is really 750Mhz), do you know exactly which Band will they be using in the 800Mhz range?

 

[Westyfield2]

800/850Mhz is pretty much the same antenna setup (Verizon is really 750Mhz), do you know exactly which Band will they be using in the 800Mhz range?

From another interest of mine, I know that one of the frequencies used for Wireless Microphones/IEMs here in the UK is the European harmonized de-regulated licence-free spectrum 863-865MHz... so I'd guess what Ofcom are selling the mobile carriers for LTE is down near 800MHz rather than 850MHz.

 

[Mr Fusion]

Will the A1429 CDMA model support GSM networks in other countries?

Which of the 3 models support HSPA+?

Which of the 3 models will be sold factory unlocked in the USA?

 

[haydn!]

Everything Everywhere are launching 4G in a few weeks but only in a handful of cities as test areas.

Plus, is this only on the new EE brand or can Orange and T-mobile customers benefit? The whole Everything Everywhere setup is becoming a little confusing!

 

[chrmjenkins]

Will the A1429 CDMA model support GSM networks in other countries?

Which of the 3 models support HSPA+?

Which of the 3 models will be sold factory unlocked in the USA?

All models will support the same HSPA+/HSDPA/GSM/etc. networks regardless of what LTE bands they support.

For your second question, that's a good one. My guess is the first two, but not the international GSM one.

 

[s!ke]

AT&T is allowing us to keep unlimited data and get LTE on the new iPhone?

I would like to know too. Im going to ask ATT today if no one knows. Do we need to pay extra to get unlimited LTE?

 

[tungshi]

Do you think t-mobile usa will be have nano sim card?
Or maybe apple will not sell iphone 5 unlocked

 

[Mr Fusion]

All models will support the same HSPA+/HSDPA/GSM/etc. networks regardless of what LTE bands they support.

For your second question, that's a good one. My guess is the first two, but not the international GSM one.

Cool. I travel outside the USA a lot so the second model would be best for me since they support more LTE bands. I just wanted to make sure if LTE isn't available I'd still be able to use HSPA+ on a GSM network with the "CDMA" iPhone.

 

[milo]

No because there is a lot more than those two countries. It's important that everyone knows all the possibilities rather than make it sound like only those two countries are covered.

He never said it was just those two countries, someone asked about those two and he answered. If you misread his post, that's your bad.

 

[grad98cofc]

I'm currently living in Germany, using Vodafone. I'll probably be moving back to the states in a year or so, and will probably go with T-Mobile's unlimited 4G plan. So which unlocked GSM version should I get??? Or do I buy the unlocked CDMA version? Thanks in advance. I suppose sprint's unlimited pan is an option too...

 

[chrmjenkins]

Cool. I travel outside the USA a lot so the second model would be best for me since they support more LTE bands. I just wanted to make sure if LTE isn't available I'd still be able to use HSPA+ on a GSM network with the "CDMA" iPhone.

Just my opinion, but that would be a silly reason to choose a carrier over. What do you need international LTE for that HSPA+ can't do?

I'm currently living in Germany, using Vodafone. I'll probably be moving back to the states in a year or so, and will probably go with T-Mobile's unlimited 4G plan. So which unlocked GSM version should I get??? Or do I buy the unlocked CDMA version? Thanks in advance.

See below:

5. Additionally, AT&T's unlocked phone will be capable connecting to future T-Mobile LTE network.

 

[RXPskier]

I am currently an AT&T user, but with the LTE footprint that Verizon has i was thinking about switching to verizon...My question will the Verizon Model A1429 (CDMA model) work in Europe if LTE is not available?

 

[milan03]

I'm currently living in Germany, using Vodafone. I'll probably be moving back to the states in a year or so, and will probably go with T-Mobile's unlimited 4G plan. So which unlocked GSM version should I get??? Or do I buy the unlocked CDMA version? Thanks in advance.

If T-Mobie USA is your choice, definitely get AT&T model, since you'll get the same GSM support, 1900Mhz refarmed HSPA+ support (where available), and finally their LTE is gonna be on Band 4 only supported with AT&T model.

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I am currently an AT&T user, but with the LTE footprint that Verizon has i was thinking about switching to verizon...My question will the Verizon Model A1429 (CDMA model) work in Europe if LTE is not available?

That in fact is the only model (besides European) that does work in Europe, as well as Asia, and Australia on their LTE networks.

 

[chrmjenkins]

I am currently an AT&T user, but with the LTE footprint that Verizon has i was thinking about switching to verizon...My question will the Verizon Model A1429 (CDMA model) work in Europe if LTE is not available?

Yes, they still use all the same old good GSM standards they used to.

 

[Westyfield2]

Everything Everywhere are launching 4G in a few weeks but only in a handful of cities as test areas.

Plus, is this only on the new EE brand or can Orange and T-mobile customers benefit? The whole Everything Everywhere setup is becoming a little confusing!

Four cities – London, Bristol, Cardiff and Birmingham – are switched on today for the company’s engineers to begin live testing and systems integration, in readiness for the customer launch.

EE’s 4G network will cover a third of the UK population in 2012 – over 20 million people – and customers on the EE brand will also have access to the largest 3G network in the UK outside of the 4G cities. Further towns, cities and rural areas, will follow rapidly with 2013 population coverage to reach 70%, with 98% covered by 2014.

EE’s 2012 launch schedule will see 16 areas of the country connected to 4G by Christmas – the UK’s four capitals and twelve further major cities. The 16 cities are London, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Belfast, Birmingham, Bristol, Derby, Glasgow,
Hull, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Nottingham, Sheffield and Southampton.
http://everythingeverywhere.com/201...s-ee-a-new-company-a-new-network-a-new-brand/

Orange & T-Mobile today announced they will offer iPhone 5, the thinnest and lightest iPhone ever, to customers in UK beginning Friday, September 21. For more information please visit: www.orange.co.uk/iphone5 or www.t-mobile.co.uk/iphone5. For more information on iPhone 5, please visit: www.apple.com/iphone.

Orange and T-Mobile iPhone 5 customers will also be able to move to EE – to get superfast 4G – when it launches in the coming weeks. They can register their interest at www.ee.co.uk.

Those cities are perfect for me . Though that makes it sound that the EE 4G network will be a couple of weeks after iPhone 5 launch .

 

[RXPskier]

Yes, they still use all the same old good GSM standards they used to.

The CDMA model does?

 

[chrmjenkins]

The CDMA model does?

Yes, for international use all CDMA models of the iPhone have supported GSM networks.

 

[Dominicanyor]

GSM: Requires a SIM in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Better compatibility internationally)

CDMA: Doesn't have a SIM card in order for the phone to work on an cell network. (Restricted compatibilities (primarily in the US))

Thanks for the info.

 

[Mr Fusion]

Just my opinion, but that would be a silly reason to choose a carrier over. What do you need international LTE for that HSPA+ can't do?

Sorry I should have elaborated to mention I plan on moving outside the USA next year.

So if the CDMA version does everything the International GSM version does and more, why is there an International GSM version?

 

[chrmjenkins]

Sorry I should have elaborated to mention I plan on moving outside the USA next year.

So if the CDMA version does everything the International GSM version does and more, why is there an International GSM version?

Could be a lot of reasons (including variations in the hardware antennas), but the fact is that using those bands requires different power amplifiers. It may be the case that the PA part is more expensive for the CDMA model because of how much it supports. Sprint and Verizon don't use the same bands so that complicates the CDMA model.

 

[dontwalkhand]

Thanks for the info.

Except Verizon HAS SIM cards for LTE (and uses it for CDMA AUTHENTICATION) in this regard, it behaves exactly like GSM. (No SIM = No usage of your phone as a phone at all)

 

[elhungarian]

I'm guessing the LTE antenna is tweaked for European lte ie EE and DT. Which of course is not same as Verizon probably.

Sigh

 

[milan03]

Sorry I should have elaborated to mention I plan on moving outside the USA next year.

So if the CDMA version does everything the International GSM version does and more, why is there an International GSM version?

So that Apple saves their money on parts. Filters, PA's, Tuners etc... That's pretty much the only version available for users outside of North America.