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A couple of questions. I have my iTunes library on an external drive. Will that still work the same way?

Also, they seem to be vague with videos. I have a bunch of movies that I've ripped from DVD's over the years to make my library entirely digital. Are these still going to work with the Movies app and will I be able to stream them to the Apple TV like I do now?

Side note: I'm still confused as to why Apple is doing this. To me its like they are doing it for the sake of doing it and not to make things easier on the user. I don't see how having to sync with 3 separate apps is supposed to be better than just syncing with iTunes.
 
Can someone confirm if there is a way to remove or hide Apple Music or any Steaming service from the new iTunes. I never see myself as the streaming music at home kind of guy. At work sure, but still purchase lots of music from the iTunes store from various countries. It also bothers me that Apple keeps telling me to try Apple Music almost every day on my iPhone.
 
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You might be right in the end, but this is certainly not confirmed by the scant information in the article or the support document it references. It does not address home sharing at all. Will I still be able to share all 1.5 TB of Music, Movies and TV shows on my Mini with my Apple TV's, Macs and iPad? This is the main thing I use iTunes for, the Mini is an iTunes server that runs 24/7. And this is dead simple, just turn on home sharing in iTunes. Is this even possible with the new apps?

And the iOS TV app is horrible for accessing my shared library on my iPad. I have to quit/restart the TV app for it to even find the shared library. And it's a joke trying to find the movie I want from slowly updated alphabetical list of 600 titles in my library.

Have a read of the Apple TV forum buddy. A lot of your questions are answered! Home Sharing is located in the System Preferences under the 'Sharing' option.
Don't worry :)
 
Here's what it says about movies and tv shows:
Movies and TV shows that you purchased or rented from iTunes will be in the new Apple TV app.
Use the Apple TV app for Mac for future movie and TV purchases or rentals.


Currently, I have my movies ripped to a hard drive on my Mac. The movie files are added to my iTunes library. I like to play them on my networked Apple TV. It works very well as it currently is. I hope they are not removing from the new Apple TV app for Mac the ability to add one's own home movies or movie rips. If so, then I will have to use Plex or Infuse on the Apple TV. However, I like how well the "Computer" app works on the Apple TV for playing my video files.
It’s fine. Movies sit inside the Apple TV app on the computer. It’s streaming fine. The break away from “iTunes” is awesome once you run through. I also updated my phone and iPad to ios13 via the new options without iTunes and once more it’s a heaps better experience. I have around 2000 movies ripped to my hard drive and all is perfectly fine.
 
No one is asking the real questions here: How will I sync my 5gb 1st gen iPod over firewire without iTunes?

If you're not being sarcastic ;), then like any other device presumably, in the Finder for syncing, Music for Music, Podcasts for Podcasts, Books for Audiobooks... er simple... ish... kinda... !

Obviously you will need thunderbolt-to-firewire dongles if on a machine without a Firewire port (as most that support this will be).

Can someone confirm if there is a way to remove or hide Apple Music or any Steaming service from the new iTunes. I never see myself as the streaming music at home kind of guy. At work sure, but still purchase lots of music from the iTunes store from various countries. It also bothers me that Apple keeps telling me to try Apple Music almost every day on my iPhone.

You can actually address that on your iPhone, in Settings>Music>Show Apple Music (turn off). This also gets rid of the 'For You' tab.
 
Pretty slim "details".
So, we can sync or devices through the finder, whatever.
It says we can still manually manage our music but just how does that happen? Do the devices still show up in the Music app?

And another question. I don’t keep all my audio in iTunes. Frequently I plug into iTunes, create a playlist name on the device, then drag and drop audio directly from a finder folder into the playlist on the device. Will I still be able to do this?
 
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Here's what it says about movies and tv shows:
Movies and TV shows that you purchased or rented from iTunes will be in the new Apple TV app.
Use the Apple TV app for Mac for future movie and TV purchases or rentals.


Currently, I have my movies ripped to a hard drive on my Mac. The movie files are added to my iTunes library. I like to play them on my networked Apple TV. It works very well as it currently is. I hope they are not removing from the new Apple TV app for Mac the ability to add one's own home movies or movie rips. If so, then I will have to use Plex or Infuse on the Apple TV. However, I like how well the "Computer" app works on the Apple TV for playing my video files.

This essentially works the same. I have 100s of movies and tv. I had some confusion at first as I could not find Home Sharing. Home Sharing is located in System Preferences. Once Home Sharing is turned on, your 'Computer' will return for access on Apple TV. On Apple TV it all looks the same once connected.

Systems Preferences › Sharing › Media Sharing - Home Sharing.
 
One thing conspicuous by its absence in the support document is any mention of how home sharing is going to work once the iTunes split happens - I’ve got a lot of imported movies, tv shows and home video in my iTunes library and I use home sharing to stream these to my iPad and Apple TV... I’m going to be very unhappy if this functionality goes away in Catalina!

This essentially works the same. I have 100s of movies and tv. I had some confusion at first as I could not find Home Sharing. Home Sharing is located in System Preferences. Once Home Sharing is turned on, your 'Computer' will return for access on Apple TV. On Apple TV it all looks the same once connected.

Systems Preferences › Sharing › Media Sharing - Home Sharing.
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You might be right in the end, but this is certainly not confirmed by the scant information in the article or the support document it references. It does not address home sharing at all. Will I still be able to share all 1.5 TB of Music, Movies and TV shows on my Mini with my Apple TV's, Macs and iPad? This is the main thing I use iTunes for, the Mini is an iTunes server that runs 24/7. And this is dead simple, just turn on home sharing in iTunes. Is this even possible with the new apps?

And the iOS TV app is horrible for accessing my shared library on my iPad. I have to quit/restart the TV app for it to even find the shared library. And it's a joke trying to find the movie I want from slowly updated alphabetical list of 600 titles in my library.

This essentially works the same. I have 500+ movies and tv. I had some confusion at first as I could not find Home Sharing. Home Sharing is located in System Preferences. Once Home Sharing is turned on, your 'Computer' will return for access on Apple TV. On Apple TV it all looks the same once connected.

Systems Preferences › Sharing › Media Sharing - Home Sharing.
 
No one is asking the real questions here: How will I sync my 5gb 1st gen iPod over firewire without iTunes?

...or all of my shuffles, iPod Mini, and iPod Nano.
I still think this whole "break out" thing is silly. iTunes was one stop for many things, now it’s many separate apps.
As long as it runs on Catalina, it looks like iMazing, here I come!
 
What about Bitperfect and other audiophile apps which integrate with iTunes? Catalina seems like a mess which deletes support for 32 bit apps for no good reason. Can't imagine I will update to this and won't be buying any mac which has this pre-installed.
 
Thanks for answering about location of non-iTunes video, that's good to know. Still need to know about audiobooks and ringtones. I presume we can still choose where content lives, and they didn't pull an iBooks stunt and corrupt all the content?

Do we still have list view (for both music and videos), or only the dumbed-down, scroll forever, iPad-style views? Large libraries are a massive pain to manage without list view, and if it's gone, I'll probably maintain a mojave machine for syncing (at least until they kill that option off on the iOS side).

Other questions:

What about video playlists? Star Ratings? Watched/unwatched marks (which disappeared in the latest iOS release...grrr)? Last played date (which also disappeared when you finish watching a video on the latest iOS release)? Smart playlists? Rencoding music in higher-res formats (e.g. apple lossless in library to 256 on iOS devices)?

Does local sync work better/faster, or is the grey-circle bug (among others) still there?
 
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It should be noted that (at least as of now) the iTunes Store is hidden by default in the Music app. You have to select View > Show iTunes Store to see it in the sidebar. (This could also be because I'm an Apple Music subscriber.)
I'm not a subscriber and the iTunes Store was shown by default.
 
What about Bitperfect and other audiophile apps which integrate with iTunes? Catalina seems like a mess which deletes support for 32 bit apps for no good reason. Can't imagine I will update to this and won't be buying any mac which has this pre-installed.

32-bit apps are going away so they can leverage modern hardware - that particular transition has been telegraphed for two years, so if a developer hasn't recompiled the app yet it's probably dead software anyway - no excuses for not migrating. Those apps will have to be updated, assuming Apple's provided an API. Dougscripts I'm sure will break as well.
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I'm not a subscriber and the iTunes Store was shown by default.

Hopefully we can hide Apple Music by default if we're not a subscriber then!
 
They will do the same as with books - formerly integrated in iTunes. All of your local content will be moved to a hidden directory, all files wil become renamed and encoded to ease the database handling and upload to their servers for Music Match management.

So: Your old album "Yellow Submarine" will be stored in a folder like
(9as752'908zsdfg7z20'4958zw

as well as all tracks will look like:
01 09ds8'2345qoigh
02 aso93'8475w0e98rzt
03 1'203984asdfiu1(=9
and so on.

And it will be mandatory (and not editable), to store them in the hidden default folder.
Yes, I am joking, but who knows, they did it with all our Ebooks, when they transferred them to the new "Books"-App.
You can still edit song metadata just like in iTunes.
 
First world problem, I know but here goes...my Koehler shower system currently hooks right into my iTunes and plays music automatically as I shower. Will functionality like this be retained? I won’t upgrade to Catalina If this is in danger.

Haha that’s awesome.
 
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